This is a project that we started a couple of years ago. I revived the project several months ago. We are making good progress, don't you think? All parts have been standardized. The "Mother Gun" was handmade in 1902 creating the necessity to re-engineer all of the parts from the originals so that parts will be interchangeable, so to speak. We still have some work to do, but I wanted to share the progress to date. The "Mother Gun" is chambered in .450 Nitro Express. Based on the frame size, when available, we will offer the rifle in .450 NE, .470 NE and .500 NE. Pricing has not been set, but we are taking indications of interest...













The "Mother Gun."

What is there to say other than WOW. It's a wonderful thing to see the Rigby name back in action....and where it belongs

So the Bissell or Rising Bite action is supposed to be the strongest of "breaking" double rifles. What does that translate into as far as being able to run higher pressures?
It seems quite the feat of engineering.

Interesting. Believe that Butch Searcy's rising bite action has a back action rather than a bar action sidelock.

Fundi can comment on the differences/strengh of the rising bite versus the screw grip; and of the back action (which H&H uses for all its double rifles) versus the bar action. I'm not sure Rigby could retain its classic dipped lock profile with a back action sidelock...

Regards

Unless I'm mistaken I held the "mother gun" last week at it's owners house...........NICE GUN!!!!!

Brett

Fundi can comment on the differences/strengh of the rising bite versus the screw grip; and of the back action (which H&H uses for all its double rifles) versus the bar action.....



Is their that much point of discussing the differences/strengh of the rising bite versus the screw grip ?

It's all been written up before, either on AR or in the various bibles - doublegun journal being one and a fair bit is on the net.

Two completely different guns by different makers.

If you wanted a Rigby Double using the RBRTB,
you ordered it (until they were no longer made). If you wanted a Screw Grip, you ordered that.


The Differences between the Bar and back action are also well known - Hallowell has some good pictures for a start.

Brett

I would like to handled the original gun,
it looks superb.

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If this is the English version of the Rigby, I gatta ask, have you guys actually produced a double rifle yet or just drawings?

There is only one version of Rigby. We will have a Doll's Head Box Lock in the white at the shows this year, along with bolt rifles. As I said in my original post, this is far as we have gotten to date with the Rising Bite project, but I thought we were far enough along to share this.

Kent

I am glad you did share it, it is wonderful
to see it coming along and hopefully as it is
produced, you will add more photos.

Thanks again.

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Originally posted by boom stick:
So the Bissell or Rising Bite action is supposed to be the strongest of "breaking" double rifles. .

Nope!. The backaction rifle with jones underlever is the strongest...and then the Webley Longbar.
Jack Lott does a rundown on 4 actiontypes in GunDigest 1985. Read it!.

The problem with information from the internet is it is hard to verify their authenticity"-- abraham lincoln.

Well I learned something new today. Thank you.

So the strongest double is the double falling block like the one Bailey Bradshaw makes right?

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Originally posted by boom stick:
So the strongest double is the double falling block like the one Bailey Bradshaw makes right?

Boomstick

Stick to the mainstream Double Rifle actions - which Searcy's falling block is not one of.


"The problem with information from the internet is it is hard to verify their authenticity"


And as for the above, have you ever heard of cross referencing, checking one bit of info against the other from another couple of sources or looking at who actually said it and
what cred they have on the subject ??????

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I was poking fun at myself for believing something I read not anyone here. I reserve poking fun to myself and those who know I'm joking. I do not know a lot about double rifles compared to most here but the subject I find fascinating and love to learn. I will do better at cross checking and asking more. These doubles are amazing pieces of machinery and art. I grew up in a machine shop so I know a bit about what goes into creating something as amazing as a double and appreciate it immensely. Now back to the topic at hand I wish Rigby great success for such a namesake action. Some of the loveliest rifles I have held were Rigby.

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So the strongest double is the double falling block like the one Bailey Bradshaw makes right?

Boom stick

If as you say you are poking fun at yourself, then use
emotions so we know it is humour

"So the strongest double is the double falling block like the one Bailey Bradshaw makes right?

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Originally posted by 505G:

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So the strongest double is the double falling block like the one Bailey Bradshaw makes right?

Boom stick

If as you say you are poking fun at yourself, then use
emotions so we know it is humour

"So the strongest double is the double falling block like the one Bailey Bradshaw makes right?

I would bet a considerable amount--that joke or not -that in fact baileys design is by far the strongest, and it is indisputably a double rifle

As to strength of doubles I was assuming that the double falling block would be the strongest. No that was not a joke but an assumption. So my question is what is the strongest action for a double?

Boom Stick:
I always thought the strongest action was the old Jones under lever. But, I don't know much about modern offerings.
Cal

I sm SURE somebody will correct me..if I'm wrong, but the current Paul Dumas designed Verney-Carron action is the strongest...

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Originally posted by jens poulsen:

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
So the Bissell or Rising Bite action is supposed to be the strongest of "breaking" double rifles. .

Nope!. The backaction rifle with jones underlever is the strongest...and then the Webley Longbar.

Jack Lott does a rundown on 4 actiontypes in GunDigest 1985. Read it!.

Jens:

I think you are incorrect. By far and sway THE strongest BREAKING action is the Blaser tilting lock block action. It simply cannot come "off face."

I've always heard the Jones Underlever is the strongest. Bailey's is probably stronger but it isn't a traditional break action.

Dave, that Blaser isn't even worth mentioning in the same breath as true double rifles.

And to mention Blaser in a thread about a Rigby Rising Bite rifle ... bordering on heresy!

quote:

Originally posted by Todd Williams:
I've always heard the Jones Underlever is the strongest. Bailey's is probably stronger but it isn't a traditional break action.

Dave, that Blaser isn't even worth mentioning in the same breath as true double rifles.

And to mention Blaser in a thread about a Rigby Rising Bite rifle ... bordering on heresy!

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

And to mention Blaser in a thread about a Rigby Rising Bite rifle ... bordering on heresy!

:

I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. I loved my S2 and I think my R93 is the best takedown rifle on the market. I would love to have an R95 single shot in 9,3X74R.

However, bear in mind that to the best of my knowledge, the only "Rigby Rising Bite" currently in production is being made by a buy a guy named Butch Searcy in California. While I might be wrong, John Rigby & Sons has yet to produce anything but pictures of rifles and if they do eventually produce one, I can pretty much guarantee that it's going to out of our price range.

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I can pretty much guarantee that it's going to out of our price range.

And the market is probably not your segment
of the market anyway.

Same as H&H, Purdey, Boss aren't.

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Originally posted by 505G:

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I can pretty much guarantee that it's going to out of our price range.

And the market is probably not your segment
of the market anyway.

Same as H&H, Purdey, Boss aren't.

That's correct and If you have the the change for a Purdey, I say you are a lucky guy. Go for it my friend.

I don't but many others do. Was talking to
someone yesterday and he and others have ordered new guns from H&H, Purdey et al.

Why not second hand ?

Because the prices of second hand guns
exactly the same are higher in the US
than buying new guns !!!

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Originally posted by Dave Bush:

Jens:

I think you are incorrect. By far and sway THE strongest BREAKING action is the Blaser tilting lock block action. It simple cannot come "off face."

I didn´t know that. What´s the principle construction for the Blaser?.

Jens:

In and ordinary double rifle, when you fire the gun the forces of combustion push the barrels away from from the breach face. Not so with a Blaser. When you shut the Blaser, the barrels lock into a mortise and when fired, the combustion pushes the mortise back against the action.

Here is a link that shows the S2 action and explains it all.

http://africanxmag.com/the_blaser_s2_safari.htm

Thanks Dave!.

Interesting. I did know Gunmakers in Ferlach have build doublerifles for .378Weatherby for full factoryloads on their specialized(look & construction) kipplauf(break barrel) actions.
To be quit frank I haven´t given the Blaser S2 a sligtest thought/consideration.
Thanks for info.

A Merry Christmas.

J.

Jens:

If you look at a Blaser S2 bear this in mind. Blaser double rifle sales have never been really strong. They are just not traditional. See Todd Williams response above. Rumor has it that Blaser is about to discontinue the S2.

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Originally posted by jens poulsen:

To be quit frank I haven´t given the Blaser S2 a sligtest thought/consideration.

A wise policy. A wise policy!!

craftsmanship at its finest!!

quote:

Originally posted by jens poulsen:

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
So the Bissell or Rising Bite action is supposed to be the strongest of "breaking" double rifles. .

Nope!. The backaction rifle with jones underlever is the strongest...and then the Webley Longbar.
Jack Lott does a rundown on 4 actiontypes in GunDigest 1985. Read it!.

Absolutely!! The Jones underlever in either a back action or a bar action are the stongest.

quote:

Originally posted by Dave Bush:

However, bear in mind that to the best of my knowledge, the only "Rigby Rising Bite" currently in production is being made by a buy a guy named Butch Searcy in California.

Not quite. Max Ern has been making Rising Bite double rifles in Europe for a long time. Butch Searcy started making his rifles more recently.

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Originally posted by mehulkamdar:

Not quite. Max Ern has been making Rising Bite double rifles in Europe for a long time. Butch Searcy started making his rifles more recently.

Danke schön Mehul.

Alles klar..alles in ordnung