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22 April 2011, 20:33
303epps
404 Jef improved
Has anyone improve the 404 Jeff?
The 400 Thembo come near, but it is a true .400 calibre.
22 April 2011, 22:18
jeffeosso
yes - 404 dakota being the most "famose" .. as well as the 416 ultracat or the 416 AccRel for other "close but no cigar"


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
23 April 2011, 01:28
Von Gruff
The 404 Jeffery is one of those cartridges that dosent "need" improving. Very easy to get 2300fps+ with 400gn bullet and this will take care of any situation.

Von Gruff.


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23 April 2011, 03:03
ramrod340
quote:
yes - 404 dakota being the most "famose" .. as well as the 416 ultracat or the 416 AccRel for other "close but no cigar

Seems to me that the while the 404 Dakota and 416AccRel started with a 404 and reduced the taper they ended up shorter. Wink

Since the 404 is already leaving 10,000 psi on the table. Normal pressure rounds should do 2300+ easy. With the right gun and brass go to 63,000+ like the 404 Dakota or Ultra's. How hard do you need to hit something anyway?? rotflmo

Curious what is the 404 Barnes Supreme? Some type of belted case?


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
23 April 2011, 13:56
ALF
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27 April 2011, 16:13
.366torque
This the one ALF is talking about.


and the regular unleaded

27 April 2011, 20:09
TwoZero
Speaking of .404 wildcats...

How come I've never seen a .410/.408/.411 calibre .404 based cartridge?

Guys do.416's or .404variants or.450's but I don't recall an instance of anyone duplicating the .450/.400 calibre in the .404 case...


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28 April 2011, 00:49
Express_Rifles
quote:
Speaking of .404 wildcats...

How come I've never seen a .410/.408/.411 calibre .404 based cartridge?

Guys do.416's or .404variants or.450's but I don't recall an instance of anyone duplicating the .450/.400 calibre in the .404 case...


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For what the dare to be different factor to close together to make any difference 400 at 2150-2300 weither its 411 or 423 the days of bc and sd are moot with bullet technology.
04 May 2011, 08:56
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by TwoZero:
Speaking of .404 wildcats...

How come I've never seen a .410/.408/.411 calibre .404 based cartridge?

Guys do.416's or .404variants or.450's but I don't recall an instance of anyone duplicating the .450/.400 calibre in the .404 case...


.


simple .416 bullets are cheap and suitable for DG


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
02 November 2011, 04:00
Atkinson
Everyone has tried, not any of them have met with a great deal of success..besides how can you improve on a 404 Jefferys, all you do is remove the nostalgia, a very important part of the very essence of Africa.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
02 November 2011, 07:03
MickinColo
quote:
Curious what is the 404 Barnes Supreme? Some type of belted case?

Formed from 375 H&H Magnum cases.


02 November 2011, 09:18
ramrod340
Thanks tu2


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
02 November 2011, 15:19
eagle27
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Everyone has tried, not any of them have met with a great deal of success..besides how can you improve on a 404 Jefferys, all you do is remove the nostalgia, a very important part of the very essence of Africa.


clap good one Ray