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tom (white bison) do you want to add the narative to this good stuff! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | ||
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Wow! Those are some unique rifles! | |||
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Hi: Thanks for posting my photos...I've got to get a better camera, its an el cheapo. Anyway, take careful note of the multiple locking lugs on the bolts...there are 7 with a Mauser type claw extractor. Newton built his bolts & receivers of chrome vanadium steel, not chrom moly...the same stuff as truck axles. Where the normal guns steels had so-so stength, Newtons was multiples higher. And the multiple lugs have about 3X the bearing area of a standard two lug Mauser, Winchester or any other bolt rifle...there was never an instance of a Newton Rifle blowing, even from gross negligence. Not only that...being multiple lugs, they are made shorter...don't have to stick out as far as standard bolt guns...as a result the receiver is as svelte as a ballerinas leg (don't ask me how I know abour ballerinas!). So the receiver is about the nicest, slimmist, modern, neatest receiver ever put on any bolt action rifle...none can compare even today..there is a vertical moving 3 position safety, works like the model 70 type, but is samller, vertical & much neater. I think it was Frank De Haas who said the receiver is so clean, and it is. The double triggers are Newton's design and their merit is they aren't dainty or near fragile like most double trigger rigs, but simple & strong. Nothing can go wrong with them. Then Newton put in a 1/4" adjusting screw between the triggers, not like the tiny screws on others that are easily lost, etc. All well thought out. A superior desing to go with his superior cartridges. The rifles have been refinished like new, the .256 Newton has a 1918 barrel that was never put on a rifle, nor shot through, until I did. Mint & absolutely clean...an original like new Newton Barrel. I had the rifles refinished, as age had taken their toll..and I'm not a purist collector...just kept it all the same, except new wood, blueing...just cosmetic really. All design & function intact. Well, that's some of it...the gunsmith who designed Newton's stock was Fred Adolf, a German immigrant gunsmith who once build custom double rifles for Teddy Roosevelt. There was one of his Presidential Guns shown at the last Safari Club Convention in Reno, I believe. Quite a pedigree to the Newton Rifles. However, the slim, elegant stocks were a bit light for such as the .30 Newton, and especially .35 Newtons...the stocks had to be precisely inletted to avoid splitting...some were, some weren't. The Buffalo newton with the pinkish stock (the gunsmith who used the exotic carob wood said it turned out pink..I told him, its OK, its my wifes rifle! Actually I'll get it dyed dark some day, its the natural color now & I don't care for it. Two of the rifles need checkering too, I have the copies of the original patterns so will get that done someday. The Buffalo Newton has little respect among Newton Fans & collectors..its nowhere's as finely made as the 1st models. What Newton did was to try & make the rifle easier to produce compared to the many machining steps on the 1st model. He kept the multiple lugs, but the bolt is overly complex, even weird. Also cocks on closing..has the "enfield dog leg" type bolt design. There were only about 1,000 of these made, and few survive because no one really cared about them...I doubt very many have survived. And, believe it or not, but Newton made the rifle without a recoil lug! he had a complex other rig..that only would work if all perfect. And what happened, his workmen were then doing lousy jobs...no quality control, no respect for Newton & turned out lots of Buffalo Newtons with poor inletting. These rifles have to have absolutely precise, perfect inletting of the stocks will split easily due to no recoil lug...mine is fine, but only because the gunsmith who put the new wood copy on it was sure to inlet it very precisely around the receiver...it hasn't split on me, evn when firing my .30 Newton hot loads...3300fps with 180 gr bullets, 3500 fps with 165 gr. .308 bullets. Thats some of it..the major items. Once, Bruce Jennings asked Roy Weatherby if he may have gotten his idea of multiple locking lugs from the Newton designs...and he as much admitted it private to Jennings, I was told. Frank De Haas in his popular book has a chapter on Newton Rifles in which he laments: "Why has somebody not revived the Newton Rifle?...and if this is done the revival should be complete:action with double set triggers, stock design and in calibers originally designed by Newton to include the .250-3000, .256 Newton,.30 Newton and .35 Newton." Wishful thinking, Frank! I think the main stumbling block would be most likely they would be pretty costly...Newton never got a patent on his rifles. Whew, didn't mean to be verbose, but there's always a lot to talk about!Gun guys who have seen & handled my Newtons are amazed that they are more modern than their new ones! And the Newtons with their (Model 70 copied) floorplate release button...were all takedowns. You release the floorplate, comes out at about 1 30 degree angle, then turned it until it stops. Then you grasp the barrel ahead of the forend & the barreled action lifts out. But the stock is still a one piece stock. This was to case the rifle for traveling much the same as a shorter shotgun case where the barrels are separate from the rest. And the beauty of it is, its a hand take down, no tools, and rifle returns to zero again upon reassembly. If you ever find one, but it..spend some perhaps to restore it & you'll have the nicest, most modern rifle made. Best Regards, Tom from Cody ps. In the original Newton/Pope Barrel (Harry Pope was Newton's Barrel Shop Super. & designed the rifling, as well as checked the barrelmaking)...my rifle shoots as accurately as any new rifle, probably better than most) | |||
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The first photo of the bolt is the Buffalo Newton Bolt (2nd model)...totally eccentric, cocks on closing, has a sliding extractor that turns in a groove on the bolt body. It works, but should win the prize for the most odd piece of gunmaking! When I had to dissasemble it for cleaning & oiling, well good thing I had info from the old catalogs...why Newton ever used such a complex bolt is beyond me. His first model was excellent, superb! This bolt is the Rubics Cube of bolts as far as being a puzzle! Tom | |||
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Another goodie! When Newton cut the multiple bolt lugs, it was like cutting threads of a bolt...so... the result is the bolt fits like a bolt with nut threaded, not only precise fitting, complete, tight contact. No need to lap in bolt lugs, or only have one bolt lug contacting fully...all surfaces of the Newton lug were so cut that they were in complete contact. Plus as I've said had 3X bearing surface of convention 2 lug bolts. So there! Best Regards, Tom | |||
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Thanks for sharing these photo's. I've never seen one in person, if I ever do find one f/s I hope it's at a garage sale! Nate | |||
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