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DR Afficionados, Assuming similar balance point and all else being equal, what say you: 23.5" (24) or 25.5"(26)? Thanks for your opinion. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | ||
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I would think a little extra barrel length is a good idea, given some of the low velocities I've seen reported for .600 NE ammo. | |||
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Paul, For a double rifle 24" max. Make the tubes it .800" at the muzzle and 14-1/4 pounds. You can get all the velocity needed in 24" tubes. BR | |||
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26" Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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The difference in velocity between the two is not worth mentioning. I would make the choice depending on how they balance overall with the rifle. With which does the rifle blance better? 465H&H | |||
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600 N.E. stopping caliber made for thick cover 24inch barrels. "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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I'd go with 24's looked good on most of the Jefferys, and a snap action underlever would be cool too. Ed DRSS Member | |||
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I like this thinking. But also, if a guy is about 6'0" or bit taller he might well put the 26" bbls to good use. I'm 6'2" and my 28" bbls don't seem ungainly to me at all. Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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The weight of 28" barrels on a 450-400 are very different than the same length in the 577/600 class gun Ken DRSS, PP Chapter Life NRA Life SCI Life DSC | |||
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Double rifle A.Francotte 600NE , 1926 , 24" barrels ! | |||
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!!!??? PICTURE???!!! !!!???VIDEO???!!! Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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Ken at KEBCO, I don't submit 28" for the 577 NE or 600 NE. Perhaps the 26'ers are worth a thought though...   Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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Hi Ken, Looking good so far for our get together tomorrow morning.  See you then but gotta be back in Livingston by noon  Paul NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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As one who has used the .600 both barrel lengths and not just talked about it, I go with the 26" the 24" Jeffrey underlever kicked a lot worse and had a lot more barrel rise than the Holland 26". Yes, the Jeff could have be restocked to fit better and that might have helped, but you don't mess with those old original heirlooms. Yes, but 2" in the jess I would never notice it. the Jeff was a hair lighter. I didn't like the balance of the light weight tubes on the Jeff. Just my experience. | |||
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Thanks everyone for your input. I'll handle a few double boomers tomorrow morning and decide. Jack, I'm just a bit shorter than you - at 5'5" so even your 450-400 might be ungainley on me. Of course, I never had a problem with my 26" or 28" barreled WBYs, so ... we'll see ... NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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I think it will be all in the "feel". Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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I am with SAfrican hunter. I prefer at least 26" barrels on a big bore [over 400] double. I thought the Jeffery 600 I handled felt "stubby". My 450 No2 has 28" barrels, and I would not want them any ashorter, the double handles perfectly. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Well, I shouldered and swung a few 600 Nitro doubles this morning - a 23.5" and two 24". Felt great and pointed naturally. Before actually having these in my hands, I was pretty sure that I wanted 26" barrels. I was very pleased with teh way the 24" felt in my hands. Again thanks for the opinions (five of you said 26" four said 24") Paul NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Paul, Let me know if you go back to Ken's. I want to check out a few 577s he has in stock....Biebs | |||
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You bet. I'll probably take a ride next week. I'll check with Ken for his availability and get back to you. Stay well and to all who have served, my deepest and most sincere appreciation. Paul NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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PS: Another vote for 26"...more classic look. | |||
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Well the 24" shouldered and swung mighty nice so will probably stay with that. Unless Ken let's me change my mind  NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Whatever feels best. Plus, a 600 NE probably weighs about 4 pounds per inch of barrel!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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Should I post photos of the double that is about to become mine or wait until it is in my hands? NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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IF it's a certainty to become yours I vote for you to get the pictures up without delay!  Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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If you've looked at the book on the 600 NE by Cal Pappas he's listed the barrel lengths of quite a few of the 600's he's examined. By my quick talley of what he's shown for barrel lengths. 1-33" 8-28" 1-27 3/4" 1-27" 1-26.5" 40-26" 2-25 1/2" 32-25" 1- 24 3/4" 59- 24" 1-22" NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Hi Mike, Thanks for the info. I ordered Cal's book last week and looking forward to the eye candy therein. Paul NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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You won't regret that. What a fantastic book. Eye candy is absolutely right! Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Let's try this again .. At the risk of incurring BigFiveJack's wrath if I decide on going with something else in the future  Here are some pictures of the "soon to be mine" Verney-Carron Azure Safari PH in 6oo Nitro Express with 24" barrels:      And because I have been bitten hard by this damn double bug and told my wife I was selling many of the guns in the safe to put towards the house, here is the other gem that will keep the 600 company in the near empty safe: Chapuis 9.3 x 74   Thanks and will get my own photos when they are home in my hands. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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CCMDoc...those .600 pics makes me very curious... What is the price of this rifle in the US...? | |||
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A 2--fer I love it! Those 24 look good on it! DRSS Member | |||
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Ken has 3 600s in stock....get in line!!!! | |||
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uhh, only 2 ... NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Best to contact Ken directly. He is Kebco here on AR and his website is Kebco LLC Good luck, Paul NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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 I hope that you have an endlessly great time as a 600 NE double rifle owner! It looks really, really nice. The 24's look good in the pictures. I look forward to your reports on what the chrono readings are. The reloading details will draw my full attention too. Can you please remind me of the weight? The 9.3 MM rifle looks to have a clearly longer LOP. Is that correct? Congratulations ten times over! Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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Dr Paul, I believe Ken also offers the 600NE with the optional wheel kit !!!! | |||
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Actually, I bought SAFARIKID's arms and shoulders on Ebay and am having them grafted on early next week. Trying to find shirts that fit ... well THAT's the real problem now. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Thanks Jack - reloading data and 35P chrono results in the near future. I think you, Biebs and I should take a ride to just north of Ellenville, NY this summer with toys in tow. I'll bring the skeet thrower and the Beretta Xplor A400 along with the doubles and 600 OK. You bring the icepaks and slings. Biebs can bring some deadly charging mellons for targets. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Sounds great! I guess I'll have to start drinking milk again to build up a supply of jugs. I wonder how a single malt scotch & milk combo would taste????? | |||
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Is that to build courage before shooting or for the pain management afterwards Biebs?  Or both? NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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