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I just picked up this little double and got it all cleaned up. Bores look great after brass brushing, Hoppes, and about 75 patches. Frank Beller just sent me some of his loads to try. This one is regulated with the 270gr 40 Cordite Max load. It should get about 2,000 fps with a 270gr bullet....plenty for hogs, deer, elk, bear, and moose, as well as plains game. | ||
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Great! What are you asking for it? On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Hell, I just got the box open! :-) | |||
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Beautiful rifle! | |||
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Jon: Hell, you know you can't own such an assult rifle in Jersey! Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Cal, it's getting that way, it seems. But I think it will take them a while to get down to a 2-banger :-) | |||
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Looks good to me. Hopefully your 75 patches didn't wear the rifling out | |||
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No, looks strong and shiny now. | |||
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Good one Jon! Who was the actual maker? Looks like Osborne or Hollis style. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Bentley Playfair made the rifle in 1909, shortly before becoming part of Issac Hollis. | |||
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Thats a great looking rifle, Biebs! I handled a VC 375 Flanged at SCI this past year and it was a sweet feeling rifle. Whats the Bentley weight? | |||
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Brandon, this one is a tad over 10 lbs with the 26" barrels. | |||
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This gun should be very easy to shoot & accurate,10 lbs will suck up any recoil. DRSS | |||
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Wonderful rifle. Which scope will you be mounting, the 12-20x60mm or the bigger one? . | |||
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All I want to know, Jon, is when you put this rifle up for sale, will you "play fair?" Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Cal made a funny!!!!!!! | |||
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Hopefully it is well regulated. Please post pics of targets if you would. | |||
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Do Bentley owners play fair? | |||
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What a beauty! | |||
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Very nice piece Jon. Congrats and looking forward to a shooting report Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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Thanks Morten! Ammo is on the way. | |||
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Morten, Notice that very nice splinter fore-end! | |||
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Todd, Bentley Playfair merged with I Hollis, who later became BLASER! :-) | |||
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Great rifle and shotgun maker. Sold a couple of their shotguns over the years. First high quality double rifle I’ve seen from Pentley & Faiyfair. Good pic-up Jon. Hope you hunt it. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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Mike, I'll be Bwana Whitetail! | |||
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I really don’t know much about the cartridge, was it the parent for the full size cartridge? Steve Barnett has a great .375 flanged 2.5” Holland and Holland dominion for $14K. | |||
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Can you please post photos of the ammo. Is it a rimmed version (similar to) of 9.5X57 MS? I guess I need to check Barne's Cartridges of the World again
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Yes, I don't have them yet, but they are rimmed. I believe they lengthened the 303 British case in their design. | |||
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Cases are easily formed from 405 Winchester, they'll need to be trimmed a bit after forming. You may have to thin the rims depending on how deep the chamber is cut. I have a set of RCBS dies but I think CH4d also has them. Great lines on that rifle BTW. Best. | |||
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Biebs; Are you aware that the 2.5 inch .375 cartridge has two quite different proofing loads. 270 g load and the 320 g load. Rifles that are only proofed for the 270 loads are not considered by most to be of suitable strength to fire the 320 g service loads which have 2 to 3 tons greater chamber pressure--until the rifle is reproofed for the heaver bullets. The proofing stamp on the flats will clearly show which load the rifle is proofed. | |||
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Yes, similar to the 577 rifles, with the 650gr "Jungle" load vs the 750gr full-house load. This one is marked "270 40 Cordite Max" on the flats. | |||
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Dear Todd, Yes , I noticed the splinter.. I am just waiting to see yours on the VC Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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Todd, small world ? Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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Thoughts on rechambering to 375 Flanged Magnum? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Boomie, that would considerably up the pressures, and JJ told me that most conversions he's seen have ended up a mess. | |||
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I hope that the OP doesn't consider mucking about with his rifle by reaming it out to the more powerful .375 H & H version of the .375 H & H Belted Magnum round. As others say I think that you'd wreck a fine pig rifle. Enjoy it for what it is. If the OP wants a rifle chambered in the more powerful .375 H & H chambering he'd be better advised to sell what he has and use the proceeds to buy such. | |||
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Not even a consideration. | |||
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The 375 2 1/2 and 375 HH Flanged Magnum are both rimmed cases. The 375 Flanged Magnum is longer, I think a smaller rim, but still Flanged, slight shoulder, and fires a 300 grain bullet at 2400 FPS from 26 inch barrels. This is about 3,800 fpe. It is a 2.85 inch case. It is the rimmed counterpart to the 375 HH Belted Rimless Mangum. Having shot a 375 Flanged Magnum in 9 pund rifle, I can tell you it recoils like a 20 gauge Mr. Biebs has provided the info for the 375 2 1/2. That load of 270 grain bullet at 2000 fps must be a pleasure on the shoulder from a well balanced double rifle. When you see a reference to a 375Flanged that is not a Flanged Magnum it is a reference to the 375 2 1/2cased Flanged Mr. Biebs has provided us subject to the two proof loads shared by Mr. Biebs and the Mr. Transvaal. We know Mr. Biebs will sale this rifle because he likes weird plastic, continental girls with strange extra appendages. Cough Blaser, Cough. These medium doubles are starting to grow on me. Thank you for sharing the rifle with us. | |||
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