What would it be if one put a 9.3 bullet into a 7mm rem mag case? I'm sure someone has done this.

The same as putting a 9.3 into a 338 WM case.

Effectively a 9.3 Taylor

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
What would it be if one put a 9.3 bullet into a 7mm rem mag case? I'm sure someone has done this.

tight roger

Using 338 brass, here's what they look like, compared to the 338 Win Mag in the middle. The two cartridges on the outside , left and right, are 9.3x338, loaded with Nosler ballistic tip, and accubond.

would someone tell me the difference between a 9.3-.338, a .358 Norma mag, a .375 Taylor, and a .375 Ruger....they seem like peas in a pod to me....

It seems that necking up the .375 Ruger is more popular than necking it down.....I'd far rather neck the .375 Ruger to 9.3 than neck up the .338 Mag.....

You're asking a question that you already know the answer to.

Most likely I would have necked the .375 Ruger to 9.3mm, if the Ruger cartridge had been introduced before I got committed to the 9.3x338. I already had the reamer and custom dies by that time. In hindsite, if I had thought about it too long, I probably wouldn't have done it at all.

If I had used the Ruger brass, and necked it down, some wise ass would say something like "what's the point".

It got momentum over an argument and aggrivation about the 9.3x64. My buddy insisted on the 9.3x64, and he still has feeding issues with that rifle, and difficulty finding brass. OTOH, I have no feeding issues, and no problems with brass.

One thing is clear - if the 338WM belted cartridge is successful and effective, then there is no merit in downgrading this wildcat, because it has a belt, or because you would have made a different choice in the parent case, or not done it at all.

I have tested it quite a bit, and it's not picky about bullet weight or brand, or the powder - all within reason. The latest handload development is with the Barnes 250gr TSX bullets, which turned out to be very accurate in this rifle. I figured that I might as well go for speed, since that's about all this cartridge has to offer over the 9.3x62. I figured the TSX would give speed, accuracy and penetration. So, for now I have a bunch loaded up, and the rifle is sighted in, and ready to go hunting when I am.

I'm happy with it, but I think I would be just as happy with a 358 Norma, and maybe also with any of those you mentioned as well. Of course being accurate and easy to develope loads for it has been a big factor in my enjoyment of it.

It's one of those Rugers that wouldn't shoot accurately no matter what I tried, and rebarreled it's one of my most accurate rifles. Feeds good too, or did I mention that already?

KB

How about the 9,300 Win Mag
300 Win Mag necked up to 9,3

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would someone tell me the difference between a 9.3-.338, a .358 Norma mag, a .375 Taylor, and a .375 Ruger....they seem like peas in a pod to me....

Yep all depends on what weight bullet you want to shoot. Now the 375 Ruger will gain you some capacity over the other 3 which I would lable to close to call.

How about a 9.3X64? Oh yeah, that would be too easy.

you´ll get the same ballistics if you just neck up a 300 WSM Case.......

285grs. Bullet at 2600fps........

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2RECON

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Originally posted by ForrestB:
How about a 9.3X64? Oh yeah, that would be too easy.

I call dealing with 338WM brass easy. Necked up to 9.3, it has almost the same case capacity as the 9.3x64, with the bonus of the belt.

To me the 9.3x64 is the same as dealing with a wildcat, handload only, and a lot more aggrivation.

As I said, my buddy who went with the 9.3x64 in a Mauser still has (significant to me) feeding problems after spending a tidy sum for correction. Brass has been an issue too. I think it's available now, but lo and behold, I don't know for sure, because I don't care, since I don't need it. Last I heard, my friend wasn't shooting his anymore, since he got a 375 Ruger.

KB

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Originally posted by boom stick:
How about the 9,300 Win Mag
300 Win Mag necked up to 9,3

I hate the 300WM case. With the Ruger action that I had as a donor, the magazine length had to be considered. OAL turned out to be just right with the 338 brass. If the magazine was just a little longer, such as a CZ medium action, I would have gone with the 358 Norma brass as the parent case. As it is, the 338WM brass is perfect, and less expensive too.

KB

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Originally posted by 2RECON:
you´ll get the same ballistics if you just neck up a 300 WSM Case.......

285grs. Bullet at 2600fps........

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2RECON

Ballistics are only part of the overall picture. First, I hate the 300 WSM case as a parent case for anything. I already had an action to use, and the WSM case wouldn't work in it. It's gotta feed, or it's worthless.

KB

Yes, ballistics is the one side....ok.

But i can´t see the problem why that case shouldn´t feed or extract.....
I´ve seen some Rifles made for that 9,3-300WSM, based on REM 700, Win70 and HOWA 1500 Actions that work just fine.....

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2RECON

Are you talking about short actions?

Also, are you talking about push feed action for the Winchester?

As far as I know about the subject, ALL the rifle makers who offered the WSM series, and other short Magnums, it was in a short action, and they modified the magazine box and feed rails / ramps, where appropriate, to get the cartridges to feed properly. They surely didn't just plop a WSM barrel onto their existing action.

Given that, apparantly ALL the rifle manufactures saw something about feeding that you don't see, or they wouldn't have modified their actions to accomodate the cartridge.

Also, as far as I know, no mfg makes a WSM on a long action.

So why would it be OK to put a barrel chambered in a WSM on a long action, in a custom rifle?

KB