From JJ Perodeau's web site, Chapuis is going to offer .22 Hornet doubles. That would be an interesting plinker.

I think Robert Peterson (of Peterson Publishing) had an English 22 hornet.

I always thought the 22 Hornet looked like a super srucken 450/400.

Someone is going to have to buy one of these and get a few groundhogs to charge. I would name the DVD of such an adventure "Stung to Death!"

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Originally posted by 7kongoni:
From JJ Perodeau's web site, Chapuis is going to offer .22 Hornet doubles. That would be an interesting plinker.

If they do it right and make it seriously petite that would be cool!

There was a falling block 22 Hornet build thread here on AR a few years ago, including Damascus steel for the action

Would they make a set of barrels to interchange with for my 4-bore?
Cal

I could really get interested in putting together the cash for a well built .22 Hornet double.

What a waste of steel and walnut; any DR less than 7mm is useless and even those are suspect.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
What a waste of steel and walnut; any DR less than 7mm is useless and even those are suspect.

WOH, WOH, WOH.....don't go bringing reason and logic into any of our gun buying decisions!

Tempting.

Dave

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Originally posted by McKay:

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Originally posted by dpcd:
What a waste of steel and walnut; any DR less than 7mm is useless and even those are suspect.

WOH, WOH, WOH.....don't go bringing reason and logic into any of our gun buying decisions!

True 'dat!!

dpcd has obviously never had to face down an angry or wounded Montana ground squirrel that's intent on your death. First .22 Hornet barrel with a solid to break bone structures and anchor the gopher, second with a soft point to finish him off...if you're lucky.

A 22 hornet double could be a great flinch removing tool.

Was talking to an AR member yesterday about his deer hunt last weekend; he used a 700 NE on a 6 point whitetail.
Overkill?
No such thing.
Underkill; very common.

I have killed white tails with calibers ranging from .22 Hornet to .458 Win. Mag., WHO CARES.

Smaller caliber doubles, .22 Hornet/.25-20/.32-20/,30-30/.30-40 Krag/.38-55 all would have their place, especially in America. JMO.

Perhaps; but given the demand level for double rifles, and the calibers typically bought and used, I say that the realistic demand for such things is just above zero.
Of course those small calibers might be useful but no one is going to spend $6k and up on a plinker of a double rifle.
Ok, there is one guy out there.

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Would they make a set of barrels to interchange with for my 4-bore?
Cal

The only problem would be that the barrels would be an inch and a half apart!

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Of course those small calibers might be useful but no one is going to spend $6k and up on a plinker of a double rifle.

I spent a bit less than that for a set of 25-20 barrels for my son's 410 SxS, so there is at least some market. My thoughts were that it is cheaper than a dedicated rifle, same length of pull and trigger feel as the 410, and a natural way to transition from point shooting a shotgun to using a DR in terms of muscle memory, all with zero recoil and blast, all while using a caliber with actual utility for small game. Not cheap but hopefully something we can use well in the coming years and that my kids can use with theirs eventually down the road.

I love big bore doubles, but this one will see a LOT more days afield.

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Perhaps; but given the demand level for double rifles, and the calibers typically bought and used, I say that the realistic demand for such things is just above zero.
Of course those small calibers might be useful but no one is going to spend $6k and up on a plinker of a double rifle.
Ok, there is one guy out there.

There might not be a demand, but I have serious doubts that any gunsmith that can build such rifles are going to turn down the job of building one!

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Originally posted by dpcd:
What a waste of steel and walnut; any DR less than 7mm is useless and even those are suspect.

As some may think the above quote is not a double rifle snob, but a caliber snob!

ANY double rifle is worth owning if a person loves double rifles!

A person I know, who posts on AR has a .22 LR double rifle with a set of 410 barrels all in a fitted case with all the specialized tools for it's maintenance. I tried to buy it from him, and was told he would sell all his firearms before he sold that little jewel.

I have thought of building a double rifle drilling with the rifle barrels chambered for my wildcat cartridge (6mm coyote) a 256 Win mag case necked down to .243 bore, with the shot barrel for 3in 410 shotgun. This is a perfect set up for calling coyotes, bobcats and turkeys.

There is not a chambering that is a waste of time or money to own in a double rifle or drilling In my opinion! ..................................................However that is just my opinion, and not a mandate for anyone else to follow!
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CSMC built/builds a .22 cal double, but I can’t remember which .22 version. Last I saw one, it went for a pretty penny.

The Hornet is a better option than the rimfire. Ammunition consistency can vary greatly in the rimfire.

Yes, I am definitely a caliber snob. Read too much Elmer in my youth and it stuck.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Yes, I am definitely a caliber snob. Read too much Elmer in my youth and it stuck.

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I get your meaning! He influenced me as well, but in my case any well made double rifle is worth twenty of any single barreled rifle.
I also love big bore rifles, bolt single shot and doubles, but I also love the little .22 rifles as well, and would dearly love to have a quality made .22 lr double rifle.

During WWII I supplied meat during food rationing for four families who all moved on my grand fathers ranch in the hill country of Texas while all the men were over seas fighting WWII. All with a .22 single shot, and a 410 shotgun. The little .22 killed a lot of white tail deer over about four years with well placed head shots, and the little 410 shotgun supplied a lot of birds and squirrels for the table. .22 and 410 shot ammo was about all you could get because the ammo makers were set up to supply the war effort with ammo.

My youngest son still has that little Winchester .22 single shot which I cut down to fit him when he was six yrs old. He is 54 yrs old today and 6ft 3in tall today and can't
shoot that little rifle but it is in his gun
vault none the less!
Never short the man who understands how to properly use a .22 rifle!
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I would think a 30-30 would cover more ground as a lite rifle.

Rimfire double guns and drillings:

http://www.hoferwaffen.com/hofer_1.php?lang=en

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Perhaps; but given the demand level for double rifles, and the calibers typically bought and used, I say that the realistic demand for such things is just above zero.
Of course those small calibers might be useful but no one is going to spend $6k and up on a plinker of a double rifle.
Ok, there is one guy out there.

LOL

I think that rifle would be a lot of fun. Have also considered a .30-30 and even better a double in .303 British, but don't know of anyone making one. Would be a good cartridge for a double though.

JJ will have a 22 Hornet for display at the Dallas SC. It is a prototype that sold before it was completed but the owner is loaning it for display.

A double in 7x30 Waters would be nice for whitetail and PG.

My mom is in a long term hospital stay so JJ and family delivered my new Chapuis 20 bore SXS to my home--it's really nice. I asked him how much interest there was in the new 22 Hornet double. He has orders for 4 or 5 so far so there are some of us who will buy an expensive "jackrabbit rifle" as he defined it. I will not be a buyer but I am looking forward to the fondling.

Ok, I admit I was wrong about the demand being a quantity of one.
Just proves that there are more people with more money than sense than I anticipated.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
Ok, I admit I was wrong about the demand being a quantity of one.
Just proves that there are more people with more money than sense than I anticipated.

It has been my experience that people with money attained it due to their insight and smartness (with the exception of those who inherited it) as well as common sense; and that they have a unique ability to determine value today and value in the future as opposed to the value expectations of the common man.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
I think that rifle would be a lot of fun. Have also considered a .30-30 and even better a double in .303 British, but don't know of anyone making one. Would be a good cartridge for a double though.

Come see me in Dallas or SCI. I have several new made 303's

In years past I have had a number of older smaller doubles pass through my hands, 6.5x57, 25-35, 22 Savage. A even a SXS combination garden gun in 22lr x smooth bore 9mm rimfire. In smaller than 30cal cartridges the 7x57R seems to be the most popular but.... I also keep thinking of having a new made sub caliber put together.

I see nothing wrong with a .22 Hornet double rifle. In fact, here is a gorgeous Francotte DR in that caliber that was sold by Westley Richards back in 2004. It didn't take much time for it to attain the price of $30k or thereabouts. I was not the purchaser nor the seller. I just know what I saw in the listing.





























I am a big fan of smaller bore DRs and have quite a few .303s and even a .240 Fl. Mag. H&H Royal Deluxe!

Curl

Ken,

How can I find you at DSC?

VERY nice Roscoe, I would hope the twist rate in your rifle or the Chapuis in the OP's opening post are fast enough to stabilize the 45 gr TSX bullets.

I have a pre-64 model 70 Super Grade in 22 Hornet and shoot that bullet, very effective on coyotes, I suspect a double in 22 Hornet would be great fun hunting the smaller African antelope.

The Verney Carton booth. Number 4520

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From JJ Perodeau's web site, Chapuis is going to offer .22 Hornet doubles. That would be an interesting plink

Churchill made double rifles, very few, in .22 Rimfire with no sights. they were not for fur but feather. In fact rifled barrel shot guns in truth. To shoot duck at eighty and one hundred yards

These if light enough, straight gripped and balanced would make interesting duck guns where legal.

My idea of the perfect hunt. . .
Hunting rabbits on foot in the West Texas mesquite with a 22LR double rifle. I'd add a Burris FastFire sight for my old eyes.

I have an extra set of 30-30 barrels for my 28ga Chapuis Shotgun. They are 55 cm long and very light. I’m anticipating delivery of a Verney Carron 20Ga/303 British SXS in February. I like the medium caliber for double rifles as they get more use. I have a 450/400 DR that has only killed paper