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BTW, just to help you out so you can start figuring all the taxes, current and back that you owe, this is from the Idaho State Tax Commission site: (bold emphasis mine)
Be sure you don't ignore this in the future. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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never smoked anything or took anything ileagel in my life...... don't have much time for people who do........ shooting with an impaired fool is something i will never do.............................................. PRAY FOR OBAMA... PSALMS 109:9 | |||
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One more time, with feelin' GWB | |||
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BogartO'Gordo, if this is the best example of what you find to do in your spare time, you REALLY need to get a life. Lease one if need be. You are still a stoner, and redefining chickenshit and anal retentive is beginning to look like a career. Are you riding with Panama Red? B | |||
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Oh yeah! Classic tune, big respect G-man. | |||
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I think that the company name was part of the problem with the stoners who called me! My cattle brand is a A and B locked together with some other stuff.. and that brand is called the AB Joint!!! Healthy is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die "Men don't change. The only thing that should surprise a man in his life is the history he doesn't know." Harry Truman | |||
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While I do not smoke Pot, is there really any difference between pot and booze? You can become addicted to both, both kill brain cells and other body parts. But if you have a responsible drink at night or a puff at night is it doing any harm? I know Pot is illegal but would people's comments differ if it was legal? Personally I would like to see it legalized. I would never smoke it but it sure would kill a lot of large illegal orginizations. Have the same rules as booze and tax the shit out of it. Some may argue that pot is a gateway drug but you can say the same about booze. As far as hunting with anyone who is under the infuence of anything is just stupid. Also anyone hunting with someone who has pot while it is illegal is just asking for trouble. | |||
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A very weak response, typical for someone who can't even look up a law before he sticks his head up his ass. You're still lying and a hypocrite. What's that about not owing any use tax again? And I'm still waiting for you to tell me how you don't ignore the TWEA and smoke cuban cigars......because then you'd be part of your, and I quote,....
Got it? Let me be clear, the ban on Cuban trade and the use tax are OTHER laws which most people ignore everyday. I don't give a damn if you trade with the enemy or not, nor do I care if you pay your LAWFULLY due use taxes to the State of Idaho, that's your and their problems. I do care if you're so fucking hypocritical that you sit there and pretend that you don't ignore laws when it suits you while criticizing others who do the same thing. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Rich, unfortunately Gato is 100% correct and you obviously don't know shit about it. But a felon and fugitive wouldn't. In Kansas, we also have a use tax, like Idaho. I pay it every year. It is minimal, so why take a chance? Several states have requester records from sites like EBay so they can start collecting from individuals. Also, to answer your question, I have never smoked pot, or a Cuban or anything else for that matter. When you watch your father gasp for his last breath because of smoking, it leaves an impression. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Larry, I do hope you reamed his ass over this as he lay dying in the hospital. You being such an arbiter of right and wrong, and a prim and proper kinda guy and all. Gordo, I am waiting to hear from you on your stand on rape and armed robbery, since every crime is defined by your stance on pot smoking. Idaho courts have ruled that the state cannot charge you with evading sales taxes unless you admit to such actions. They haven't even tried anybody dealing drugs with evading sales tax yet. That said, dealing and using drugs hardly equates with not paying sales tax. You two are such morons... | |||
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Rich: Not surprisingly, you have missed the point completely. You really should try to think outside of your very small box. Let's just leave it that you're a hypocrite who deliberately ignores and violates the United States Trading with the Enemy Act as well as being an Idaho use tax evader. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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for what is worth,in this state,anyway,possesion of small amounts of marijuana,or use thereof, is a misdemeanor,not a felony. ****************************************************************** SI VIS PACEM PARA BELLUM *********** | |||
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In Idaho, you get caught with marijuana, you go to prison... Do your own version of OWS, fire up a joint in the lobby of your local Police Station this afternoon. Gato: you should read more. 1. It is NOT illegal to buy or possess Cuban cigars. US Citizens can legally travel to Cuba and bring back small quantities of Cuban Cigars. 2. Idaho does not charge sales tax for purchases made from an out of state merchant unless said merchant has a "physical presence" inside the state borders. That is defined as a storefront or outlet. Rich | |||
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You really are getting stupid in your old age. Read more????? You really should try to keep up, if that is still possible for you....try reading this....
....AND it's an Idaho USE TAX not a sales tax and no presence in the state of Idaho is required for it to be due and payable by an Idaho resident. Get a clue, you hypocrite. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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gato, here's the deal: no amount of blather on your part is going to change the fact that if you are a stoner, then by law you are NOT legally allowed to purchase, possess, or handle firearms. It really is that simple, and if they catch you the ATF is going to take all of your firearms and send you to prison. It only takes a blood test to establish your dependency. Your babbling here is enough for probable cause. That is the bottom line you seem unable to acknowledge. Get caught, go to prison, and lose everything you have... | |||
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Obviously you still can't read, I don't use pot as I stated in my opening post in this thread. I also think that laws creating "crimes" which don't involve harm to other people should be repealed. I repeat, the much vaunted 40 year plus "war on drugs" has been a complete failure and any thinking individual, which seems to exclude you based on your idiotic posts on the topic, should realize there is a better way, starting with decriminalizing the "crimes". In the interim, here's the real deal, no amount of your blather, which should really be personally embarrassing to you in it's lack of substance and ability to ignore facts, will change the fact that you're a hypocrite who knowingly ignores and violates laws that you don't agree with while evading taxes due to the State of Idaho. I'm fine with that, you're the one who says such actions, and I quote one of your earlier blathers (posts), "people like you who consider themselves above the laws they personally disagree with are one of the current issues facing this country." Hypocrite. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Because of the war on drugs, almost all drugs carry the blood of those who were killed as a result, reason enough to abstain. As for the statements by Gato amounting to probable cause, not really. | |||
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It is much more of a reason to change the laws causing the bloodshed. Legalization and thus removing the profits involved in supplying the illegal drug demand would certainly reduce the bloodshed by close to 100%. There are probably more drug users and addicts today than ever before in the US (over 1/3 of US adults use or have used marijuana according to a research article I just read). That would suggest that a new social response should be in order especially since it has been done successfully in other countries. Education and rehabilitation is much cheaper and more effective than criminalization. Think about it, the current system sends a person to jail or prison at a unbelievable cost for arrest, (especially if you factor all the implications of the WOD and it's use of resources that could be used for reducing and arresting other criminal activities), detention, prosecution, and possibly incarceration when the individuals could be working and supporting themselves or, at least, not incarcerated where we supply the sole support at a considerable cost per year. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I agree, time to take the drug profit away from the gangs. Glad Rich is not a sitting judge, his idea of p.c. would be a police state. | |||
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I believe is choices, and consequences for your actions. You do not seem to accept the consequences part. If Rich were in a position of authority, preferably President, he would: 1. bring back the concept, now abandoned by the libturds; of responsibility for your actions. The founding fathers never envisioned an America where people across the board believe they have the right to live their life as they please, regardless of the law; but do not have any responsibility for their actions, and do not believe in consequences. In their world, everyone pretty much had to pull their weight in order to survive. The issue on point here, is whether one is obligated to obey the law, any law, if they disagree with it. You want to smoke pot, go ahead. You want to drive your car over the speed limit, go ahead. Any law you disagree with, disobey it. If you get caught, man up and take the consequences. If you disagree with any law, form a grassroots group and petition your representatives at the State and Federal level to change the law. People are not by nature law abiding. A baby is born totally self-centered and absorbed. As the child grows (hopefully) his parents civilize him/her. That is the basis for a civilized society of any sort. We make laws so that those not inclined by nature to deny their impulses understand that their rights do not extend to violating the rights of others. NO whiners... | |||
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How does private marijuana use violate the rights of others Rich? Do you even know why marijuana is illegal? Changing existing drug laws might be a bit easier if people like you didn't equate illegal with bad. There is nothing inherently bad about marijuana. For the majority of our country's history it was perfectly legal to consume it. It was made illegal for reasons wholly unrelated to the rights of others, actual dangers of use, or anything resembling a rational basis. Drug violence is a product of the failed war on drugs. Your previous comparison of marijuana use with rape and armed robbery only only underscores your inability to think rationally about the topic. Rape and robbery clearly cause harm to others. Marijuana use does not. Please do not respond with "It's illegal, so you shouldn't do it unless you're willing to man up and accept the consequences." First of all, there are no consequences, legal or otherwise, for the vast majority of users. Second, you have been shown to be selective in obeying the law yourself. The difference between you and me is that I'm not willing to call you a criminal and treat you like a child. | |||
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Rich I do agree that the law should be obeyed concerning the use of illicit drugs. My drugs of choice are a glass of red wine at night, and three cups of coffee in the morning. I would encourage others to obey laws concerning drugs because buying drugs fuels the cartels if nothing else. Where I really disagree with you is that the statements by Gato is p.c. Probable cause to do what? The statements with out any supporting evidence made by Gato do not establish P.C. To the contrary he has indicated that he does not use drugs, only supports the decriminalisation of drugs. Something I do as well as the criminalizing of drugs has done nothing for us in regards of controlling the illicit use of drugs. If the above is P.C. we are in a world of manure. | |||
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+1 Not to get between Rich and CAT, Larry, sounds like our routine is about the same except just reversed. I like three glasses of wine at nite and a cup of coffe in the AM. I joke about it, but I've not been an illegal drug user since June of 1977. Couldn't agree with you more on the decriminalisation. Best GWB | |||
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Hmmmm, you might have something there with the three glasses of wine vs the three cups of coffee. | |||
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Not for the first time, , both of you are wrong......it is three cups of coffee AND at LEAST 3 glasses of wine. Try to get it right next time. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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A man with a plan, I like it. | |||
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However; your logic does not take into consideration that Marijuana is basically a gateway drug for young people. You will not find hard drug users that did not start with pot. If we should legalize pot, we should also legalize meth, cocaine, heroin, PCP, LSD, Extasy, and any other substance that anyone wants to do. And provide chemically pure dosages at free clinics that the government sets up in every town over 1000 population. And, since many consider alcohol a drug, we should make that available in unlimited quantities free of charge. Anarchy can be a wonderful thing to experience... if you live thru it. | |||
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I can't tell if you're trolling or not. Do you really think that decriminalization is akin to providing all the drugs anyone could want for free? I have no problem with decriminalizing everything. Let's treat adults like adults. | |||
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Alcohol is a gateway drug as well. When abused it causes a heck of alot of problems in society. I really think comparing pot to cocaine and some of the other drugs you have listed is not a fair comparison. Its kind of like comparing beer and paint thinner both have alcohol but one is alot more dangerous to drink. While pot is illegal should you smoke it? I would say no. But if it is that important to you then people should try to make change. When you call someone a stoner for having one joint a night or a social user who might have one or two a month is no different than calling the same person who has a couple of beers a week an alcoholic. | |||
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I do not know or care who is or is not a hypocritical poster here. I DO support the legalization of Mary Jane and its use for individuals, and its open sale to the adult public, if taxed at the same rates or higher than alcohol or tobacco. I also support freeing all prisoners currently incarcerated for simple possession , and expunging their criminal records of conviction for that offense, whether misdemeanor or felonious. Here's why: 1. It would take much of (but not all of) the profits away from the drug cartels, thus almost immediately destroying them and their powers over indigenous populations where they exist. 2. It would provide greatly enhanced revenues to economically beleagered states. 3. It would reduce the problems and costs of running our prison systems. 4. It would reduce the money we spend building para-military domestic police empires, AND federal bureaucracies.. 5. It would enable people now in prison to work for a living and pay their share of the taxes supporting our society...especially those who are otherwise good people who would no longer be banned from finding employment because of criminal records which currently haunt them even after they have served their time. 6. It would greatly increase the number of purchasers of other goods in our society, thus contributing (however slightly) to our economic recovery. 7. To a small degree at least, it would restore one more bit of freedom to adult citizens. 8. If nothing else, it would legalize the major agricultural product of my favorite state (Oregon). That portion of SW Oregon inside a triangle formed with its corners at Crescent City, California; Ashland, Oregon; and Florence, Oregon is widely known as "The Green Triangle". Governments in that area openly acknowledge that the primary cash crop in that whole area (most of which is federal and state land, BTW), is marijuana...by far the greatest cash-crop ever since the eco-extremists destroyed the timber industry on which those areas used to survive. There are doubtless other good reasons to legalize "grass", but there is little doubt we should do it because the bottom line is "it IS the RIGHT thing to do". | |||
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Well said AC | |||
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Is there an irony inherent in observing that a few of the contributors to this thread would be best able to hash out, if you pardon the pun, their differences around a campfire with a joint and box of cookies doing the rounds? I for one am ready to put some money in the hat to make such an event happen. | |||
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Hell I'll bake the cookies!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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I/m good for some cheap wine. Maybe Jeffeosso will bring a couple bottles of Mead. GWB | |||
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Love that hat! Ok, we've got an Events Manager, a Chef and two Texans With Booze. Still recruiting. | |||
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Amir, I hunt with 9 other old farts. Several of them had gone to a "hunters extravaganza" in Uvalde Texas, the night before opening of deer season. Supposedly they saw the cap and asked the vendor if he had one that says "I kill everything". He replied, no. So they got me that one. I would have to be honest and say that while wearing it, I have killed more tequila shots than animals. GWB | |||
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Like it! I once wore a Russian fur cap to a driven pheasant shoot, that irritated but I think a "I kill deer" baseball cap would drive them to apoplexy... I need one. | |||
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I can no longer risk flying because of heart problems, but if it was within reasonable driving distance of Arizona, I'd certainly make every effort to attend and bring some stuff to contribute to the "pot luck" sustenance of the camp (pardon the pun, please). Maybe also some music (NOT John Denver singing "Rocky Mountain High"). | |||
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I am from Humboldt County Kalifornica....and I do not want to even talk about this shit. Try living here and watching your paradise turn into a bag of shit due to medical pot and everyone who lies about the need. FUCK it! If it was for a REAL and true medical condition like my friend when she died of cancer at 16, then I understand, but I am sick and tired of the worthless pieces of shit that walk the streets here growing illegally and fucking this whole area up! Taxes adding back to the area NO, no they do not...BUT they do protest everything under the sun and have plenty of money to back it up. The local environmental group E.P.I.C. "Environmental Protection Information Center" Is a fucking laugh. They protest everything from Transportation to thinning trees and the timber industry and then thier office manager gets popped with 495 pounds of processed buds! http://www.times-standard.com/localnews/ci_18269255 http://www.wildcalifornia.org/...eson-office-manager/ http://watchpaul.blogspot.com/...mps-and-thieves.html I am sorry for how I have acted, but it has destroyed this area that my family helped settle before the Civil War. I am both Native American and European settler to California and cannot even stand these discussions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Especially by those who proliferate it! | |||
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