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For those of you that missed this,

http://www.africahunting.com/d...0-nitro-express.html

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Posts: 696 | Location: Upper Midwest, USA | Registered: 07 February 2007Reply With Quote
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A 750 caliber double rifle...26+ lbs...not only "over the top", but down the hill on the other side. As Charlie Brown would say..."Good Grief" !
 
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One has to ask, why would anyone want to lug that around? coffee
 
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Now all CCMDoc's pics won't be so impressive?
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Yeah! Doc's would be considered the "Varmint" model!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Yeah! Doc's would be considered the "Varmint" model!!!!!!!!!!!


Sort a like this eh?



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Yeah, I guess no reason to post any more photos after seeing that!

I'll just enjoy mine as best I can in private. beer


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Aww come on Doc... You could always call VC and order up an 800 Nitro Express! Big Grin


You'd be the first kid on the block to have one!


But Biebs would go for an 850 NE after that.


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I was sitting in Mark Sullivans office here in Phoenix several years ago, he had his 600 & his 700 sitting there. He looked at me and said "Steve, ya know I really really need to work on my shooting with that 700 if I want to do a video with it in use" I saw the size of the thing and felt well......inadequate.

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Mike,
Wish you would have suggested that 6 months ago! CRYBABY

But as Clint Eastwood said: " a man's got to know his limitations"


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Ok,,,, Fine!



Wait 6 months more then go for it! Big Grin


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Unfortunately I won't be able to do that since I'll be using the wee little 600NE on elephant in Namibia. beer

I hope it meets the minimum cartridge requirement. bewildered


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The perfect caliber for the guy who: "was the little one in the locker room shower". Roll Eyes
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The perfect caliber for the guy who: "was the little one in the locker room shower". Roll Eyes
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Or the guy who wants to see how far the envelope can be pushed


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And your very first time out at the range, it doubles on you. Great gun to cure your chronic flinch. Also, no problem on follow up shots. So .577NE becomes your plains game rifle. Isn't life wonderful. dancing
 
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Would be a tough gun to hold on target for more than say a few seconds. Even my 600 Westley at almost 15lbs is a monster at times.
 
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I'd really like to try that gun when I have a cold.

The first shot would clear the sinuses like nobody's business and the second shot would probably detach the retinas lol

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That double's weight makes recoil more than manageable.1,200 grain bullet over 225 grains RL-22 at 1,900 dos out of a 26.5lb double is 109 ft-lbs recoil energy and 16fps recoil velocity.


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PT Barnum said, " A Sucker is born every minute." shocker Wonder who the sucker is who would want to carry that cannon? I will stick with my 450#2 at
11.25 lbs.. Smiler

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I'm sure that Will would take it IF it were under 9# and they lost one of the triggers! Big Grin Wink Big Grin


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Sucks its not a Sabatti, it would be worth at least 500 threads about it here. Big Grin
 
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Appears the world has passed him by during the 8 years it took to build his "750". Box says "Worlds Most Powerful Sporting Cartridge". That's certainly debatable.

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thats an interesting, and apparently well made, piece.. however, it is built heavier than a 4 bore .. which is more or less 1.0, vs .75 ..

its huge, but stupid huge


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Thinking Stolzer & Sons 2-Bore double will be about that weight.
 
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WOW, just WOW!


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He should have join AR and started posting on the big bore forum. Make a few friends here. Then called it the 750AR or 750oK. My god, he would be the site hero.

Instead what we got is some pussy builder - Only 100 ft-lbs recoil. No muzzle brake! And the only problem some can find with this idea is that the gun is too heavy!

Think impractical. At some point bigger does not work. You can debate if that point is 500,577 or 600 but there is a limit of human endurance vs penetration on game. That limit varies. Imposable to define. Clearly using a muzzle brake will extend that limit.

Dont imply this is stupid yet 2 bore makes any more sense.

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He should have join AR and started posting on the big bore forum. Make a few friends here. Then called it the 750AR or 750oK. My god, he would be the site hero.

Instead what we got is some pussy builder - Only 100 ft-lbs recoil. No muzzle brake! And the only problem some can find with this idea is that the gun is too heavy!

Think impractical. At some point bigger does not work. You can debate if that point is 500,577 or 600 but there is a limit of human endurance vs penetration on game. That limit varies. Imposable to define. Clearly using a muzzle brake will extend that limit.

Dont imply this is stupid yet 2 bore makes any more sense.

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No one but you is inferring any of it "makes sense". You must consistently think you have original thoughts to post the crap you do ...

Carry on!

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He should have join AR and started posting on the big bore forum. Make a few friends here. Then called it the 750AR or 750oK. My god, he would be the site hero.

Instead what we got is some pussy builder - Only 100 ft-lbs recoil. No muzzle brake! And the only problem some can find with this idea is that the gun is too heavy!

Think impractical. At some point bigger does not work. You can debate if that point is 500,577 or 600 but there is a limit of human endurance vs penetration on game. That limit varies. Imposable to define. Clearly using a muzzle brake will extend that limit.

Dont imply this is stupid yet 2
bore makes any more sense.




My god the things you say are so stupid it makes me want to piss my pants..Im still yet to hear of your experience besides spreading your foolish logic.. pissers
 
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He should have join AR and started posting on the big bore forum. Make a few friends here. Then called it the 750AR or 750oK. My god, he would be the site hero.

Instead what we got is some pussy builder - Only 100 ft-lbs recoil. No muzzle brake! And the only problem some can find with this idea is that the gun is too heavy!

Think impractical. At some point bigger does not work. You can debate if that point is 500,577 or 600 but there is a limit of human endurance vs penetration on game. That limit varies. Imposable to define. Clearly using a muzzle brake will extend that limit.

Dont imply this is stupid yet 2
bore makes any more sense.




My god the things you say are so stupid it makes me want to piss my pants..Im still yet to hear of your experience besides spreading your foolish logic.. pissers


He's over on the BB forum with a thread complaining he can't handle a 375 Ruger and whuddabout the 9.3 ... a guy who's never reloaded anything BB, and apparently never owned a heavy rifle. Just the kinda cat who needs to be commenting on the efficacy and technical feasibility of big guns. Guess the hundreds possibly thousands of guys who own and shoot these guns must be somehow cognitively deficient and should defer to "Fourbore" ..??

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I wonder what his opinion of my 10 bore Paradox Rifle under construction might be? That's an .800 NE.

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It says on the AH website that it took eight years to build.

But it's not finished yet, by the looks of it.

Do you think that, maybe with a whole lot of deep relief engraving and fish scale checkering, they can shave ten or twelve pounds off of it? Big Grin

Ballistics aren't what they need to be either.

On second thought, they'd be better off going back to the drawing board to find a better concept to start with.


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I wonder what his opinion of my 10 bore Paradox Rifle under construction might be? That's an .800 NE.


I be happy to share my thought when I see the gun. If I do speak, it will be honest.

The blackpowder guns could only deliver so much velocity and were forced to go big. But even there was a practical limit. At 10 bore you are no where near that limit.

I guess I have to lay low for a while. I see those I disagree with on other posts jumping on the crap wagon.
 
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Seems to be a bit of that going around lately !!! LOL

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500n Semms FB and afew others been drinking out of the same cask of wine
 
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Seriously, it is a good bit of fun but is it really needed ?

WHILE WALKING ALL DAY, (IE not driving around), carrying a 12 - 13lb well balanced 500 Nitro double in 40+ degree heat / 80+% humidity for 12 - 13 hours is bad enough and I was pretty fit at the time.

I notice that the name Morrow is on the base of the 750 case. Is he trying to get his name on every big bore as I have some 600 Nitro cases of his here (as well as Feldstein, H&H and 2 other names).

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Is anything over 500 needed in this day and age with bullet and powder technology??? Especially as a client hunter. Probaly not but its for the dare to be different crowd .
 
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WHILE WALKING ALL DAY, (IE not driving around), carrying a 12 - 13lb well balanced 500 Nitro double in 40+ degree heat / 80+% humidity for 12 - 13 hours is bad enough and I was pretty fit at the time.


Take a look at the gear soldiers are toting in far worse conditions. A 20 lb rifle ain't jack my friend. Eat better, take your vitamins, and get to the gym eh ...

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So everything you need for a day of hunting is equal to what one might need on a battlefield now ?
 
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Take a look at the gear soldiers are toting in far worse conditions. A 20 lb rifle ain't jack my friend. Eat better, take your vitamins, and get to the gym eh ...
Big Grin


Yes, nothing new from my day - except the body armor. Been there, done that.

Weapons are lighter than the SLR, M60 !!! LOL

50kg+ pack and 12kg Webbing and 5kg M60 in the hands is different ball game !!! LOL

Go the boys in the sand pit.

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