A swift kick across the room should calm it down.

How would I handle a rambunctious cat? Two words: TREE CHIPPER

By Aim and by Effort

H.T.R.N.

Now THAT'S original High tec. Would love to watch.I hate cats.I feel that they should be reclassified as vermin and put at the top of the list.Trash picking,piss spraying monsters is all they are to me.As for rats and mice,,The feed store has these nifty little blue blocks,,when the blocks are gone,so are they!

just remember never to shut your cat in the clothes dryer - a cat can sh*t seven times its own body weight before you can get the door open.....but the .220 Swift cures all types of feline illness.

Hi Guys,

I usually hang out around the cast bullet room, but the subject title caught my attention. Aside from the strange guy (girl? undetermined? pick a gender?) that joined in, I've found this an interesting exchange.

I just had to add my two bits on CO2 for dispatching animals.

Some twenty years ago, I lived by a chicken farm, that would occasionally have to replace the laying hens as they quit laying.
The way they would dispatch the chickens would be to put all of them in the back of a large enclosed truck, and the exhaust would run into the sealed compartment. They would then drive about 25 miles to the dump, and dispose of them.

One time it didn't work properly for some reason. They arrived at the dump, and unloaded the apparently dead chickens and drove away. Within ten minutes or so, the fresh air had revived the chickens, and there were now thousands of them roaming the dump in competition with the sea gulls.

So be sure they are well gassed.

My favorite cat caliber, by the way, is my 6.5X55 Swede that hangs over the cabin door.

I think you have to live in the boonies to really appreciate the shear number of cats and dogs abandoned in this country every day. Some Mondays I find as many as 2-3 cats and 4-5 dogs, that were not here on Friday!

Last spring, by July 4th., we had 27 cats around our little group of homes, and the county and the humane society(25 miles away) both said sorry, not our problem.

After 1 of the cats scratched and bit my 2 year old grandson, I opened season, and it will never close, till I'm gone in the hole!

Get rid of the problem any way you can , without endangering the public, i.e. live traps or rifle, just try to make it a clean shot.

And for the PETA PUCKERS, TRY WATCHING A 2 YEAR OLD GO THRU A RABBIES BATTERY!

I lived on a ranchette down in Deer Lodge, Mt. a couple of years ago. The town folk would drive to the edge of the city limits and drop off their un-wanted pets. My landlord hated cats and a condition of me staying there was to shoot them on site. Some memorable moments were one Sunday morning on my way to breakfast with the family I 20 gauged a pair under his Bronco. I took the windshield wipers on his Bronco and shoved them up the cat's a$$holes to my wife's amazement and sons laughter. With the custom wipers it shure looked funny since his car was parked out his front window. When we got back from town later that morning I got a note on my door to check the clothes dryer in the meatshop. Needless to say the smell was bad and my wife was pissed from the mess they made from bouncing around in the dryer. I got to clean it up and got a good laugh out of the incident. Another time I chased one under the tool shed. My 7 yr. old son saw me chasing the cat and got our landlord John. He came out with a scoped .280 Ruger. While we were on our hands and knees I saw it and tossed a broken brick under there to scare it out. Needless to say it ran out, John shot and missed and put a hole in his hottub from the richochet. I was laughing so hard he got pissed and put a 20 dollar bounty on the meow cat. With money involved I armed my son with a 10/22 and grabbed my 35 Whelen. A hunting we went.... We found it hiding in the tire pile hunkered down. I gave my son first crack. He hit it midsection and it ran off. With a running shot at 50 yds. I "Whelenized" it with a 250g Hornady RN. It nearly ripped it in half. With a shard of skin holding it together I turned the cat into 2 pieces. My son got the bottom half by the tail and I got the top. We proudly took our trophy in and got our 20 bucks. John was happy with us... the great white hunters. I split the money with my son and gave him 10 dollars. When mom got home from work my son filled her in on the days events. Wife got pissed again for the stupidity of us. My son learning life's lessons fast piped up, " Mom, I got ten dollars. I'll buy us dinner at Mcdonald's so you don't have to cook and do dishes." What a trooper.... The wife fell for it. My wife said," not only is your son acting like you but he's starting to think like you." A chip off the old block......

Kinda brings a tear to your eye.... another dead cat bring a family closer together. Ahhhh, tis a beautiful thing!

On the subject of shooting or otherwise killing pets. In Montana, and most other states, cats and dogs are considered feral if not in control. Shooting is legal. Much as I hate to admit it, I used to herd sheep, and killed alot more feral dogs, many with collars, than any other predator after the flock.

As for people loving pussy, it reminds me of some statistics that came out out about the women of Montana. Three out of ten women in Montana are battered. And here I've been eating themplain for so many years!

Please forgive my sheepherding transgressions, this didn't last long, as I went back to the honorable trade of cowboy after a short stint at this embarrassing job.

I thought I was the only one with a cat problem. I used to have rabbits come under my carport until the lady next door got cats. First it was paw prints on my truck then it was no more rabbits. That one broke the camel's back. Used a 10/22 on the first one. Even though shot in the head it still took 10 shots. Last one I used a 22-250 Ack at 40 yds. Most of the time they would haul tail. This one thought he was one with the grass. Needless to say I smoked his a**. Put the sights on his chest squeezed the trigger and he dissapered. Walked to where he was and had to go another 5 feet to find him. No exit hole but it nocked him into last week. I have no problem with anyone's pets but keep them on your property and in control, if not I'll do my part. A little off subject but we also have a problem with armadillos. Came home the other night had two in the yard. Kept the headlights on them while I went and selected an appropriate tool. Settled on an encore in 45-70 with 405 gr hard cast bullets. Needless to say got the first one and the other took off. Man can they run when they want.

MssMagnum,
If'n ya like that idea, just wait - I'm working on a way to automate the whole shebang... It's going to catch, transport and puree automaticly... Saves me the trouble of having to handle the nasty little things!

By Aim and by Effort

H.T.R.N.

shooting feral cats(or strays or poor little kittys with no place to live) has been one of my favorite pastimes for years. in college we had a problem with cats getting in our trash on the days we would leave it by the street for the city to pick up. we were living in a trailer park on the edge of town so careful shooting was possible. we solved the problem with a few boxes of cb caps and my roommates marlin 39a. lately my rws mod 48 works great! as for live traps, i've found that they are effective. those cats are a lot easier to hit when confined in a small wire box. cheers...bud

Be a sport High Tech,,you're gonna loose a lot of the entertainment value doing it that way! I'll let you use my welding gloves,they're pretty thick. Has anyone watched the "do'nt poke the cat" video clip in here?? I hate cats.

Where is the don't poke the cat video located?

Gotta pass this along, tastless joke of the week.

Know the worst part of having sex with a vegatable?

Getting them back in the wheelchair afterwards.

It's in the humor and videos section ,,,,need to get in through the accuratereloading home page.
Enjoy! I really hate cats.

Claybuster,
Thank you for the offer but I already have welding gloves... Mebbe Instead of the chipper, I'll use a trip wired trebuchet and a concrete block Wall. He flies through the air with the greatest of ease...

By Aim and by Effort

H.T.R.N.

Wow, those tommies are tougher than nails, aren't they? Chest shot one at 200 yards
with my Tactical 20 the other day. Now, the 33gr bullets buzzing along at 4200fps are
made not to go through larger fur-bearing animals, but do the innards some nasty
stuff. This guy was facing me, so there would have been a real mess of the lungs,
diaphram, stomach and upper intestines. Even at that he ran a good fifty yards
before crashing. Even a fox would have dropped sooner than that!

I'am an inveterate cat shooter---having had it instilled in me from my early years on the farm. However, as a father with two beautiful young daughters who go to bed each night holding their kittys [the five- and the 10 year old's is named Cowboy"---and please don't ask me how in the heck she came up with that name!!] I have come to the position that I will not shoot another "feral" cat unless I am absolutely certain it is not someone's pet. Frankly, that eliminates alot of cats as eligible targets. In my very extensive experience cats generally do not range far from civilization [at least the ones I hunted for years in the alfalfa fields of nothern Utah]. The "field lions" [our terminology to give a big-game ambiance to the shoot] one tends to see out in the hay fields at dusk---if they are within a mile or two from a farm house---are usually attached to someone's house and therefore, unless it is a farm house, are arguably highly regarded by some family or child as their pet. [Farmers don't seem to have the attraction to their cats that urban yuppies do] Would you gratuitously shoot someone's dog merely because it was out hunting gophers [or even birds]? I would not. I know longer think the gratuitous shooting of "feral" cats can easily be justified simply because one can never be very certain the cat is not someone's pet.

Regarding Genghis' alleged threats: get real. The guy was merely being deliberately provocative and rhetorical. Don't take mere rhetoric so seriously.

Jordan

Feral cats, Feral dogs, coyotes, crows, etc are all eligible targets in my book. Feral animals are vermin, period. Someone's pet, that's a different matter. BTW, feral cat @ approx. 400 yds and a 7mm Rem Mag loaded with 150 Ballistic Tips make for a rather "colorful" (primarily red) combination Pieces are pieces, parts are parts....

I live about 10 miles out of town and i think every one dumps off the pets they are tired of in front of my house.They do make real good targets for my 22 hornet contender.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/16/burned.kitten.ap/index.html

Man arrested for burning kitten on grill

LIBERTY, Missouri (AP) -- A man was arrested Tuesday for allegedly burning a kitten on a barbecue grill as several other people stood around and watched in amusement.

A witness pulled the scorched, 7-week-old tabby from the hot coals, but it was severely injured and had to be put to death, police said.

"They kept saying, `Meow, meow,' and they were poking at it with a stick," said Sherry Scott, who burned her hand grabbing the kitten.

Charles C. Benoit, 24, was charged with animal abuse, punishable by up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine. He was jailed on $10,000 bail.

Jim Roberts, spokesman for the Clay County prosecutor's office, said he does not expect anyone else to be charged, because no witnesses could identify the others.

Scott said that on Friday night, she saw 10 or 12 people at the barbecue grill in the courtyard of the apartment complex where she lives. Scott said she asked what they were cooking, and they said it was a cat. She said the group taunted her, daring her to rescue the cat.

She said the group scattered when she threatened to call police. She said she pulled the kitten from where it had been shoved into the coals at the back of the grill. Its tail, whiskers, fur, eyes and throat were scorched.

"I called him Lucky because I thought I got him out of there just in time," she said.

Scott said she and other residents stayed up Friday night trying to nurse the kitten with an eye dropper of milk. But animal control officers decided that because of its respiratory injuries and inability to swallow food, it had to be destroyed.

"If you would have seen him, you would have cried," said Sheri Simpson, one of the residents who helped care for the kitten.

Benoit was quoted as saying, "I got me the idea of barbecuing a pussycat from all them rednecks on the AccurateReloading.com site. Those fellas been doin' it for years, I did it just one time. I think it's another case of the black man bein' put down by whitey." No rednecks from Accuratereloading.com were available for comment.

I like cats and own one, but I do understand the problem with strays and ferals cats. Most everybody around here (since they are a bunch of do-gooders) live-trap them and give them to the local vets.... only one thing though, the cats are sent up to Texas A&M ( I know this for a fact)so I imagine that most them wind up in some vet's experiment lab with wires coming out of their heads inside a week..... ouch. When I'm hunting any wild cats are shot on sight.
As for the assholes who were grilling that kitten, I think the same should be done to them - if you make the decision to take an animals life, you owe it a mercifully quick death. Karmic payback can be a bitch.

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I agree with long pig on this one.Like i said in an earlier post i have and will shoot stray cats or dogs that people have dumped off at my house.BUT i said nothing about the torture of any animal.I do the same thing as if i was shooting at a whitetail.One shot kill,these people that burn any animal like that should be punished.

Anyone who would kill an animal and gloat about it is in fact a redneck sicko. I live in a mountain town with a wilderness area that comes within 1/2 mile of home. I have no problem at all with the humane disposal of feral animals, I do so regularly myself. But this discussion of the best calibers, and gassing 'em etc. leads me to believe that there are some out there who simply enjoy the act of killing.

I've killed over 50 deer and dozens of other game animals. Also about 10 or so "feral" dogs (Labs, Goldens, Sheperds) in the local wilderness when they are in fawning areas. While I may discuss the relative merits of big game calibers, I don't ever remember thinking how cool it was that I blew them into pieces.

If you are able to discuss the killing of an animal in such a cavalier manner, I wonder about your motives.

Coyotes and Jackrabbits are one thing, but the gleeful execution of cats 'n dogs?? Come on........

This oughta be an unpopular view....but just like earlobes everybody has an opinion.

Jim

Gentlemen,
Disposal of feral and free roaming felines, and canines, is a necessary tenet of wildlife management. There is a clear difference between this distasteful duty and cruelty. If some of the "animal lovers" would practice a degree responsibility it would'nt be necessary in the first place.

I eliminate 35-60 feral and free roaming cats a year. I have a neighbor with six breeding female cats. Crop after crop of unwanted kittens. Lucky me, I get to trap, shoot, and bury them.

Regards, Matt in Virginia.

A 220 conibear trap will fit snug inside a a 5 gallon bucket with notches cut into it for the springs. This will simplify the process by eliminating the "dispatch" and makes no noise.

I just had to add my 2�
I live in the country where i happen to enjoy a nice pheasant dove and quail population along with these wanted critters i also have an abundance of feral cats (the unwanted ones) and i WILL use any and every means to get rid of them, most of the time it's a shotgun blast as they run out of the chicken coop but any calibre will do.
I shoot them with extreme prejudice.
The damage these cats cause to the healthy wildlife populations is immeasurable. They must be dealt with!
So here Kitty kitty kitty...........BOOM

Dang...

... this thread has more lives than a dozen cats!

CatShooter!

My first wife's uncle had a lamb operation in the Shenandoah Valley. I got permission to hunt ground hogs on the farm with the proviso that I keep an eye peeled for dogs running the sheep.
I had many an enjoyable morning popping ground hogs on one side of the farm and then popping dogs. You wouldn't believe what a 25-06 shooting a 100 grain Speer hollow point will do to a dog. The most interesting shot I made was with my 45-70 at 200 - 250 yards, pure luck but it sure slapped that mutt down like the hand of God.
The best morning I ever had was six dogs coming from a nearby subdivision, a Collie, Lab, some small mutt and the rest looked to be some sort of beagle size mutt types. Heck, one morning I got a big poodle just as he reached the field and began to chase. We'd collect the days harvest in dogs and hogs, and drop them in the farm's trash pit.
After about a week we'd see classified ads offering rewards for the dog and learn just how far those dogs had traveled to get to the sheep. We did wonder what the owners reaction would be if we turned up at their door with the carcuss. You think we could of collected the reward?
One of these days I'll tell about how I deal with obnoxious dogs in town where it's frowned upon to shoot them. I do follow a proceedure, I bring the problem to the owner's attention a couple of times, if nothing is done I contact the animal control officer a couple of times, if there is still a problem I wait a week or two and deal with the problem.
Jim

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GENGHIS idont really think ya can shoot folks for being assholes. in america you can be an ass hole an shoot kittys . being an asshole is not grounds for killin someone or threatening to.im on your side man but thats the way it is.im not peta either i love meat. my cats never go outside they are house cats .now if some confused S O B came in the house to get my beloved pets the rules will change.

[ 08-07-2002, 21:48: Message edited by: Matt in Virginia ]

I have a farm next door to my house. It has had several owners over the last 10 years. Every time a new family moves in they feel they have to get a couple of cats to have around. When they move out, guess what? They leave the cats behind. Not fixed and now with no regular feedings. One was using the space under my Bay window as a litter box all winter. I kept trying to get a shot at that d@mn cat but by the time I finally got it in my cross-hairs that thing had already had another litter!!! More targets I guess. Sean

LoneEagle,,I been using my beeman r9 in and around buildings and equipment,does pretty well.{headshots}

Cats are very much like people. Some are nice to know and have around, and some are barely worth wasting a bullet on.

I saw a black cat in the pasture where I shoot groundhogs the other day. I didn't shoot him, however. I rarely see cats on that farm, and the farm owners don't currently want them shot.

I think there would need to be several cats to show up in a given area before I would consider them to be a problem. One or two on a 900 acre farm doesn't seem to be a problem, and in fact the owners of some farms like having them around barns and silos for rodent control.

If I had one around my home, especially a tom that was spraying, I would probably take him out.

A lone cat in a large field doesn't impress me as a problem. Maybe they simply haven't gotten out of control in this part of Virginia, as no farmer I'm aware of (and I know many) seem to have any problems with cats at all. To the contrary, most keep some, as mentioned earlier, for rodent control.

Dan Newberry
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