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As I was sitting here cleaning an Essex .410 double that my wife just inherited I got the thinking. Yep always dangerous. I know they make solid brass .410 shells as well as you can form them from a number of rifle cases. They also sell 410 rifled slug ammo. Don't know if you can buy components. Just wondering if it would be possible to load low pressure slugs and fire them from this double? While not new it locks up solid. Maybe put some cheap sites on it. Just something for 25-50yd dangerous mike jugs. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | ||
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if i had 1 that i wanted to play with, i'd use a brake cylinder hone to remove any existing choke and get as close to cylinder bore as i could... then weigh some some rifled slugs to get as close to a "factory" 1/2 oz load as possible... load with a slower burning powder like herco....maybe use a felt base wad to seal the bore.... go big or go home ........ DSC-- Life Member NRA--Life member DRSS--9.3x74 r Chapuis | |||
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sleeve in a couple of 22 hornet barrels into the barrel butts, and regulte it, and hunt coyotes with it! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Bore the chokes out, cut it for screw in chokes, get some rifled choke tubes made, extended or flush, and shoot round balls or a forster style slug that engages the rifeling. Voila .410 Paradox, that would be sweet.  "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | |||
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Well I would need to find a better price that Briley's $459. LOL As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Do you have a local smith ? My local guy can do it and he is very reasonable. "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | |||
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If you go to the site below, you'll see some photos of a .22 Hornet that I built on a .410 S x S. It worked out VERY well and shoots fine. http://forums.nitroexpress.com...earch=true#Post86251 | |||
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What about having choke tubes put in it, and then buying a short pistol barrel in .410 (aka stub 41 mag) and have a gunsmith turn them down and thread them to fit? I am having this done to my 10 gauge SxS double. Paradox Rifle from Purgatory. Rich | |||
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I would not agree. I would remove the choke bit by bit. It is often the case that some guns will shoot better with just a small amount of choke in them for some reason. I'd go down to about 1/4 choke which in USA is "improved modified" I think? Then try it. Maybe even start at "modified"? | |||
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Ypu mean a short barrel at the muzzle with a 20'+ jump? Beautiful. I'll have to check. You guys are going far beyond shooting rifled slugs down the current barrel. LOL As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Enfieldspares is dead on the money re the chokes, they can do the exact opposite of conventional wisdom at times. I used to own a drilling whose 12 gauge, 2 1/2"-chambered barrels were choked tighter than a bull's rectum during fly season. Accepted wisdom says that those barrels should have thrown terrible patterns when shooting buckshot. In fact, a left and a right, at 20 yards, would put all 18 pellets of "00" buckshot into a rectangle measuring 9" high by 18" long. Nothing is carved in stone in this game. | |||
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Well I think the idea of choke tubes is a nonstarter. Two places I found said they needed a mim of .505" muzzle dia. My barrels are .49" I would have to take of about 12" of barrel to get to .505". As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Inserting 410 barrels in a 12 gauge seems the best option. 405 win and the updated version of the 400 BPE by necking up 9,3x74 brass. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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LOL yes if I had an old 12ga laying around.  I could by EEA 45-70 inserts for my coach gun as well. Heck I'm quickly moving past shooting slugs and looking at a double Hornet.  Anyone had a person to contact about a double Hornet?As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Contact these folks! Shotgun inserts by MCACE Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Thanks Rusty I had already sent them an email. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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I have several of those adapters around, and also the ones from the guy he bought the business from... DM | |||
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Ok guys, sounds real good to me, if you say it quickly,  but two things I have always wondered about are wether old shotgun actions can take the pressure, particularly of rifle caliber sleeved barrels and how do you regulate the barrels?Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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GA, 1. you aren't loading them like a 460 Wbee, these are sub-20,000 Psi plinking toys. 2. if you put rifled choke tubes in them with an index mark on the front of the tube and on the connecting rib you can turn them in and out 1/8th turn at a time until the hit close enough to suit you have the modern day budget equivalent of a Paradox Gun. Three inches and centered at fifty yards, one heckuva big bore. Rich | |||
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Just heard form CowboyCS. Just as I figured the .49 dia barrel is simply to small for an insert. He suggested boring it out and making it a pumpkin ball shooter. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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You sure that the Outside Diameter is only .490? That leaves a cylinder wall thickness of only .040". Rich | |||
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Left side barrel. .4878" right side .4931. Barrel thickness .04-.045". Those barrel are THIN I set my micrometer at the .505 and I would need to back up about 11" from the muzzle. Ok with a bore of .41 looking on the net I get full .39, ImpM .395 Mod .4 Imp .405. Best I can measure I get right barrel imp left mod. Which would make a normal imp/mod double. For some reason I was thinking full was more th norm for a .410. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Here is one I have seen for sale for the last couple months. I know nothing about it except that I keep seeing it in my weeklyish search for the next thing I "need". http://www.gunsinternational.c...cfm?gun_id=100050636 Matthew | |||
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Here's some ammo for ya. http://www.hoeningbigboresouth.com/index.html These guys are serious about the .410  John  Give me COFFEE and nobody gets hurt | |||
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