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I'd like you experts to please give me your opinion of this rifle. Thanks http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100378866 | ||
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Nice looking gun. These old guns if not monkeyed with are great. I have a similar 450-400 and its made like they should be. The price seems high to me for an Army Navy unless its all original and in perfect shape. | |||
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Nice curb appeal. Even if the bores are great it's over priced! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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It is a nice rifle. By the way, the University of Glasgow has the Army & Navy records and will do a serial number search for free and send a pdf of the records page. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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I have the sister to that gun in 450 3 1/4. Same Webley A&W C action, considered by many the best boxlock action from the time. Mine does not have ejectors. I paid less than that and I believe this rifle has either been listed for awhile now or listed before.    ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Beautiful rifle but way over priced. Jim: How can you show your rifle in public and still hold your head up? That's why I keep mien locked in a safe so they are hidden from view. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Nice looking rifle. Good luck. Chris DRSS | |||
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Besides the extra amount of engraving on that Army & Navy double, the teardrops on the gunstock, and the raised bolster area on the rear of the handguard, indicate that this is a deluxe version of an Army & Navy. Wm Evans Deluxe doubles had the same features. That is one nice double rifle. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I kept my head down while typing. I've also learned if I tell everyone it's Joyce's they feel sorry for her and don't say anything.  ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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I seen Frostbit's rifle in person and the engraving on it would put pretty much any modern engraved firearm to shame. It is a true work of art. My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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For actual shooting/hunting use, I would take a Webley built double rifle [ie. a Army & Navy, Evans, Gibbs, London Sporting Park, etc.] or a Jefferies/Leonard built double, over a H&H, or a Westley Richards any day. IMHO of course.  Frostbit, your rifle is most excellent as well.  Especially since it is a 450 3 1/4". DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I have a fondness for the Army-Navy rifles of that period. However, I too believe it is overpriced. The bores are only good to very good. I didn't know rifling could stand tall as it is only so many thousandths deep. This rifle is more in line with Champlin's Manton 470 that George has at around $25k but with excellent bores. And truth be known George would probably part with his for $24k. Dutch | |||
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Also second N E 450 No2's assessment. Dutch | |||
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That is a lovely rifle. Somehow Roger Bain rings a bell strongly. I may know him through a very good friend. Would you like me to see if the Roger Bain, Inc. selling the rifle is related to the Roger Bain friend of a really good friend? Frostbit, Joyce's rifle is also lovely! JPK  Free 500grains | |||
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+1 Very nice rifle though. You can always offer lower. I'm sure you've heard "no" before. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Jim is correct that it has been listed for a while. It's likely worth at least 3-4k less than the advertised price, but that's my 2 cents. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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