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The U.S. .30-'06 has lots of wildcat born brethren. What about the Mauser-based 57mm length cartridges? Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | ||
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 yes.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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This is missing the 257 Roberts and 9,5x57 MS but you get the idea. I think a .410 and .358 would make nice additions as well as the rimless 444.  577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Also missing the 6mm Rem or 244 your choice. Then several .224 wildcats based on the 6mm. TTH, Clark etc. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Ah yes... The 6mm Rem. the 35 and 410 versions could be great wildcats but the well designed 9,5x57 splits the difference well. A 35 x 57 improved would get close to 35 Whelen performance but what is truly a niche is the 410. Possible to reproduce 405 win performance with 300 grain bullets. A mini 400 Whelen. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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And the 5.6x57 which has a very thick neck brass as it also has an adapter cartridge that allows it to fire the 22 rimfires. | |||
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I would also wager that the 7.7x58 Japanese is an offspring. Interestingly, the 7.7 chamber reamer offered by a couple of makers, has a neck diameter equal to an American .30 cal round case. This allows it to be used to create a 7.62mm x 57 wildcat by simply short-chambering a .30 cal barrel and necking down 8x57 brass. | |||
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http://www.municion.org/Dwm/Dwm511B.htm I forgot the never adopted 1907 Chinese Military 6.8x57. Think of it as a larger diameter 257 Roberts with the shorter 6.8 SPC bullets. I am temped to to have one of these on a short action and 6.8 SPC bullets but the 6.8 SPC and 270 Win are just so much more practical. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I just picked up a 9X57 Oberndorf and some original Kynoch ammo and was a bit surprised to find the bullets are .357" not the .355" I always thought. I have read that most guns will shoot .358" bullets just fine though. | |||
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I have all these except the rimmed variants, as well as the 6mm rem, and 8.5x57. The several 9x57's I have had would all shoot .358" bullets as the chamber neck was large enough to accomodate. Heck, I even had one that had the neck enlarged so as to allow firing 9,3x57 cartridges. I have enough 9,3x57's and the neck was too sloppy for my liking so it is now a .35 Whelen. The 8.5x57 is a wildcat designed by me and a customer. Very good round.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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IMHO the 6mm Rem. and the 7x57 are the greatest thing since peanut butter. I've owned, but never hunted with an 8x57, but it can be loaded to 30/06 power levels and should be superb. To the best my knowledge the europeans use it like we do our 30/06. Great cartridges. velocity is like a new car, always losing value. BC is like diamonds, holding value forever. | |||
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Interesting line up. Some of these are like a new language for novices like me. But, I'm catching on to metric calibers. Thanks all. Keep it going. Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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I like to split the difference and shoot the 6.5x55, but since it isn't Xx57 based, I'll recommend the 6.5x57, its ballistic twin. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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The 7x57 is the lightest recoiling big game rifle that I would hunt anywhere on earth with and feel comfortable.. I would choose the 175 gr Nosler, North Fork soft or cup point and one of the flat nose solids of same weight or close, probably the GS Customs.. If I had to hunt the world with one bullet in a 7x57, it would be the cup point.. Hope I never have to do this!  Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Oh yeah....thanks for the line-up pic. Ray Life itself is a gift. Live it up if you can. | |||
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