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<JHook> |
Hey Einstein go out to the country and call in to your "Humane Service" that you have a "abandoned cat" problem, that is if you learn how to spell it, and see what they tell you to do, when they stop laughing that is. Go ahead you city bred rat, make the call. Then see if the county will reimburse you for your dead chickens. And in your CITY PARADISE animal control MAY come out, that is maybe, and never within a week, and if they do catch the cat , which they wont ; But, Say they do, they will just end up throwing them in a gas chamber anyway. Personaly I'll save the dime and just shoot the sons-a-bitches.........J [This message has been edited by JHook (edited 03-27-2002).] | ||
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Most animals not indigenous to an area are usually a threat to other animals in that area. Norway rats, starlings, English sparrows, wild dogs, wild hogs, and feral cats have done more damage than some of these "aminal luvers" will ever even care to know. Combine this with the over-protection of predators such as the raptors, causing an overpopulation of red-tailed hawks and the great horned owl, and you have severely deplenished native wildlife populations. I personally have cats for mouse and rat And as for the statement that dogs cannot A feral pussy can have two litters a year. | |||
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Genghis: You need to stop and think about what your posting. You are not annonymous. Your ISP can be identified and so can you. Threatening to shoot Buster for whatever reason can be intrerpreted as a "terroristic threat" and could very well cause you to be arrested, (should Buster choose to pursue it) and the possible loss of your firearm priveledges forever. So you don't like Busters treatment of cats. SO WHAT. Threats and people that make them do not belong on this board, and I'll leave it at that. ------------------ | |||
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<.> |
PA Frank, et al . . . You need to Shepardize the starre decisis on the legal distinction between a constructively directed threat and the expression of a personal sentiment. For starters. While you're in the law library . . Have a look at statutes regarding the definition and protection of domestic animals. ------------------ | ||
<gone hunting> |
quote: i teach a CCW class mandated by my state for the right to carry concealed and the use of deadly force ------------------ | ||
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Oh, and we have to leave PETA out of this, too. The official PETA position is that feral cats should be humanely "euthanized" to prevent unacceptable damage to native fauna. I submit that "humanely" constitutes using no less than a centerfire....... FWIW, Dutch. | |||
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Sheister, your remark about equating shooting A feral cat to killing all the cats in a neigborhood sounds good and reasonable until you read the post where folks talk about killing the farmers cat if he isn't next to a barn and the various suggestions as to how to kill a cat with maximum cruelty, etc. I think the folks that made those post are the sick ones. One poster said "cats kill when they aren't hungry" (or words to that effect) as if that was some sort of indictment. Seems the cat and the human are more alike than different. Danno, how do you train your barn cats to hunt field rats but not rabbits???? If I get a new cat that shows an interest in chickens or birds, I put it in a cage with a bantie hen with biddies. When I let it out, it isn't interested in any type of birds. I think the proliferation of coyotes are going to take care of any feral cat or dog problems we have. | |||
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Gentlemen, The beauty of the three "s" system becomes ever more clear the more you have to deal with this element. Regards, Matt. [This message has been edited by Matt in Virginia (edited 03-28-2002).] | |||
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I know I've posted a few times about shots I've had on cats but I think from now on I'll keep it to myself. No need to get things stirred up to the point that laws maybe passed to protect ferral cats. Chris | |||
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<JHook> |
Matt, and I speak from some experience, its the guys who DONT threaten that you have to worry about. This guys a big pussy, forgettaboutit! Besides you have to know who someone is in order to threaten him. You cant threaten a computer! He doesnt know you, who you are, where you live, in legal terms hes threatening a lighted screen in front of him. Im not defending this pussy, but lets move past this "threaten & Lawsuit" crap! I hear enough of that at work!.................J | ||
<gone hunting> |
quote: look down in the lower right corner of each post - see the little IP: logged ------------------ | ||
<.> |
quote: ONE MORE TIME, in words you're likely to comprehend: Law makes a substantial distinction between "directed threat" and "statement of sentiment." . . . and while you're poring over your dictionary . . . look up "hyperbole." It's NOT "sport," and you seem to include yourself in the term "Gentlemen." That may be a traditional, Southern, culturally determined salutation. But I find it presumptuous. ------------------ | ||
<.> |
quote: Interesting feline allusion going on in this one . . . hmmmmmm. Probably a mysogenist AND pathological, sadistic animal abuser. Let's spell it out here: A legally probative "threat" needs to be directed AT someone. YES, if it's directed AT a person online it constitutes a legally constucted threat. "John Doe! I'm gonna kill you!" is a probative threat. "I'm gonna kill John Doe!" is a probative threat -- even if the person making the statement does not know John Doe personally, his whereabouts, his identity, etc. The fact that "John Doe" is a person and the threat is directed at him is sufficient for prosecution. Posting online that one intends to "kill John Doe" is prosecutable. NOW . . . "I shoot people who pick their nose!" is NOT a probative threat insofar as it's directed at a broad, general class of persons engaging in a generalized behavior. Even if "John Doe" is a "nose picker," the threat is NOT necessarily directed AT "John Doe" inasmuch as "John Doe" has the option of NOT engaging in "nose picking" and thereby NOT being identified as belonging to a general class of persons engaged in a broad, general class of behavior. Additionally, someone making such a statement (It's not a "threat.") may or may not view "John Doe" as belonging to that specified group of persons. In order to be viewed as a "threat" the action MUST be directed AT a specific person and NOT at a generalized group in which that person may be included. In logic this is viewed as deductive exclusion. "A" MAY include "B," but "B" is NOT necessarily included in "A." As examples: A square is a rectangle, but not all rectangles are necessarily squares. -- or more specifically . . . John Doe MAY be a nose picker. BUT a generalized group of nose pickers do not necessarily include John Doe. I know . . . Thinking is hard when you're stupid, marginally literate, and unable to read closely. ------------------ | ||
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geeez, I didn't realize how many sleazy, shit house lawyers frequented this room. Kinda makes me ashamed of being in here with you. And I thought I was in here with real folks. Anyone that threatens legal action because of a chat room post is not insane but is a simple, stupid jerk. A typical slacker that's looking for some "free money" with the mentallity of the droolers that stand around waiting for the gov'ment to look after them. Disgusting! | |||
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geeez, I didn't realize how many sleazy, shit house lawyers frequented this room. Kinda makes me ashamed of being in here with you. And I thought I was in here with real folks. Anyone that threatens legal action because of a chat room post is not insane but is a simple, stupid jerk. A typical slacker that's looking for some "free money" with the mentallity of the droolers that stand around waiting for the gov'ment to look after them. Disgusting! I guess when folks ask can they hunt on my property, I'll have to start asking them how they feel about cats. If they come up with some of the rabid shit like I've read in here, I'll send them down the road. | |||
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Gentlemen, It would appear the halfwit has a dictionary. Will have to see about acquiring one of those to counter his bewildering intellect. Regards, Matt. Btw, would concur with the three "S" rule regarding feral and free roaming feline disposal, as we seem to be sharing bandwidth with the children. Poorly mannered little buggers at that... | |||
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[This message has been edited by Matt in Virginia (edited 03-30-2002).] | |||
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My final answer: I follow PETA's policy...... After all, I'm an animal lover. My policy implementation tools are a 6ppc and a shovel. Dutch. | |||
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<sure-shot> |
Definitely an amusing thread, all the cats I have killed were feral, way out in the sticks and it was a hoot blasting em! Well gotta go, don't wa | ||
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quote: Why would I attempt to train one of those Coyotes won't even think about messing with | |||
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Danno, That post reminds me of something my brother and I did as kids. We had this big old buck french lop named Norman that was super horney. Out of curiousity, we stuck our tomcat in the cage with him. The cat didn't like Norman mounting him at all. He just cowered in the corner while Norman racheted away. Very amusing. I wonder if the cat ever hunted wild rabbits after that. Chris | |||
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Genghis....you.....you....LAWYER!! All dat babble o' yous makes me wanna gets a gun and go shoots some o' dem ferel cats! Maybe, i'll gets my cussin (who'ds also my bruther) an den we ken kilt a hole bunch at da same time......LOL! I guess i will never be able to understand what little value you place on human life. I truely feel sorry for people such as yourself. mike | |||
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Genghis: While I understand your feelings, I question your actions. I too, have been attacked for a general comment here, not focused at anyone. However, one could argue that yours was at a particular poster. I would have a long look at Federal Law on the use of telephone lines for threatening people, and, reconsider your comments. Your own state statutes might also have such a law, Kalifornia does. I understand the affection some have for certain animals, but, you might also look at the other side of the coin, that, in the man made circumstances of this world, what shouldn't be a problem, becomes one. I have a friend that was attacked by a wolf. While I want to see both spieces continue, our government's ability to much up conservation efforts is truly amazing. Cats are prolific, and, can destroy the balance of an eco system, if they are wild, and uncontrolled. Perhaps a bit less emotion, and an understanding of the problems that poor pet owners create would be a better position? gs ------------------ | |||
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<wrangler> |
Just a thought on the CO method: not exactly positive but am pretty sure that any of the newer model vehicles have limited CO in their exhaust, plus there is additional oxygen from the cat converter (sorry). Please try to use a more humane method such as a 1979 GMC 3/4 ton 350 running on six out of eight. | ||
<X-Ring> |
You guys gotta kinda wonder about these people how thinks terible to kill a feral cat, but it's ok to take human life. The priorities are a little screwd up I think! X-Ring ------------------ | ||
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Genghis, that is the most dumb a^* notion I have ever heard. You honestly think that you could get away with shooting someone for killing cats? well let me let you in on a bit of advice, chances are if you get realy mad at someone for killing cats, do you realy think no one but the 2 of you will be in on the coversation? I dont know about the others but I never hunt alone be it cats or Bears. You MAY get me, if your dumb enough to try, but what would that get you? either A, in jail, B, shot. then thrown in jail or C, shot dead. Do you realy feel like dying over a stupid cat??? | |||
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<waldog> |
Had a farmer last fall ask a budddy and I to stop by sometime (when the family wasn't home) and thin the barnyard cats. He was serious enough that he told us when they would be gone and even left a 50gal barrel "for deposit only!" 17 kitty's later we had done are duty, had a little fun, left a few for seed, and secured our antelope spot for yet another season. Now he wants us to work on his piegons a bit when we return.... | ||
<Hunter - DownUnder> |
"A feral cat" is one thats ouside it's owners yard.... It's just a shame that I rather shoot my 6.5 than my .22lr. Can't be too careful when your prey has 9 lives. | ||
<waldog> |
Almost forgot! In my town there are almost NO stray, free-roaming, or otherwise ferral cats! There usted to be plenty of them.... then gradually wild fox began too relocate into the city. Hence no more free roaming cats! And I might add, fewer cats altogether. It's a hard deal to beat. Another note worthy aspect of our healthy fox population is that they do a good job of picking off most wounded ducks and geese in the city parks and golf courses each fall. | ||
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quote: Is that your obfuscatory way of admitting that you're full of shit? | |||
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<Bruce Gordon> |
It is too bad that you can't sell cat skins in the fur trade. Bet that would take care of the excess animals who are worth more money dead than alive. This thread has been going on long enough that it is time for me to get out the live trap and thin out the local population of excess cats. It is amazing how many feral cats there are for every house pet. Fighting and breeding has been going on outside for the last several nights. Ruins my sleep, too. Of course there is the mandatory dog barking for hours on end. Pretty soon I am going to take an evening to find out just where all the noise is coming from. Too bad it isn't socially acceptable to "do away with" dogs that bark for hours on end. Maybe it is the owner who needs a bit of attitude correction. For all I know the dog could be barking at all the feral cats. Now there would be a sad story. A perfectly good dog gets in trouble for scaring away all the wild cats. | ||
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quote: Bruce, Funny you mention that. I had to have a talk with a neighbor about that very thing! It was his cats that kept his dog barking all night! He decided that the cats had to go...LOL! The dog is still there but hardly barks now.... mike | |||
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<webwolf111> |
I don't know if any of you guy's have ever tried it , but the way we handle cats around home (and we get alot of em) is trap em then take em out to the woods . Take your shotgun and your varmint rifle along . Find a clearing , tie the cat in the middle of it . Get your shotgun ready as this will bring crows in great numbers . Crows hate em . At this point it's just a matter of what runs out first , shotgun shells , crows or cats . At any rate when your ready , get your rifle out and give the a reasonable head start . | ||
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You people make me sick! You are all pussy haters! | |||
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<Bruce Gordon> |
Oh no, you have it all wrong. I love pussy. Yum Yum. Fried Pussy, Baked Pussy, Chile Pussy, Smothered Pussy, Pussy Pot Pie, Pussy legs smothered in gravy, Makes me hungry just thinking of all the ways to serve good pussy | ||
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quote: Don't forget "plucked" and stuffed with meat! | |||
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When I was 12 years old we watched a neighbor down the street swerve across the street coming on our side of the road to run over a cat that belonged to his sister. We got off our bikes picked up the cat out of the road and buried it. It was sad because this guy was a real jerk and he smiled as he drove by. I think the smiling stopped when 6 years later when one night we put a couple 8mm French Lebel steel AP rounds into the block via the radiator of his then new BMW 318i! Just remember don't leave any witnesses because paybacks can be hell. Busa Dave | |||
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I believe I have killed well over 1000 cats in the past 40yrs. Now I'm beginning to have second thoughts...should have shot the ones with collars too. Interesting note...I once shot a cat that posed beside the road one night when I was on the way home from deer hunting. Blue lights quickly were front and rear and the rabbit sherrifs set about finding the "deer". Upon finding the tabby I was told since it was not a game animal, the NCWRC has no cause of action and I was released with the advice to never miss so as not to be confused with poachers. seems the high rabbit sherrif was a bird hunter. Also I never like putting cats in plastic bags to dispose. They just look much more natural as road kills around the animal control property which is not far from here. Dead cats should not be overlooked for they can be a great benefit to wingshooters. A dead cat on a country road will attract many crows. Haven't tried it but I hear tainted cat flesh makes good catfish bait. | |||
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From another thread: Cat goes on rampage in Nova Scotia, evicts owners "Earlier in the afternoon, the cat had attacked the babysitter," police Sgt. Don Spicer told Reuters. "The residents went to check on the cat and, essentially, the cat went crazy on them as well. "It attacked the father and ripped his pants as well as the flesh underneath," Spicer said. It took police officers, armed with a blanket and a clothes hamper, 20 minutes to corner the cat. Spicer said Cocoa the cat was eventually secured in a pet carrier and handed over to the family who took it to the veterinarian. It was not yet known what caused the cat's frenzy. "We've been called to deal with a snake or various animals for one reason for another. But this is the first time that I can recall an actual cat going berserk," Spicer said. Another police officer said Cocoa was "a Siamese cat with an attitude problem." ------------------
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