Haven't seen this thread in a while, thought I'd bring up the subject.
Anyone have any bright ideas they'd like to share?
There's almost a seamless array from A-Z these days; we've got short mags doing what standard mags do, standard rounds doing what long mags do, Rigby/Lapua necked up and down... finally, is there anything left worth doing?

Dibbs on the .423/.375 Ruger, to be called the ".404 Aagaard."

are my 450/475/510/550 on the 505 Gibbs already inventoried? If so, or not, looks as if we may need to add rimmed versions. Ask me about those four, and a 575 and 610 versions.

Rich

quote:

Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
are my 450/475/510/550 on the 505 Gibbs already inventoried? If so, or not, looks as if we may need to add rimmed versions. Ask me about those four, and a 575 and 610 versions.

Rich

Based on this, perhaps?


Or this?

no, and no. The rimmed cases would be based on the cylindrical 505 case; .635" at shoulder, no taper to .635" at case mouth, and 3.2"oal. I would be turning the base up as far as the front edge of the extractor groove to .500", threading it and a rim (washer) and epoxying on the "rim". Put .005" taper and end up with a case mouth OD of .630" minus .030" (2X .015" case thickness)= room to seat a .600" diameter bullet. I would also think that rims can be put on all of the cartridges, allowing me to have rimmed versions for a DR; ans till use the same die sets. It's a cheap thrills sort of thing...too many long winters here in Idaho.

Rich

Rich I have nearly same coming from
Rocky Mountain in a turned case good for
38,000 psi. The 28ga From Hell, 3.25 in long
and chamber will still fire regular 28 ga
cases. Save all the work putting on rims,
just cut chamber in the bolt gun setting
here ready to go with 550 barrel. At that pressure I can load it like my Savage 12ga FH pressure level and easily get up to
9000 ft lbs, if I want. It wil ldefinately
get shotgun to a long range status.Ed

like I said Ed "...too many long winters her in Idaho..."

I am just tinkering.

Rich

I have taken on the challenge of trying to come up with as many wildcats as possible that are created without using any special reamers or dies. My current favourite is the 6.5 Stalker, which is, in essence, a 6.5-.284 Win. with a rim. I use Win. .45-70 brass as the base. This cartridge is chambered in a 'stalking rifle' made up on, of all things, a single barrel 16 guage Baikal shotgun. With just a short bit of time, I have gotten 160 gr. RN into 1" @ 100 meters with the first load I tried. Another idea along the same lines is the 9.5 Stalker, which is the front 2.1" of the .375 H&H. Just run the reamer in 2.1", and then cut off .375 H&H dies, and use .45-70 brass. Most likely an answer looking for a question, but why not???

I like GG's post. Run a 45-70 case into a 284 FL die...they are about the same diameter.

Rich
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NRA Life Member

To follow up on my last post, I should explain how I get the cases into shape for fireforming. I run the .45-70's into a .40-65 sizer, which tapers the whole case. Then, I run them into a .300 H&H sizer that I cust off to 2.1", which gives it a slight shoulder and neck. Then, into a cut-off (very short) .308 Win die, just to bring the neck size down, and finally into a 6.5-284 die. I used about 9 grains of Bullseye and a bulk Rem. 140 SP to fireform, and only lost about 6 out of 50. I suppose I would anneal the necks before fireforming next time.

I am thinking a 9.3 WSM would be great. Trying to get 9.3X64 balistics out of a readily available case.

noooooooo!
35 wsm! the 35 wsm is the most versitile wsm wildcat thar be...

Seems every idea I come up with is either already done or there is no point because it is covered by another case. Except for specific firearm requirements such as rim design I thinks it's all been done. There may be a few true wildcats left to discover, however, the amount of work and expense requied may not be worth the outcome.

The needed wildcats I don,t think are different cases or bullets ....Its POWDER we need new powders.....We need powder that will push a 275 gr 358 bullet from a necked up 300 Short RUM case@ 2700 fps from a 17 " barrel burning around 60 gr of powder... It must be tempature stable from -60 F to plus 125dg. And operate within a normal powder,,,,,... pressure and temp zones

How about a 375-50-90 Sharps?
Use a Ruger #1
Jim

I believe you meant 50-140?! :O

I'd like a 416 Ruger, I'd like one alot.

Purely as a sick novelty I've wanted to neck Robs 600 Overkill down to 45 to make the Alaskan Varminter, 500gr, 3000 fps. But my 500 Jeffrey has pretty well dampened my super power rifle desires, and I haven't even worked up to full patch loads.

Despite having sworn off cats, it looks like I'll be chambering possibly three next year, 223 AI, 22-250 AI and 25-06 AI. The 22's will be high volume shooters, so reducing trimming of brass is worth it. The 25 could be the std chamber, but it's too be a faster the better gun, and the imp chamber get's one pretty stinking close to a 257 Wetherby.

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Originally posted by Paul H:
I'd like a 416 Ruger, I'd like one alot.

Purely as a sick novelty I've wanted to neck Robs 600 Overkill down to 45 to make the Alaskan Varminter, 500gr, 3000 fps. But my 500 Jeffrey has pretty well dampened my super power rifle desires, and I haven't even worked up to full patch loads.

Despite having sworn off cats

There needs to be a 12 step program! I find the same conflict each winter!

Wintertime in the Northland is full of great ideas

400 Ruger ala 400 Tembo

In fact couldn't you do anything on the 375 Ruger that has been done on the 404 Jeffery?

I'd be looking to build a rifle that would
"balance" better than one with the longer reciever.

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Originally posted by I Bin Therbefor:
400 Ruger ala 400 Tembo

In fact couldn't you do anything on the 375 Ruger that has been done on the 404 Jeffery?

I'd be looking to build a rifle that would
"balance" better than one with the longer reciever.

Sounds like the 458 may be a stretch

the 411 would be awesome...

the 458 would have an 18 thou shoulder with the body blown out and more capacity than the lott.

boom stick,
As another confirmed "nut", I'm sort of left wondering whether the 375Ruger would make an exceptional novelty loaded with a 0.435" projectile from the 425Westley Richards. Woodleigh makes soft and FMJ 410gr and I believe you can also order 450gr for a wildcat that was put together here in Australia using that projectile ontop of a 375H&H case.
Hmmmm.....
Cheers...
Con
Oops ... Just did a search and noticed RIP beat me to the thought ... smart man ... wonder if he patented it

go for it con...first one to make one gets all the credit

I have the .300WSM case necked down to 6.5mm and up to .338 for a switch-barreled rifle. Both are great. Now my buddy, who has an identical rig only with a righthand bolt, wants to do the .375 (trying to talk him into .395) and/or .416. Oh well, its snowing big time here in Colorado...where snow is like a virgin on her wedding night...knows she's going to get it, but doesn't know how much or for how long.

how about sticking a 375 dakota reamer in a 375 barrel to 2.1" and use 375 ruger brass.

use shortened dakota dies and get 270's @ 2500 and 300's @ 2400

a 2.1 rugoda!

same capacity as a 376 steyer i think

i checked the dimensions of the dakota... it wont work but the shortened other rums will work...stick in a 7mm 30 338 or 375 rum reamer in 2.1ish inches and viola! a ruger under mag

more capacity than the 06 and a short action without a rebate with 375 ruger brass.

A 35 300 Short RUM and /or 9.3 S RUM 375 S RUM / 411 S RUM /416 S RUM / 458 S RUM..... The problem is getting the ballistics needed from a short barrel... The 458 has more capacity than the 450 Marlin .. Should do 2200 with a 400 gr bullet from an 18" barrel and it necks up real easy... The only problem is it doesn,t have a belt.......

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
go for it con...first one to make one gets all the credit

BS,
No money nor time ... the 375-08 is currently sucking up time as I'm fireforming brass and sorting out little problems like how to neck size it, what loads to use etc etc ..,, and money ... well its currently being allocated to "Project 303/35". Decided its time for a short-range, 10shot .35cal bruiser on a No4 action. Hopefully it starts being built around April 2007.
Cheers...
Con

using an altered neck length reamer for the 450/400 and 404 jefferey will work too on a shortened ruger case

411 and 423 short action big bores

Profess242....I was going to use the 300WSM case with a 6.5 bullet on top but changed my mind to the 270WSM as that was the rifle brought home. I won't be hunting those big bears but come next season I am going to take home some elk steaks from Colorado with the rifle using 160 grain Hornady bullets.