Nothing wrong with Ruger 77 Mk II's either. They do take a little tweaking to get to their accuracy potential however, like free floating the barrel, polishing the bore good with JB Bore Paste, and doing a trigger job on them. Glass bedding not required. The 257 Ruger 77 I have now will hold its own against all comers in the accuracy department, after doing the tweaking.

Don

I bought my Savage 12 VLP in .204 because of it's accuracy, not it's price. It really wasn't that cheap as far a Savages go either. I also think it's a very good looking rifle. I polished the bolt and mounted a Zeiss Conquest 6.5x20x50 and have never had anyone say they thought it was ugly. As a matter of fact it get's nothing but praise......go figure.

I don't own one, but both my brother's recently purchased Savages in 7 MM WSM and they don't look purty till you see them shoot....then all ugliness dissipates! ALthough my brother did spend a considerable amount of time holding my Tikka T3 lite, then shouldering his Savage. He says the Tikka is a heck of a lot nicer, but for a few hundred less $'s....he's shooting one heck of an accurate rifle! (Not saying my Tikka isn't a darn accurate rifle she can print sub MOA all day long if I do my part!)

Just wanted to say that I enjoyed the poll. I don't think it is unfair to Savages. I would much rather have a Mercedez but I own a Ford because I can't afford a Mercedez. I'm glad there are Fords and I'm not ashamed to own one. Because I can't afford certain other brands of guns I buy Vanguards and Savages. I'm not ashamed of my Vanguards and Savages, and I'm happy some people can afford more expensive guns. Savage fills a needed niche, just like Fords and Chevys.

Savage?.. . . . Savage. . . . ?
I stand corrected. . . . I always thought it was "Salvage"!

Even if I couldn't sell the rifle, I'd still pick the H&H. It would be similar to asking me what car would I pick under the same circumstances; the Bugatti Veyron. The Holland and the Veyron are such uber-expensive luxuries that I will most likely never own either, seems crazy to pass up the opportunity to own one for free.

Can't say I own a Savage though. I know they work, just can't get past that odd looking bolt.

Three of my rifles are Savages: a tupperware 22-250, a Model 11 300 WSM, and a 7mm-08 Model 14 American Classic.

I also drive a Dakota Crew Cab because I can afford it. If VD was going to buy me a truck, I would take a tricked out F-250 Crew Cab.

I am not sure this thread(s) really proves anything.

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I am not sure this thread(s) really proves anything.

All in fun sir.....all in fun...

BTW....did you notice this thread is 18 months old?

FWIW....I drive a 10-year old F-150 with 302,000 miles on it.....my house is less than 1000 sq-ft including the basement so I'm very interested in thrift....same as everyone else....

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Your poll does not prove anything,

except that most will buy a Savage because it is cheap and not for the accuracy they claim.

Cheap might be a harsh description. It implies poor-quality junk. Value may be a more fair statement.

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BTW....did you notice this thread is 18 months old?

Yep, funny how they just come to life again....