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As many know, my dad and I had a very successful safari in Zimbabwe last September where we took two Cape buffalo, two kudu, two impala one warthog and one blue wildebeest. Finally got the shipping quote from Freight Consultants in Bulawayo to an "airport in NY". Flora and Fauna will be our "broker" here. Shipping: $1,343.40 for my dads (1 buf, 1 kudu, 1 impala, 1 warthog, 1 wildebeest). $1,187.64 for mine (1 buf, 1 kudu, 1 impala). Does this sound about right to those who have been there and done that before? NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | ||
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Paul, I had two buff bulls, one buff cow, impala ram, and baboon sent back from Zim... Had capes & skulls sent back on everything but cow (skull only)...couple of hooves and backskins as well... Total tab -- $1,200... ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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That about sounds right. This shipment had wildebeest, zebra, impala, and warthog. Only question is why not have your stuff and your dad's in one crate to save money? Here is a recent charge and breakdown. 2010- Zimbabwe to Baltimore (Air) Chargeable Weight 111.5kgs $1066.00 The breakdown was Air Bulawayo to Joberg 189.55 Air Joberg to Baltimore 484.68 Documentation Fee 50.00 Communication Fee 10.00 Airline Handling fee 20.00 Agency Fee to Shipping Company 129.14 Fees collected on behalf of Maple Freight 200.00 In transit permit fee 20.00 Insurance Premium 16.50 The danger of civilization, of course, is that you will piss away your life on nonsense | |||
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I think it is a rip off! Now, having said that, I just sent them $2600. to ship buffalo, wilde, zebra, water buck, bush buck, impala and sable so seven animals similar to yours and close the the same rip off amount! | |||
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Thanks for the responses everyone. To address the question of shipping them in a single crate - i was told because the original paper work had him taking some and I taking some of the game, they can't be shipped as a single shipment. The crates have to document the "taker". I guess better to just go with it given the proces seem about right than to argue and risk losing the trophies. Thanks again, Paul NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Why don't you have them quote you a rate for ocean freight? | |||
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For Importing here into the states that isn't true, you CAN have both Safaris in on crate as long as the papers for each hunter accompanies the crate. Whomever is shipping the crates don't know what they are talking about. We get combined shipments all the time. Jerry Huffaker State, National and World Champion Taxidermist | |||
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I second what Jeff said about combining the shipments. It is often quoted as a requirement by the US, which could be further from the truth. My buddies and I have used combined shipments from SA and Zim with no problem. More often than not I have had to prod the taxidermist and or shipping agent but in the end all was well and costs were less and split amongst two. The danger of civilization, of course, is that you will piss away your life on nonsense | |||
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I have got about 4 different safaris send in all together from Zim. no problem to europe diego | |||
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I think I have used "combined" shipments everytime I've hunted Africa when with another person or three. Jerry is right on. You should check this out further before giving in to the shipper. Most likely more beneficial to them without regards to what is best for YOU? Larry Sellers SCI Life Member | |||
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That seems high to me. I would expect that to be about right for the total including Flora and Fauna's brokerage fees but you are probably stuck paying it. | |||
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Again, thannk you for some insight. I have sent an email to the freight company requesting a new and hopefully lower quote for shippment in a single crate. Will let you know and thanks again, Paul NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Get quotes from other companies. You are just asked to get screwed other wise. Good luck NRA LIFE MEMBER DU DIAMOND SPONSOR IN PERPETUITY DALLAS SAFARI CLUB LIFE MEMBER SCI FOUNDATION MEMBER | |||
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My 7/09 Save Trophies are enroute now;$1800 for Lion,Buff, Eland, Hyena, Waterbuck,Wildebeeste,Zebra, Impala, Giraffe backskin. Harare to Seattle. Will still have Seattle to Great Falls as additional charge.It's what it is. Jim | |||
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Tell that story to John or Matt at F&F. They will advise you. The export shippers use that same lame line everytime they can get away with it. As Jerry stated, you can ship 10 hunters trophies in one crate as long as each hunter has his own paperwork. I bet you and your Father paid for export permits....tell them to do as asked not as they wish. LDK Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Guys, I think you'll find it's more complicated that at first appears. I certainly don't doubt Jerry when he says the US allows import of shared crates but I think you'll find that some African countries don't allow the export of shared crates. The reason for that requirement is largely that they want to ensure they know who to blame should any individual try to export an unlicenced trophy etc and if it's a shared crate, it's harder for them to discover and prove who's to blame. Incidentally, there's always (understandably) a fair bit of debate on shipping and clearance costs etc but you should be aware that one factor is that the US have different pricing structures depending on port of entry....... Frankly, I was unaware of that until I watched a DVD we've just started selling here: http://www.shakariconnection.c...ng-trophies-dvd.html and it's one of the many subjects covered in that...... it's a great DVD BTW and even though I've been in the business for 30 years, even I learned a thing or two from it. | |||
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Anyway to buy and pay for a copy of this DVD without having to go through a third party internet site to pay for it? | |||
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FWIW I just got my bill today. Capes and skulls have arrived at International Freight Systems, Seattle, and are in transit UPS to Atcheson's in Butte, Mt. Total bill is $1969.08---------and don't forget the 8 cents!!!!  What came across the pond from Maun, Botswana to Joberg to Atlanta to Seattle to Butte was Cape Eland Gemsbok Blue Wildebeeste Kudu Wart Hog in a damn big crate along with Wilson the volleyball  Apparently it was sidetracked to Atlanta because of the pig. Hmmmmmmmm I was sidetracked in Atlanta once because of a pig.  | |||
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My most recent shipments from Africa had to be shipped separate from my partners. One shipment was from Tanzania '06 and the other was from Namibia '09. I was told that F&W can get better prosecutions with only one persons items in a crate. Before my '06 hunt I had done three other shipments, together with my hunting partner. DRSS Searcy 470 NE | |||
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I paid $1850.00 for my shipment from Windhoek to Chicago. It contained 1 x Kudu skull, hide and back skin, 1 x Gemsbok skull and hide, 1 x Zebra skin, 1 x Warthog skull, 1 x Baboon skull, 1 x Springbok skull, hide and back skin, and 1 hand carved teak table. | |||
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My son and I got our shipment back about 2 wks. ago. We had it shipped together. We had the taxidermy done at highveld, in RSA. The crate held: 2 zebra skin rugs 7 tanned back skins 11 euro plaque mts. 1 kudu shoulder mt. Shipping was done by OXI logistics, Pretoria. Clearing was done in Chicago by D&L CBH All in, including air freight, and shipping to my home was $1605. My half, $802 and change. I was VERY happy. Mad Dog | |||
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I had a combined shipment for 5 hunters with 22 animals, skulls, horns, backskins, etc. 3 Mtn Zebra 3 Kudu 2 Eland 6 Gemsbok 2 blesbok 3 Blue Wildebeest 1 - Impala 1- Red Hartebeest 1- warthog Total bill for all was Customs Charge 751 Freight(includes dip and pack) 7467 Cartage 55 Inland Freight 980.98 Fedex 3 Customs exam 43 Handling 50 Fish and Wildlife 111 Total 9461.96 Total 1892 per hunter shipped to tannery. | |||
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1 lion, skull and skin 3 cape buff, 3 skulls and 2 capes 1 bush buck cape and skull 1 Waterbuck cape and skull 1 Zebra Hide 1 Puku skull and cape $1,867.00 I figured this was average from what ya'll have printed. Dutch | |||
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In looking at my air bill I notice that gross weight for the two crates equals 107.5 kg's, or 230 olbs. freight for that weight on Swiss Air is $1,357.00. Other charges equaled $495.42. Those charges were DBC: $20.00; AWA: $10.00; LGC: $143.00; SCC #18.28; MYC: $69.88 and TXC: $244.26. Anyone hazard a guess as to what the above charges were for? With a $10.00 rebate they came to $495.42. Don't know why a $10.00 rebate. Dutch | |||
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Two crates, 165kg total, was ~$2050 Zim to Alaska. Just picked it up today!!!!  DRSS "If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?" "PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!" | |||
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What was the breakdown (i.e. what animals/quantities?) | |||
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Luis, tusks, elephant skin, two feet, and kudu, impala, and waterbuck skulls. Considering the distance and weight, $2k didn't seem too outrageous. Bob DRSS "If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?" "PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!" | |||
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So far I have $3700 into my seven skulls and backskins via Bulawayo/Dallas in two crates at 409 lbs. Still to come is ground freight/insurance so I am certain to have just in excess of $4,000 in the seven animals before tanning/taxidermy and SOMEONE said hunting Africa was much cheaper than North America - yeah right! Can't wait to DO IT AGAIN!! | |||
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