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My Searcy 500NE range report-Shootaway saves the day!
22 February 2014, 03:38
AK_StickMy Searcy 500NE range report-Shootaway saves the day!
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
quote:
Originally posted by AK_Stick:
must be because you're loading a standard caliber, with a metric press.
I have a Rockchucker-its not metric.
Yes, but you purchased it in Canada, so its obviously the metric press they make.
Its a well documented problem. Like using standard sockets on a metric bolt, sometimes you'll get the nut off, but it won't quite be straight in the bore of the socket.
If you'd purchased 9.3x74R or similar metric based rifle you'd have no problems.
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22 February 2014, 03:39
shootawayYou are wrong again.I bought it from Sinclair in the 90's.
22 February 2014, 03:40
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22 February 2014, 03:42
AK_StickWell the results speak for themselves, you've obviously gotten yourself a metric press.
If you buy a standard press, your bullets would come out concentric to the bore, and with the bases perfectly perpendicular to the cartridge base. That away as long as your rifle is on face, everything would be perfect.
Your rifle is on face isn't it?
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22 February 2014, 03:49
shootawayThere are plenty of factors that can attribute to a lack of concentricity besides the press,IMO.
22 February 2014, 03:54
AK_StickNot unless you're claiming that the maker of the best double rifle on the planet Mr Searcy made a mistake with the gun, and cut the chambers wrong, or your rifle is off face, both of which I'd be very sorry to hear, the fault simply must be in your press.
The bullets will only go in with the sides parallel to the case mouth walls, so unless you're deforming the cases, it simply has to be the slight difference in sizes between your metric press, and the standard ammunition.
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22 February 2014, 03:57
shootawayIt probably is the press.Metric???? I said I bought it from the US.
22 February 2014, 03:58
jwmIt's not the press...it's the metric powder that we use up here that causes the problems.
22 February 2014, 04:00
AK_StickThey sell both, it could easily have been the wrong one, and the guy packing it just made a mistake.
Or perhaps when they shipped the dies to you, seeing that you're in Canada, they sent you dies for a metric press.
Quite obviously, the problem isn't with you. They set you up to fail.
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22 February 2014, 04:02
jwmI am reminded of the old "Far Side" cartoon...the episode where the cat has followed the "Kat Fud" signs scrawled on the walls and floors, and is now standing in front of the open clothes dryer, with the last sign pointing inside. The dog is hiding in the corner, and the thought bubble above his head is saying "Oh, please...oh, please..."
22 February 2014, 04:02
shootawayAnything is possible.
22 February 2014, 04:05
DoubleDonSorry, can't look away from a train wreck!
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22 February 2014, 04:08
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Sorry, can't look away from a train wreck!
Look at this you jerk.
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22 February 2014, 04:11
DoubleDonFrom 10 yards?
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22 February 2014, 04:13
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by DoubleDon:
From 10 yards?
10 yds???? 50 long yards in the fog.
22 February 2014, 04:19
DoubleDonquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DoubleDon:
From 10 yards?
10 yds???? 50 long yards in the fog.[/QUOT
Yeah, dream on special needs dude
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Don
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22 February 2014, 04:23
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by DoubleDon:
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DoubleDon:
From 10 yards?
10 yds???? 50 long yards in the fog.[/QUOT
Yeah, dream on special needs dude
I bet you never shot like that even in your dreams fakester Don.
22 February 2014, 04:38
DoubleDonGotta love this one. Shitshisshorts with hands clasped like he has a load.
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1411043/m/3821049691?r=5581090791#5581090791
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Don
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22 February 2014, 04:38
460 wby shooterAll I can is WOW!!!
22 February 2014, 04:40
AK_Stickquote:
Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Gotta love this one. Shitshisshorts with hands clasped like he has a load. Tony looks not too happy and Chris with a big grin. Shootaway is a total dork as we all know. He is what he is!
Well now that he knows about his defective press, I suspect he'll quickly be showing you up good sir.
Now to watch all of you big meanies eat your words
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22 February 2014, 04:42
Frostbit22 February 2014, 04:42
jorgequote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
quote:
Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Sorry, can't look away from a train wreck!
Look at this you jerk.
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When you get them like this, get back to us...
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22 February 2014, 04:42
DoubleDonquote:
Originally posted by AK_Stick:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Gotta love this one. Shitshisshorts with hands clasped like he has a load.
http://forums.accuratereloadin...581090791#5581090791Tony looks not too happy and Chris with a big grin. Shootaway is a total dork as we all know. He is what he is!
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Don
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22 February 2014, 04:54
Todd WilliamsI guess the really good news here is that there is NO CHANCE in hell this cat will ever reproduce!
22 February 2014, 05:00
DoubleDonquote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
I guess the really good news here is that there is NO CHANCE in hell this cat will ever reproduce!
I hear ya. The Lord works in mysterious ways
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Don
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22 February 2014, 05:45
BayouBobAnother few years and maybe he can figure out how those trade show hanging name badges work.
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22 February 2014, 05:53
MJinesquote:
Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Tony looks not too happy and Chris with a big grin.
. . . and Ralf has the biggest smile since he is not Butch.
Mike
22 February 2014, 06:30
465H&HGod! Do I feel sorry for Butch. It is only a matter of time until he starts blaming Butch for his own ineptitude.
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22 February 2014, 06:51
boom stickIt is not Butch but a lose screw at the end of the trigger.
22 February 2014, 08:50
RIPquote:
Originally posted by BayouBob:
Another few years and maybe he can figure out how those trade show hanging name badges work.
Nah ... impossible.
22 February 2014, 09:50
surestrike
Searcy .470 NE 106gr IMR 4831, 500gr WLSP. Shot from a standing rest at 50 yards. Two on the right two on the left.
Bore was dirty and copper fouled. Maybe shootacow can explain what went wrong here?
22 February 2014, 10:04
Mike Brooksquote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
I guess the really good news here is that there is NO CHANCE in hell this cat will ever reproduce!
It would probably look worse that this poor guy.
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22 February 2014, 12:40
Matt Moorequote:
Originally posted by Mike Brooks:
quote:
Originally posted by Todd Williams:
I guess the really good news here is that there is NO CHANCE in hell this cat will ever reproduce!
It would probably look worse that this poor guy.
Put a sombrero on George and the lineage will be proven. Gollum with a metric press!
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22 February 2014, 12:41
Matt MooreGo on, call it your precious. You know you want to George.
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22 February 2014, 13:45
Sean Russellquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
It looks like it worked.It was foggy and raining and the sight picture was not as good as yesterday.I knew I had the best rifle.
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Not bad for a 10 yard target-----------
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22 February 2014, 21:37
209jonesWht gun did you use there Shootaway? look like small holes for a 500.
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23 February 2014, 03:48
Frostbitquote:
Originally posted by npd345:
I wanna be sure I am reloading correctly here in the good old USA;
I am loading for a 22/6mm Ackley Improved. So I have a metric case and standard bullet.
Should I use a metric press for resizing, since it a metric designated case and the standard press for seating the bullet.....since I am in the USA....but if in Canada....would I use the metric press to seat the bullet and a standard press to resize?
George can you help me with this I don't think these other guys have a clue....
quote:
Originally posted by AK_Stick:
Well the results speak for themselves, you've obviously gotten yourself a metric press.
If you buy a standard press, your bullets would come out concentric to the bore, and with the bases perfectly perpendicular to the cartridge base. That away as long as your rifle is on face, everything would be perfect.
Your rifle is on face isn't it?
I read somewhere, I'll try and find the link, that if you have thermometers in your house that read in C. you need to load with the metric press regardless of caliber.
23 February 2014, 04:03
surestrikequote:
I read somewhere, I'll try and find the link, that if you have thermometers in your house that read in C. you need to load with the metric press regardless of caliber.
That is actually only partially correct. if your thermometer reads in AND your speed limit signs are in KPH you DEFINITELY need the metric press or at least a metric calibration performed on that press.
Also and especially on your seating die if you are using a metric die with a standard caliber you can get isometric centering variation in the Y axis of the chamber to bullet center unless you switch to metric conforming bullets.
For instance a .510" diameter bullet will need to be isogonically reset to match a 12.954MM metric reset die you mix that with the thread variation in the seating body of a standard vs metric press and you've got some very serious isogonic variation issues. NOT something you want to fool around with.
Lets not even get into standard vs metric case trimming that s a whole other ball of wax!
23 February 2014, 04:50
npd345I am screwed then!! Our thermometer has a F scale on one side and C scale on the other!!
quote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
quote:
Originally posted by npd345:
I wanna be sure I am reloading correctly here in the good old USA;
I am loading for a 22/6mm Ackley Improved. So I have a metric case and standard bullet.
Should I use a metric press for resizing, since it a metric designated case and the standard press for seating the bullet.....since I am in the USA....but if in Canada....would I use the metric press to seat the bullet and a standard press to resize?
George can you help me with this I don't think these other guys have a clue....
quote:
Originally posted by AK_Stick:
Well the results speak for themselves, you've obviously gotten yourself a metric press.
If you buy a standard press, your bullets would come out concentric to the bore, and with the bases perfectly perpendicular to the cartridge base. That away as long as your rifle is on face, everything would be perfect.
Your rifle is on face isn't it?
I read somewhere, I'll try and find the link, that if you have thermometers in your house that read in C. you need to load with the metric press regardless of caliber.
23 February 2014, 04:56
shootawayI cleaned the bores this morning and noticed there was barely any fouling.There was nothing that the wipe-out could not easily remove.I am glad the rifle is shooting because now I can put it away and let my body and mind heal and rest from the recoil of the 500.
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