i would like to see what the real velocity is on this round instead of what the manufact. velocity is.

BTT..............Would like to know this myself

I think you're both going to have to wait until ammunition is available. Then - MAYBE - Hornady will also bring out brass for the reloaders.

I'm starting to wonder if they think they've hit on a scheme to extract more money from sportsman than previously. When they introduced the LeveRevolution line of ammo for the leverguns (pointy, but soft, tips for safety in the tubular magazine), it was widely expected that the bullets as components would soon follow. Hasn't happened. Hornady claims that all the soft-tipped bullets they can produce go to meeting demand for loaded ammo.

But maybe they've decided by limiting the bullets to loaded ammo, they have an "exclusive" and anyone wanting to utilize those bullets will have to buy their high-priced ammo.

It would work the same way - for awhile, at least - with the .375 Ruger. Limit brass production to what is used for loaded ammunition. Sure, the reloaders can buy that and then reload the empty cases, but most of us prefer to roll our own from the get-go.

I wouldn't even consider owning a firearm chambered for this cartridge until brass was available, and then only if it caught on so that long-term availability seemed assured, as well as the round living up to its "hyped" performance.

This is taken from a review of the Ruger 77 Hawkeye in .375 Ruger at the realguns.com website:

I called Ruger and that was futile. First it was the customer service person who explained to me I had to find an ammo maker because, and she spoke slowly for this part, Ruger only makes firearms. I explain I was aware of this, however, the 375 Ruger is a proprietary Ruger cartridge and Ruger considered people might have an interest in locating ammo, AND didn't they feel some responsibility to point customers in some helpful direction. She apparently did not. I called Ruger sales at their corporate office and was told the firearms would not be available until after the Shot Show in Florida. So I asked if that included the one I had in front of me on my work bench, to which she replied, "Oh, dear. Let me ask someone about ammunition". She returned and said no brass, no ammunition, perhaps sometime in July. I also spoke to RCBS who said they never heard of the cartridge - which, unfortunately, these day I think I could believe. Ruger and Hornady were beginning to take on the appearance of a superficial celebrity who calls the paparazzi to report they are about to walk their dog then, when the photographers show up, they complain about their inability to find privacy. Growing weary, or wary, of the conversations, and accepting these people were losing their entertainment value, I called a couple of folks who would really know. Formal release of the firearms after the Shot Show, ammo starting to trickle out after mid January with 300 grain ammo first. No loading dies until July when the cartridge had received an affirmative vote to be standardized and receive a SAAMI spec and stamp of pressure approval.

http://www.realguns.com/archives/134.htm

when all is said and done i will speculate that the difference between the alaskans 20" barrel and the steyr 376 will be about 50 fps w/ a 270 grain bullet.
im not gonna say which way.

I can't see the 375 Ruger outrunning the Steyr by only 50 fps. The Ruger reportedly has slightly more case capacity than the 375 H&H and the H&H is more than 50 fps faster than Steyr. Having said that, I personally don't care if the 375 Ruger outpaces the venerable H&H at all. Having 375 H&H performance in a standard length receiver should be enough to sell this creation and have it perform admirably in the field. When all the smoke clears, so to speak, I believe the Ruger will show a slight gain in performance over the H&H. The 375H&H, 375 Ruger, 376 Steyr, and even the 9.3x64 are all rounds that fairly even, performance wise, and make great choices. The 375 ruger will have a sales advantage over the Steyr due to the fact that existing standard length magnum chambered rifles can be more easily rechambered to 375 Ruger. As I have said before on other threads, let us not try to kill this round before it has a chance to stand on two feet. Give hornady a chance; maybe they have a winner. Only time will tell.

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Originally posted by HondoLane:
I The 375 ruger will have a sales advantage over the Steyr due to the fact that existing standard length magnum chambered rifles can be more easily rechambered to 375 Ruger.

please excuse my ignorance, but what precludes the 376 Steyr from being chambered in standard length magnum actions?

please excuse my ignorance, but what precludes the 376 Steyr from being chambered in standard length magnum actions?[/QUOTE]

It's too short??

It looks to me like the 375 Ruger will have a 8-10 grain volume gain over the 376 Steyr witch might add up to 100-150??fps in velosity gain.

The Steyr has a bastard sized head that will not fit common existing actions(without alterations) , while the Ruger is gonna fit any action currently chambering 300 Win , 7 Rem mag and such.

As to bullet speed , little doubt the Ruger will blow away the short Steyr cartridge .

load a 375-284 win long and you will get steyr performance without the bastard rim size...





same casehead...

use a true short action and give a longer throat.

damn that would be a thumper!...

i would like a 358 though for the pistol bullets.

....or, you could just build a .375 Taylor (.375-.338 WM) and have your brass right now along with .375 H-H ballistics. How about 270g Barnes TSX and 70g of RE-15 = 2725fps muzzle velocity. Presto! .375 H-H performance in a standard length action. No waiting for proprietary brass at $2 each. But, aw hell, that's too easy...

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MKane160

poulsbo, there is some info on gunblast.com

and there's one at a local store here. i really like it and if my sendero sells in time i will buy it. they also have six boxes of ammo, 300gr rn at $60 a box..ouch!

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Originally posted by MKane160:
....or, you could just build a .375 Taylor (.375-.338 WM) and have your brass right now along with .375 H-H ballistics. How about 270g Barnes TSX and 70g of RE-15 = 2725fps muzzle velocity. Presto! .375 H-H performance in a standard length action. No waiting for proprietary brass at $2 each. But, aw hell, that's too easy...

;-)


MKane160

You are exactly right, "Mkane". I've built about a dozen of these rifles over the years. Mostly use rug 77, tang safety actions. I just finished one. At the range Sunday it was pushing 300 gr solids 2650 FPS with 67 gr 4064. That's H&H performance (or better) with a lot less powder. Less blast & recoil too. The largest group shot was 1" smallest was @ 5/8". 24" Douglas bbl.
I recall one customer who came back from Africa and ordered another 375/338. When I asked what happened to the one I just built him, he said the guide was so impressed he talked him out of it . He had shot a hippo on the Zambezi, diagonally end to end, breaking the hip & shoulder with a 300 gr Barnes solid.
It works fine in any std length action with a mag type bolt face.