Cape Buffalo this one was not with a muzzleloader!

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15 February 2007, 06:02

madabula

Cape Buffalo this one was not with a muzzleloader!

Correction!

Well I sort of buggered this one up! Just now figured out how to edit!

My buddy Sam shot this Cape Buffalo last summer. Hunting with Madubula Safaris.

You can read his story at:A World Class Rhodes Buffalo

You can see more of Sam's accomplishments at:
Sam's trophies

He had originally wanted to use a muzzleloader but decided against it. He was close enough to have used one and was so satisfied with the hunt he went back this year and took several new SCI #1 black powder animals. Those stories are not yet up on the site!

Mike

15 February 2007, 17:43

1115

Unless I read it totally wrong, the story says the bull was shot with a 375 H&H and not a muzzleloader. Still a damned good bull though.

15 February 2007, 19:28

Buglemintoday

I think he sent the wrong link.

But I think Jim Shockey had taken a Cape Buff as well with a Muzzleloader. Not something you hear very often

15 February 2007, 19:57

DC300

Archery is why we invented black powder. Black powder is why we invented smokeless powder.

Those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it.

15 February 2007, 21:09

Bill/Oregon

Guessing that Shockey did it with a plastic-stocked, stainless inline with scope, shotgun primer, Pyrodex pellets and saboted slug. While some may call this muzzleloading, many do not.

15 February 2007, 22:22

SGraves155

Bill, well put.

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16 February 2007, 00:15

GaryL

quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Guessing that Shockey did it with a plastic-stocked, stainless inline with scope, shotgun primer, Pyrodex pellets and saboted slug. While some may call this muzzleloading, many do not.

I don't do any sort of muzzle loading and share your point, but you have to admit it is a lot slower on the follow-up shot and while Mr. Shockey had back-up (dahh..)that buf he took was close and many others were as close on three sides of him.
G

16 February 2007, 00:55

Walker

Doc White did it too, but with one of his own inlines, percussion cap, big lead conical and no scope.

16 February 2007, 03:40

Tembo

quote:
Originally posted by DC300:
Archery is why we invented black powder. Black powder is why we invented smokeless powder

Here we go again

16 February 2007, 05:52

Troy Hibbitts

the one shockey shot with a muzzleloader was shot with an inline, and late in the day. When they went into the thick stuff after it, they did so with the truck and shockey (and the PH) followed it up with a regular centerfire rifle (I think shockey a 375 H&H and the guide a 458 Mag or 470NE - don't recall which).

Troy

16 February 2007, 06:00

SGraves155

And he'll claim it in some record book somewhere, and sell the story to one or more mags. One more animal killed so he can make big bucks, and perhaps appease his ego.

16 February 2007, 07:23

yellowstone

Well I hate in-lines as if anyone really cared what I thought, but Tony Knight almost single handedly change the "scope" of muzzleloading over the past 15 years or so. I have an acquaintance in Ft. Collins who has killed buffalo, leopard, and elephant with traditional muzzleloaders and NO backup. 8 bore for the buff and 4 bore for the elephant. Foolish? Perhaps, but he did it the old way and could care less about the record books. Shocky is an entertaining writer (not author) and seems like a likeable fellow. He just found his nitch in the modern hunting world.

16 February 2007, 16:44

skb

yellowstone,
would that gents name be jim? Hes a nice guy. Must have a big set of brass balls too. His story kind of inspired me to give it a go with a single shot cartridge gun. He built those guns too.
Steve

16 February 2007, 18:16

Walker

The inline design is over 100 years old. Knight just made them popular. There is absolutely zero performance difference between an inline and a sidelock. The difference is the new powders, bullets, plastic sabots and modern ignition components. You don't have to use any of that stuff unless you choose to.

16 February 2007, 19:00

Tumbleweed

Well, that does it.

Come Monday, I'm gonna go kill me one with a Swiss Army knife, and another one on Tuesday with a 9 iron.

I figure by about Friday, I should be ready to take one with a Q-Tip.

16 February 2007, 21:10

Buglemintoday

Tumbleweed-

They ain't that hard to kill with a Q-tip! Just go right for their ears

16 February 2007, 22:24

Tembo

quote:
Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
Well, that does it.

Come Monday, I'm gonna go kill me one with a Swiss Army knife, and another one on Tuesday with a 9 iron.

You might want to use a driver for that. Wouldn't want anybody on this board accusing you of a "stunt hunt."

16 February 2007, 23:46

GaryL

quote:
Originally posted by Troy Hibbitts:
the one shockey shot with a muzzleloader was shot with an inline, and late in the day. When they went into the thick stuff after it, they did so with the truck and shockey (and the PH) followed it up with a regular centerfire rifle (I think shockey a 375 H&H and the guide a 458 Mag or 470NE - don't recall which).

We must have seen different episodes. The one I saw needed no follow-up. Dropped instantly with a new hole in between his eyes.
Gary

Troy

17 February 2007, 00:49

luv2safari

Shockey and the PH had to shoot the wounded buffalo from the safari car in tall grass...

I believe I've done'em one better. I killd a "Wild Turkey" with nothing but a chipped glass...

17 February 2007, 00:49

fairchase

quote:
Guessing that Shockey did it with a plastic-stocked, stainless inline with scope, shotgun primer, Pyrodex pellets and saboted slug. While some may call this muzzleloading, many do not.

Both the NMLRA and SCI call it muzzleloading, because the powder and bullet are loaded down the muzzle, what it can't be call is traditional reenacting.

BTW, I have seen video of two other Cape Buffalo killed by Shockey that did not require a back-up shot by either himself or his PH.

17 February 2007, 05:07

SGraves155

Mike, getting back on topic, that is some really fine taxidermy. I really like those pedestal mounts. Excellent work.

17 February 2007, 17:07

KSTEPHENS

im gonna kill one with a snooker ball dropped in a wool sock.

17 February 2007, 23:25

Jarrod

quote:
Originally posted by Tembo:
quote:
Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
Well, that does it.

Come Monday, I'm gonna go kill me one with a Swiss Army knife, and another one on Tuesday with a 9 iron.

You might want to use a driver for that. Wouldn't want anybody on this board accusing you of a "stunt hunt."

18 February 2007, 04:08

TSJ

quote:
KSTEPHENS
one of us
Posted 17 February 2007 17:07 Hide Post
im gonna kill one with a snooker ball dropped in a wool sock.

Do you use the wool sock so you can call it traditional hunting? is there a differant record book if you use a cotton/polyester blend?

21 February 2007, 10:02

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
Well, that does it.

Come Monday, I'm gonna go kill me one with a Swiss Army knife, and another one on Tuesday with a 9 iron.

I figure by about Friday, I should be ready to take one with a Q-Tip.

Sorry, but you won'r be the first one to kill one of the big five with a pocket knife.

Wolhuter (sp) did it in grand style.

A lion attacked him and was carrying him by the shoulder. He remembered he had a pocket knife in his pockt.

He got it out, and felt between the lions rips, ans stuck it in.

The lion died, and he lived to tell the tale.

And when he went o England, he went to the shop that made that knife, as he wanted to buy a few for his friends.

He told the shop assisstant that they were very good knives, and that he had killed a lion with one.

The answer was "oh yeah"!