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You guys are getting this all wrong, you're supposed to invite me. I will however pay my airfare, my bar bill (you'll be glad) and if I don't miss I will even pick up my trophy fees. It's just one of those huge cosmic coincidences that my translation and photography fees work out to precisely the same amount as Toufic's daily rates. Big Grin


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OK who speaks the lingo a little better than my school boy French?


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I loved this report!

Thanks, gents, for taking the time to share your experience in Burkina Faso.

I am to the point in my hunting that I am sort of cherry-picking. Those roan and buffalo look terrific to me!

Bravo to both of you!


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Enjoyed the report guys and I am in awe at your rifles. They sure are pretty.

It looks like a little slice of heaven you guys found in Burkina Faso.


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You guys are getting this all wrong, you're supposed to invite me. I will however pay my airfare, my bar bill (you'll be glad) and if I don't miss I will even pick up my trophy fees. It's just one of those huge cosmic coincidences that my translation and photography fees work out to precisely the same amount as Toufic's daily rates. Big Grin


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Question: had you been hunting lion, do you feel like you would have had an opportunity at a shootable male? I realize that's pretty hypothetical but since the two of you were there on the ground it's worth asking.


The answer is quite a bit more complicated than the question. There's no baiting allowed in Burkina so it's basicly a tracking/stalking affair. I don't know the rules or customs on calling lions there.

There was one hunter in camp, JP, who didn't get a lion in the two weeks we were there. It was a strange deal though. It was either the most lackadaisical lion hunt I've ever seen or either the client, the PH, or Toufic didn't really want a lion to be found. The client had hunted with Toufic many times before...he knew the area and the general drill but had never hunted lion before.

In simple terms, I think that if we (with Idrissa) could call the shots we could have found a shootable male in our time there. We would have had two good opportunities without really trying.

First, was the wounded roan that Wink killed. We checked on the dead roan the next day and found the tracks of one female and one very big male. The lions had eaten about half the roan and were probably sleeping within 200 yards of where we were. I think we would have better than even odds of finding them. JP and his PH knew about the roan kill and tracks but never even went to check on it.

Second, we saw vultures in a tree and went to investigate. It looked like two male lions had made a kill and the tracks were smoking hot. We didn't hang around and certainly didn't go looking for trouble but I think we could have found those lions pretty quickly. JP and Toufic knew about this find but JP and his PH never went back to check it out.

Idrissa and his #1 tracker could track a lion in that sandy soil for sure. The high grass would have complicated matters and that's why I said I would book a lion hunt to start no earlier than late January. When it's that hot and there's limited shade I don't think a lion is going to stray far from it's kill for an afternoon nap.

We saw fresh lion tracks on the road virtually every day. We only saw one live lion...a female staking out a waterhole...but we didn't go looking for them either.

Toufic gets 2 lion permits per year. They get killed every year for all I know. I don't know what the success rate is for a given hunter.

I know this answer probably raises more questions than it answers for you. I came away with a lot of puzzling questions about the lion hunt as well. This is the best response I can offer.


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There are some interesting observations on lion hunting in Burkina Faso in African Hunter II.

In brief, the respondent reports that the quota is far too high. And that hunting very late in the season, when the grass is short, and the water is scarce, is best.

Apparently, also very interesting to me, is the notion, reported as fact, that many, if not most, males, even old males, are nearly maneless. This seems to be a common trait among West African lion.

Odd thing.


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Great report. One of the most interesting things I found about Burkina Faso was that the crocodiles don't attack humans. I still played it safe and stayed away from the waters edge. beer


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Thank you for an outstanding report with great photography, gentlemen.

One question is still hanging though; What happened with Rachel and her tickets?


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Thank you for an outstanding report with great photography, gentlemen.

One question is still hanging though; What happened with Rachel and her tickets?


Toufic has a system for purchasing drinks with booklets of coupons you are supposed to pre-purchase. All of your drinks are in fact pre-paid and each time you are served a coke or tonic you are supposed to give Rachel a coupon, or "ticket". We tended to be one booklet in arrears with this system, not really understanding it the first days, running up a certain number of drinks on credit. But yes, in the end Rachel did get her tickets.


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The "pay for your drinks" feature on western safaris was one of those things I found odd and very different from my other trips to Africa. Unless it was water or coffee you were charged for everything you drank. Even a shot of Masol in your water cost you. I could understand if we were a long way from civilization and everything needed to be flown or shipped in very expensively but not the case here. It definitely would not be a big deal in my decision to hunt western Africa, just a very different custom than one is used to in southern or eastern safaris.

Is this common in central Africa as well?


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Observer or non-hunter rates on Toufic's price list are relatively low and I'm guessing that there are many more non-hunters going to this camp than you might see in a Tanzania tented camp. Hanging around the pool all day, instead of hunting, can make for some pretty thirsty clients. Either way, it's a very small amount in the total for a safari. The coupon system does simplify the accounting, not needing to keep cash for change or run separate tabs for each client. It's easy, on your first day buy a booklet, when you run out of coupons buy another.


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Forrest and Wink,

A great report. It's nice to get such a detailed view into some of the unique hunting destinations.

By the way Forrest, your "tanker" buddy said he would build me a 9.3 just like yours! Well, maybe he didn't say that, but I think it might look at least half as nice. If I'm lucky. Smiler
 
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Wink and Forrest; your photo's and report were excellent, congrats!


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Wink and Forrest two of my AR friends, what a wonderful hunt. I am smiling writing this and will go back and reread it for a second time. Memories are so precious.
Wink Pierre was right, once you hunt buf it is under your skin and have to hunt them again.

The best,

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I, too, reading this report for the second time truly enjoyed your report Wink and ForrestB...I still would like to visit this place and enjoy being in an altogether different kind of place in Africa.

Photos are great and splendid and the report wonderful...Thanks again tu2
 
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Hi William

I feel really ashame not having read this before, I just discover it. Shame as I was supposed to join You in Burkina.
A fantastic report, bringing back plenty of fond memories.
You really have a knack for racounting, and you provide an honest and very vivid report.
On the african hunting forum, Skansen is asking for help for hunting a lion in Burkina. Can You help him
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JB, I sent Skansen a note and suggested that he PM Wink for some background on his hunt. I am sure Wink would be happy to help. Hope all is good with you.


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Great report. Man that 9.3X64 oozes class!


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I'll be there in 2 weeks....report to follow :-)
 
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JB, I sent Skansen a note and suggested that he PM Wink for some background on his hunt. I am sure Wink would be happy to help. Hope all is good with you.


skansen did PM me and I replied. Networking is what AR is all about.


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Hi William

I feel really ashame not having read this before, I just discover it. Shame as I was supposed to join You in Burkina.
A fantastic report, bringing back plenty of fond memories.
You really have a knack for racounting, and you provide an honest and very vivid report.
On the african hunting forum, Skansen is asking for help for hunting a lion in Burkina. Can You help him
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Jean-Bernard,

It would have been good to have you with us. We had a great time.


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Forrest and Wink, what a pleasure to read to AR friends on safari together. The best to you both.

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Great photos. Good report.
 
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This intrigues me. I may reconsider my decision to never hunt Africa again.


What languages does Toufic speak?

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This intrigues me. I may reconsider my decision to never hunt Africa again.


What languages does Toufic speak?

George


French and Arabic for sure, probably Moshi and Gourmanche as well.


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I speak English, Greek, and Spanish.

It sounds like communication would be problematic.

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