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Originally posted by Sheister:

Anyone notified the authorities yet?- Sheister

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no need to the DOJ is monitering all web sites such as this one
you can no longer hide behind the screen

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Go ahead you city bred rat, make the call. Then see if the county will reimburse you for your dead chickens. And in your CITY PARADISE animal control MAY come out, that is maybe, and never within a week, and if they do catch the cat , which they wont ; But, Say they do, they will just end up throwing them in a gas chamber anyway.

Personaly I'll save the dime and just shoot the sons-a-bitches.........J

[This message has been edited by JHook (edited 03-27-2002).]

I personally have cats for mouse and rat
control around the barnyard (don't like to
use poisons), but rest assured, when I see
young cotten tail parts around the barn, the
culprit is found out and properly reprimanded
with a Stinger.

And as for the statement that dogs cannot
fend for themselves in the wild - bullshit!
When dogs go wild, they do so much damage, so
quickly, that they are promptly taken care
of, usually by farmers. It doesn't happen
very often, but when it does, it must be
taken care of immediately because dogs not
only kill for food, they kill for pleasure.
Half a dozen wild dogs can kill dozens of
calves or sheep in a couple of hours.

A feral pussy can have two litters a year.
I congratulate all of you who have prevented
a population of thousands by doing your part
in controlling this predator. We will never
shoot them to extinction, however, you have
saved the lives of scores of thousands of
indeginous prey animals. PAT YOURSELVES ON
THE BACK!!!!!

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Pennsylvania Frank

You need to Shepardize the starre decisis on the legal distinction between a constructively directed threat and the expression of a personal sentiment.

For starters.

While you're in the law library . . Have a look at statutes regarding the definition and protection of domestic animals.

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Originally posted by Genghis:
PA Frank, et al . . .

You need to Shepardize the starre decisis on the legal distinction between a constructively directed threat and the expression of a personal sentiment.

For starters.
While you're in the law library . . Have a look at statutes regarding the definition and protection of domestic animals.

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i teach a CCW class mandated by my state for the right to carry concealed and the use of deadly force
A person can only use deadly force to protect ones self or another person WHEN no reasonable means of escape exist.
you can NOT use deadly force to protect personal property EVER.
cats, dogs and any other PET or animal are classified as property.
the use of deadly force to protect an animal will get you big trouble real quick to even threaten to use deadly force for such an action is a felony! at the vary least you will lose the right to own guns and to vote are you sure a stray cat is worth all that?

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The official PETA position is that feral cats should be humanely "euthanized" to prevent unacceptable damage to native fauna.

I submit that "humanely" constitutes using no less than a centerfire....... FWIW, Dutch.

I think the proliferation of coyotes are going to take care of any feral cat or dog problems we have.

Regards, Matt.

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Chris

This guys a big pussy, forgettaboutit! Besides you have to know who someone is in order to threaten him. You cant threaten a computer! He doesnt know you, who you are, where you live, in legal terms hes threatening a lighted screen in front of him.

Im not defending this pussy, but lets move past this "threaten & Lawsuit" crap! I hear enough of that at work!.................J

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Originally posted by JHook:
Matt, and I speak from some experience, its the guys who DONT threaten that you have to worry about.

This guys a big pussy, forgettaboutit! Besides you have to know who someone is in order to threaten him. You cant threaten a computer! He doesnt know you, who you are, where you live, in legal terms hes threatening a lighted screen in front of him.

Im not defending this pussy, but lets move past this "threaten & Lawsuit" crap! I hear enough of that at work!.................J

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look down in the lower right corner of each post - see the little IP: logged
easy enough to find out who a person is from there

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Originally posted by Matt in Virginia:

Gentlemen,
It would appear that I was incorrect in my initial statement that this Genghis fellow is insane. It would appear that he is sane enough to contruct a fraudulent justifiable homicide defense to back his threats of murder. Which points out that he is likely sane, if not overly bright, and truly may be a danger afterall. One would hope that proper authorities are notified regarding this thread and at the very least his commentary can be filed away along with his identity.

Best, Matt.

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ONE MORE TIME, in words you're likely to comprehend:

Law makes a substantial distinction between "directed threat" and "statement of sentiment."

. . . and while you're poring over your dictionary . . . look up "hyperbole."

It's NOT "sport," and you seem to include yourself in the term "Gentlemen." That may be a traditional, Southern, culturally determined salutation. But I find it presumptuous.

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Originally posted by JHook:
Matt, and I speak from some experience, its the guys who DONT threaten that you have to worry about.

This guys a big pussy, forgettaboutit! Besides you have to know who someone is in order to threaten him. You cant threaten a computer! He doesnt know you, who you are, where you live, in legal terms hes threatening a lighted screen in front of him.

Im not defending this pussy, but lets move past this "threaten & Lawsuit" crap! I hear enough of that at work!.................J

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Interesting feline allusion going on in this one . . . hmmmmmm. Probably a mysogenist AND pathological, sadistic animal abuser.

Let's spell it out here:

A legally probative "threat" needs to be directed AT someone. YES, if it's directed AT a person online it constitutes a legally constucted threat.

"John Doe! I'm gonna kill you!" is a probative threat.

"I'm gonna kill John Doe!" is a probative threat -- even if the person making the statement does not know John Doe personally, his whereabouts, his identity, etc. The fact that "John Doe" is a person and the threat is directed at him is sufficient for prosecution.

Posting online that one intends to "kill John Doe" is prosecutable.

NOW . . .

"I shoot people who pick their nose!" is NOT a probative threat insofar as it's directed at a broad, general class of persons engaging in a generalized behavior. Even if "John Doe" is a "nose picker," the threat is NOT necessarily directed AT "John Doe" inasmuch as "John Doe" has the option of NOT engaging in "nose picking" and thereby NOT being identified as belonging to a general class of persons engaged in a broad, general class of behavior.

Additionally, someone making such a statement (It's not a "threat.") may or may not view "John Doe" as belonging to that specified group of persons. In order to be viewed as a "threat" the action MUST be directed AT a specific person and NOT at a generalized group in which that person may be included.

In logic this is viewed as deductive exclusion. "A" MAY include "B," but "B" is NOT necessarily included in "A."

As examples:

A square is a rectangle, but not all rectangles are necessarily squares.

-- or more specifically . . .

John Doe MAY be a nose picker. BUT a generalized group of nose pickers do not necessarily include John Doe.

I know . . .

Thinking is hard when you're stupid, marginally literate, and unable to read closely.

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Regards, Matt.

Btw, would concur with the three "S" rule regarding feral and free roaming feline disposal, as we seem to be sharing bandwidth with the children. Poorly mannered little buggers at that...

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My policy implementation tools are a 6ppc and a shovel. Dutch.

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Danno, how do you train your barn cats to hunt field rats but not rabbits???? If I get a new cat that shows an interest in chickens or birds, I put it in a cage with a bantie hen with biddies. When I let it out, it isn't interested in any type of birds.

I think the proliferation of coyotes are going to take care of any feral cat or dog problems we have.

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Why would I attempt to train one of those
indepentent critters? They can have the
mice, rats, and English sparrows. But when
it comes to game animals; well, I can replace
a cat around here in 15 minutes or less.
Perhaps you have a point with the cage,
though. Place the offending cat in a cage
with an old tame buck rabbit -- IF the cat
is still alive by morning, it would run from
the smallest of bunnies after that!

Coyotes won't even think about messing with
a pack of german shepherd sized wild dogs.
Singles, yes -- a pack? Never. Coyotes
haven't survived our best efforts of killing
them off by being that stupid!

Chris

All dat babble o' yous makes me wanna gets a gun and go shoots some o' dem ferel cats! Maybe, i'll gets my cussin (who'ds also my bruther) an den we ken kilt a hole bunch at da same time......LOL!

I guess i will never be able to understand what little value you place on human life. I truely feel sorry for people such as yourself.

mike

I too, have been attacked for a general comment here, not focused at anyone.

However, one could argue that yours was at a particular poster. I would have a long look at Federal Law on the use of telephone lines for threatening people, and, reconsider your comments.

Your own state statutes might also have such a law, Kalifornia does.

I understand the affection some have for certain animals, but, you might also look at the other side of the coin, that, in the man made circumstances of this world, what shouldn't be a problem, becomes one.

I have a friend that was attacked by a wolf.
Another that is rebarreling his 06 to handle Grizzly, both caused by Federal intervention, creating over population, and no fear of humans.

While I want to see both spieces continue, our government's ability to much up conservation efforts is truly amazing.
Still, better to have them try, then loose a
beautiful spieces.

Cats are prolific, and, can destroy the balance of an eco system, if they are wild, and uncontrolled.

Perhaps a bit less emotion, and an understanding of the problems that poor pet owners create would be a better position?

gs

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Sinner, saved by God's unfailing grace!

17 kitty's later we had done are duty, had a little fun, left a few for seed, and secured our antelope spot for yet another season.

Now he wants us to work on his piegons a bit when we return....

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. . . and while you're poring over your dictionary . . . look up "hyperbole."

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Is that your obfuscatory way of admitting that you're full of shit?

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Originally posted by Bruce Gordon:
For all I know the dog could be barking at all the feral cats. Now there would be a sad story. A perfectly good dog gets in trouble for scaring away all the wild cats.

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Bruce,

Funny you mention that. I had to have a talk with a neighbor about that very thing! It was his cats that kept his dog barking all night! He decided that the cats had to go...LOL! The dog is still there but hardly barks now....

mike

Makes me hungry just thinking of all the ways to serve good pussy

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Originally posted by Bruce Gordon:
Oh no, you have it all wrong. I love pussy. Yum Yum.
Fried Pussy,
Baked Pussy,
Chile Pussy,
Smothered Pussy,
Pussy Pot Pie,
Pussy legs smothered in gravy,

Makes me hungry just thinking of all the ways to serve good pussy

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Don't forget "plucked" and stuffed with meat!

I think the smiling stopped when 6 years later when one night we put a couple 8mm French Lebel steel AP rounds into the block via the radiator of his then new BMW 318i! Just remember don't leave any witnesses because paybacks can be hell.

Busa Dave

Interesting note...I once shot a cat that posed beside the road one night when I was on the way home from deer hunting. Blue lights quickly were front and rear and the rabbit sherrifs set about finding the "deer". Upon finding the tabby I was told since it was not a game animal, the NCWRC has no cause of action and I was released with the advice to never miss so as not to be confused with poachers. seems the high rabbit sherrif was a bird hunter.

Also I never like putting cats in plastic bags to dispose. They just look much more natural as road kills around the animal control property which is not far from here.

Dead cats should not be overlooked for they can be a great benefit to wingshooters. A dead cat on a country road will attract many crows.

Haven't tried it but I hear tainted cat flesh makes good catfish bait.

Cat goes on rampage in Nova Scotia, evicts owners
DARTMOUTH, Nova Scotia, May 13 (Reuters) - A Canadian family had to flee for safety after their pet Siamese cat went on a rampage, tearing at clothes and skin and driving them out of the house, police said on Monday.
The shaken group called police in the eastern port city of Dartmouth after taking refuge on their lawn on Sunday evening.

"Earlier in the afternoon, the cat had attacked the babysitter," police Sgt. Don Spicer told Reuters. "The residents went to check on the cat and, essentially, the cat went crazy on them as well.

"It attacked the father and ripped his pants as well as the flesh underneath," Spicer said.

It took police officers, armed with a blanket and a clothes hamper, 20 minutes to corner the cat. Spicer said Cocoa the cat was eventually secured in a pet carrier and handed over to the family who took it to the veterinarian.

It was not yet known what caused the cat's frenzy.

"We've been called to deal with a snake or various animals for one reason for another. But this is the first time that I can recall an actual cat going berserk," Spicer said.

Another police officer said Cocoa was "a Siamese cat with an attitude problem."

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