Has anyone improve the 404 Jeff?
The 400 Thembo come near, but it is a true .400 calibre.

yes - 404 dakota being the most "famose" .. as well as the 416 ultracat or the 416 AccRel for other "close but no cigar"

The 404 Jeffery is one of those cartridges that dosent "need" improving. Very easy to get 2300fps+ with 400gn bullet and this will take care of any situation.

Von Gruff.

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yes - 404 dakota being the most "famose" .. as well as the 416 ultracat or the 416 AccRel for other "close but no cigar

Seems to me that the while the 404 Dakota and 416AccRel started with a 404 and reduced the taper they ended up shorter.

Since the 404 is already leaving 10,000 psi on the table. Normal pressure rounds should do 2300+ easy. With the right gun and brass go to 63,000+ like the 404 Dakota or Ultra's. How hard do you need to hit something anyway??

Curious what is the 404 Barnes Supreme? Some type of belted case?

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This the one ALF is talking about.


and the regular unleaded

Speaking of .404 wildcats...

How come I've never seen a .410/.408/.411 calibre .404 based cartridge?

Guys do.416's or .404variants or.450's but I don't recall an instance of anyone duplicating the .450/.400 calibre in the .404 case...


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Speaking of .404 wildcats...

How come I've never seen a .410/.408/.411 calibre .404 based cartridge?

Guys do.416's or .404variants or.450's but I don't recall an instance of anyone duplicating the .450/.400 calibre in the .404 case...


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For what the dare to be different factor to close together to make any difference 400 at 2150-2300 weither its 411 or 423 the days of bc and sd are moot with bullet technology.

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Originally posted by TwoZero:
Speaking of .404 wildcats...

How come I've never seen a .410/.408/.411 calibre .404 based cartridge?

Guys do.416's or .404variants or.450's but I don't recall an instance of anyone duplicating the .450/.400 calibre in the .404 case...


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simple .416 bullets are cheap and suitable for DG

Everyone has tried, not any of them have met with a great deal of success..besides how can you improve on a 404 Jefferys, all you do is remove the nostalgia, a very important part of the very essence of Africa.

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Curious what is the 404 Barnes Supreme? Some type of belted case?

Formed from 375 H&H Magnum cases.

Thanks

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Everyone has tried, not any of them have met with a great deal of success..besides how can you improve on a 404 Jefferys, all you do is remove the nostalgia, a very important part of the very essence of Africa.

good one Ray