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12 October 2012, 20:22
john113wyo
For you big bore lovers
Don't carry your .475 or .500 Linebaugh or S&W .500 for self-defense in Oklahoma Wink

§21-1290.6. Prohibited ammunition.
PROHIBITED AMMUNITION
Any concealed handgun when carried in a manner authorized by the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, Sections 1 through 25 of this act, when loaded with any ammunition which is either a restricted bullet as defined by Section 1289.19 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes or is larger than .45 caliber or is otherwise prohibited by law shall be deemed a prohibited weapon for purposes of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be punished for a criminal offense as provided by Section 1272 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes or any other applicable provision of law. In addition to any criminal prosecution for a violation of the provisions of this section, the licensee shall be subject to an administrative fine of Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00), upon a hearing and determination by the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation that the person is in violation of the provisions of this section.
Added by Laws 1995, c. 272, § 6, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.


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13 October 2012, 01:53
akalinin
This bit of tom-foolery needs to be overturned. Reads like the start of a hysterical 50 cal ban to me.
14 October 2012, 00:21
lal
You guys think thats bad, in SA we are not allowed to lisense a 44 Magnum for Self Protection anymore!! Our government knows best....
14 October 2012, 16:07
p dog shooter
I wonder what the history behind this is.
23 October 2012, 09:34
Norman Conquest
O.K. for what it's worth.Here in Texas a few years back we had what was known as the "Blue Law".Basically merchants could not sell certain products on Sunday (+ we're not talking liquor).General consensise was "Fxxk em,they can't arrest us all."Merchants stayed open + they changed the law.I do understand the differences here as merchants bring in tax$$$ while we as citizens have much less clout.Just throwing this thread out there for others to ponder as well.
25 October 2012, 02:21
drewhenrytnt
Interesting options for Oklahoma.

45WinMag

Ruger Alaskan 454 "snub"

44 Automag


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25 October 2012, 05:00
boom stick
The 2A is not about self defense or hunting as the anti's paint it to be but for when the govt asserts it knows best at the cost of our liberty. This should be tossed out and let the people decide what is best for them.


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29 October 2012, 17:26
mmassey338
It says either a restricted bullet or greater than 45 caliber. What are the restricted bullets to which it refers?
30 October 2012, 19:05
thecanadian
In the laws defense, are they worried about over penetration? A 500 S&W would certainly not be my CC choice for that particular reason.


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31 October 2012, 17:33
p dog shooter
Missed rounds are more of a problem then over penetration ever was.

I would like to hear of a case where a round hit the perp. Then went on through to hit some else.

By standers are almost always hit by rounds that missed their target.
01 November 2012, 09:58
Antelope Sniper
P dog, during that recent incidnet in NYC where the cops shot that guy, and 9or 10 people in the crowd behind him, I belive the by standers were hit by both clean misses, and through-and-throughs.
01 November 2012, 16:14
p dog shooter
I haven't seen any break down of the shots.

Do you have any ref or report of where the shots went.

Considering there was a large percentage of misses in that shooting.
01 November 2012, 19:33
Antelope Sniper
It was from a news report, that I believe was posted on another thread. It mentioned how some bystanders were hit with complete bullets, and others were hit with partial bullets, giving me the impression they may of been through and throughs. Due to all the pending lawsuits, NYC hasn't been all that forth cominig with information.
02 November 2012, 02:58
p dog shooter
I thought the partial bullets were from hitting the cement planter and side walk.
02 November 2012, 11:51
Antelope Sniper
quote:
I thought the partial bullets were from hitting the cement planter and side walk.


That's certainly possible, I'm just not sure I belive that explination.
27 January 2013, 08:11
john113wyo
quote:
Originally posted by mmassey338:
It says either a restricted bullet or greater than 45 caliber. What are the restricted bullets to which it refers?


Possession of a Teflon coated bullet ie KTW AP will net you a felony conviction.

TITLE 21 § 1289.19. Restricted bullet and body armor defined
RESTRICTED BULLET AND BODY ARMOR DEFINED
As used in Sections 1289.20 through 1289.22 of this title and Section 2 of this act:
1. “Restricted bullet” means a round or elongated missile with a core of less than sixty percent (60%) lead and having a fluorocarbon coating, which is designed to travel at a high velocity and is capable of penetrating body armor; and


"It ain't lion hunting unless you get stitches." - John in WYO

"It became aquatic, briefly." Ann ~ Aspen Hill Adventures

The bear has to touch you to hurt you. Don’t let the bear touch you.
27 January 2013, 17:37
p dog shooter
quote:
“Restricted bullet” means a round or elongated missile with a core of less than sixty percent (60%) lead and having a fluorocarbon coating, which is designed to travel at a high velocity and is capable of penetrating body armor; and



Thats real clear isn't it covers all copper type bullets unless they are design to travel at low veocity.

So if I drill out a JHP place a pointed steel core in it thats only 39 percent of the lead core by weight drive it at 2000 fps I still be ok.
27 January 2013, 22:01
Peter
Er, I hate to mention this but isn't Oklahoma a Red state ie. run by your buddies, not by the liberal, pinko, commie Democrats? What gives? Where is the NRA when you need 'em? There must be some rationale, but I guess whatever it is it must be OK?
Let me add that I am aware that this is not the PF, but I want to point out that consistency implies that we have the same reaction to "cop killer" bullets no matter who proposes it. Same with 50 cal bullets!
Peter.


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