I named it LC to be just that, LC, doesn't stand for nuttin!

1.11", 1.65 oal, 45/70 case, with a turned in rim (if it comes to that), with max 28K pressure.

hoping to get rem 405s to 1000FPS .. I'll cut down some 45/70 brass and try in my handirifle .. if i get (a good deal) over that 1000FPS, I make invest in reamer and dies ..

what I WANT is a 625-2, but with a long cylinder, shooting .458 bullets at 1000fps, 5 shooter.

Will it work? does it matter? probably not .. a 454Casull will be more powerful ..

just want to SEE what it does at 1.11" case .. if it work, maybe .. if not, well, its just some scraped brass

.45 LC brass can be loaded with .458 bullets.

At least one Ruger with oversized chambers has been rebarreled. The owner called it .458 Enforcer, I think.

Let me see if I can find where I read about it..
http://castboolits.gunloads.co...5&highlight=enforcer

http://castboolits.gunloads.co...6&highlight=enforcer

I discussed this a while back in the handgun forum and it was made on a diff case the 7.62x54 case cut back. I can find the thread.

http://forums.accuratereloadin...=294103227#294103227

so this would be in propper nomenclature a 45-35?

here is a pic of the 1.4" 45-70 and a 45-70



480 Ruger brass would have more capacity but I am sure you know that.

Reminds me of the 458 Devestator too

http://www.singleactions.com/458Devastator.pdf

http://www.handloads.com/loadd...Order=Powder&Source=


http://www.singleactions.com/450Bonecrusher.pdf


http://forums.accuratereloadin...=315102104#315102104

well,that's good news.
the 458 enforcer is reasonably close, EXCEPT i don't want to have reverse tapered cases ..

these guys all went light(er) and faster ..

I want pumpkin chunkin

let's see what it takes to get a rem 405 to 1000 FPS .. a casull can do it to 1350 or better.

would I be happy with 900? SURE ... if its accurate and easy enough to shoot

most muzzle loaders are NOT going 400gr at 1100 fps .. I think i can be right there with them, in a smallish gun.

No, I don't want to do a ruger or an xframe .. i LIKE the 625

The .458 Enforcer doesn't have a reverse tapered case.

Case mouths of loaded rounds of .45 LC measure about .472-.473 with .452 bullets. With .458" bullets you end up with a cylindrical case of about .478".

Thanks .. I'll see if i can work with that ..
I'll stuff some .458s into LCs

The stronger longer casull case at same length might be better or just at the nominal length.

I read an article once of someone who cut back casull cases to get higher performance out of LC length.

405's @ 1,200 in a wheel gun would be a lot of fun.

I think the casull needs a longer barrel

Boom,

The .454 brass is thicker and has more internal taper. I haven't tried loading 45-70 bullets into .454 cases, but the .45 LC is maxed out at .458".

quote:

Originally posted by Ralfboy:
Boom,

The .454 brass is thicker and has more internal taper. I haven't tried loading 45-70 bullets into .454 cases, but the .45 LC is maxed out at .458".

So someone would have to bother with inside neck reaming I gather.

I would think so. I try to avoid neck reaming.

quote:

Originally posted by Ralfboy:
I would think so. I try to avoid neck reaming.

AMEN!

bullets fit ..
on second (shortest oal) groove, its about .09 to long ..

this may not work in the Smith .. its hanging OUT of the cylinder! can't put them in any deeper, as that wouldn't ahve bullet diameter to crimp and would consume too much case

can't cut the brass shorter, as then its a 455 webley or some such

need to do some serious cognitatin on a superredhawk ...

and asking myself is it THAT important....

this one looks like a 2 case mock up and forget it wildcat

proof that not all mine work .. some times you shoot blanks, so to speak

looks REALLY impressive, though

What length did you trim the cases?

1.109

A little sandpaper in the nose of the bullet can fix that

Something isn't adding up.

Assuming this is a .45 ACP/AR gun the cylinder should be about 1.54" but the rim thickness of the .45 AR is about .090 vs. .060 for the .45 LC. This should give you about 1.62" of room.

A 1.109" case with 405 Rem in the forward crimp should have a OAL of about 1.56" and fit with ease.

What am I missing?

brainfart -- g's, i was working from memory on the case length
1.27"case, with rem 405,
1.817 ..

1.717 would BARELY work

ralf is right.. and i am haveing a moment ..

MIGHT still work