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OK all you recoil shy fellas...Here is the 8pd 600 Overkill in Action!
10 September 2008, 23:28
SAFARIKIDOK all you recoil shy fellas...Here is the 8pd 600 Overkill in Action!
Well,here it is folks

,being tested by the builder(www.bijoucreek.com)!!A 4 minute video,a few short gaps,but check it out! Also,it weighed 8 1/2 pds when this was filmed,since then it ws reduced to 8 pds even

w/o peep or scope...less than 9 pds scoped w/rings! Load is 145 Varget with 900 Woodleighs at 2100fps as per chrony

...this is in Colorado at 5000+ elevation,Velocity will be less at lower altitudes! We could load her faster

,but dont feel the need...yet!

Please notice that Mike is well less than 200 pds and doesnt have any problems(or tears

) with it.This just goes to show you how effective a good brake can be

Also note the Woodleigh recovered from the lengthways drum full of water,perfect mushroom

...Then some solids through the tree stumps!

The Backwards 900 Woodys are not meant for pentration,just awesome Shock transfers

...Cant wait to hit a Boar in the Gristle plate with one of those..Bison too!..maybe even Sasquatch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGfu3Rge8Xo
"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
10 September 2008, 23:34
boom stickMan.... I would be so pumped to get that rig. Congrats on your new toy

When is the Savannah Big Bore Shoot?

10 September 2008, 23:57
RIPPlease, sumbuddy do a play-by-play on this until I can get to a puter that can open that video. Anticlimactic or thoroughly invigorating?
Is the shooter blind yet?

11 September 2008, 00:16
Bike RiderKid,
Cant wait to shoot it. Is it down South now?
Bike Rider
11 September 2008, 00:26
gumboot458Knocking over the 55 gal. drum full of water is impressive ,, very impressive Very Nice Kid

.If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined ....
11 September 2008, 02:28
Tyler KempWow that's a heck of a gun in a little bitty package!
Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!
Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.
11 September 2008, 03:16
rnoviLOL! To heck with the Gun - let's hear it for the dog trying to chase the bullet down!
Nice Gun SK!
Regards,
Robert
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H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer!
11 September 2008, 03:26
SAFARIKIDJust got IT

and the 458 Lott

in the same case,I feel like a safariKID at CHRISTmas!!

Love it!talk about handy,both of them

...600 is dead on 9pds scoped,Lott is not scoped yet,5pds 3 ounces...This is on Digital and Accurate 11pd capacity scale..

quote:
Originally posted by Bike Rider:
Kid,
Cant wait to shoot it. Is it down South now?
Bike Rider
"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
11 September 2008, 03:42
boom stickHow Bout an Aimpoint 2moa red dot sight on the lott sighted in for 100 yards. Aimpoint are known to hold up under recoil and your Lott is a verrry modern gun so this would fit imho
http://www.tacticalhuntingandcamping.com/aimpointscopes9000l2moa-p-375.html11 September 2008, 03:45
Macifejquote:
even Sasquatch
I'm up for a Bigfoot hunt...

11 September 2008, 04:20
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by RIP:
Please, sumbuddy do a play-by-play on this until I can get to a puter that can open that video. Anticlimactic or thoroughly invigorating?
Is the shooter blind yet?
Well Doc, he doesn't get tossed around. He does however obliturate a 5 gallon pail of water. Then knocks over, actually appears to twist a 55 gallon plastic barrel, filled with water. That one has to take a lot of bullet momentum!
He then shoots a 55 gallon barrel, plastic filled with water, laying on its side. He used a Woody 900 soft, it didn't go through, but caused a shock wave, which shook the barrel. Again that 600 OK has a lot of bullet momentum!
11 September 2008, 04:26
boom stickThat barrel was a bang flop!
11 September 2008, 04:45
maxbearI need a couple of asprin.
Excellant video.
11 September 2008, 04:45
JKSNice!

John
There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR!
11 September 2008, 05:49
MississippianDamit! Just when I thought I was doing good shooting mine at 13#s!

Thats it, Im selling it and getting into Rimfire benchrest!
Hats off to ya Tom!!!!!!!!!
Double Rifle Shooters Society
11 September 2008, 06:49
N E 450 No2I shot Missippians 600 and I did not find the recdoil to be that bad, he will have to tell us what load I shot.
However, do not stand near him when he shoots a tree, as 2 cords of wood fly off the tree in large pieces and knock down all bystanders.

I will say that his 600 was put together very nicely.
DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY
11 September 2008, 07:18
Mississippianquote:
I shot Missippians 600 and I did not find the recdoil to be that bad, he will have to tell us what load I shot.
However, do not stand near him when he shoots a tree, as 2 cords of wood fly off the tree in large pieces and knock down all bystanders.
I will say that his 600 was put together very nicely.
Tony,
Going by memory which isnt very good at times I would say that load was 160-165 grains 7828ssc/900 gr soft. Since then I have been using 4350 without the X brake. BIG difference! Maybe I need to try some Varget. If he is getting 2100fps from the Rogue, no telling what I could get from my 22 incher!

Double Rifle Shooters Society
11 September 2008, 07:20
Blair338/378quote:
Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
I shot Missippians 600 and I did not find the recdoil to be that bad, he will have to tell us what load I shot.
However, do not stand near him when he shoots a tree, as 2 cords of wood fly off the tree in large pieces and knock down all bystanders.

I will say that his 600 was put together very nicely.
You blokes are all bloody mad

Verbera!, Iugula!, Iugula!!!
Blair.
11 September 2008, 07:26
Conquote:
Originally posted by Blair338/378:
You blokes are all bloody mad
Blair,
That they are ... but it's a loveable kind of mad!

Cheers...
Con
11 September 2008, 07:40
RIPI have seen the video.
Invigorating!

You do need to get some real bullets for it though, since that Woodleigh RNSP did not make it through one 55-gallon water barrel lengthwise.

That is a WBT score of only 3.
The WBT will be a lot cheaper for future penetration testing of softs.
Better get at least 3 of the 55-gallon barrels lined up end-to-end if you test FN solids, or 8 to 10 of the 5-gallon water buckets for the Water Bucket Train.
Of course a 900-grain .620-cal Weldcore does make a lot of hurt for one barrel. I am sure it was completely blood shot throughout.
How about some red food color in a WBT for best video effect?

11 September 2008, 08:28
srshooterSAFARIKID, are you going to carry one of your Sheriff's Model BFR's as backup to that flyweight .600 OK ele-stompin'spine wrecker? They are made for each other imo!!!!
I love what I've seen of your collection but those two give me nightmares!!!!
Tom = THE MAN!

11 September 2008, 10:58
Gerhard.DelportI really got a kick by watching the video.
Awesome.
Gerhard
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www.fffsafaris.co.za 11 September 2008, 11:34
Safari-HuntDamn Damn Damn, when is it coming to Africa would love to see big stuff being shot with it.
Great work guys !

Frederik Cocquyt
I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good.
11 September 2008, 11:37
bobby van der Putten600 overkill a lady's gun compared to this one !!
http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/features/258443/VIDEO_ST...e_twobore_rifle.html11 September 2008, 17:48
500grainsHoly Moly Safarikid! When I am man enough to pull the trigger on such a rifle, I will let you guys know. Until then, I think I will stick to the .223.

11 September 2008, 17:52
500grainsquote:
Originally posted by bobby van der Putten:
600 overkill a lady's gun compared to this one !!
http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/features/258443/VIDEO_ST...e_twobore_rifle.html
CRIKEY! That rainy weather has made the Brits crazy!
11 September 2008, 18:12
SAFARIKIDThat things a pussycat!(But I want one!)

quote:
Originally posted by bobby van der Putten:
600 overkill a lady's gun compared to this one !!
http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/features/258443/VIDEO_ST...e_twobore_rifle.html
"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
11 September 2008, 19:35
Overkill from swedenVery nice rifle safarikid
A perfect rifle for me when I hunt moose
"If he is getting 2100fps from the Rogue, no telling what I could get from my 22 incher! shocker"
How much velocity is possible with a 22 inch barrel? I know 2400 FPS is max with a 26 incher..???
It seems to me that a shorter barrel dont loose that much velocity in the .600 OK
But if 2300 FPS is possible in a 22" barrel.. wouldnt a 26 incher get more than 2400 FPS

Sorry for my bad english!
Regards // OK
11 September 2008, 20:45
RobgunbuilderAh just loves it when another child is born! Tom- hope you have lots of good luck with it.My next one is going to be about the same weight.
Sure does clobber stuff!-Rob
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11 September 2008, 20:55
SAFARIKIDThanks Guys! Life is Good!

Rob,put those bullets in a USPS Flate rate box and no matter the weight,it will only cost $10 bucks to ship them to my man...

"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
11 September 2008, 22:18
CCMDocquote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Ah just loves it when another child is born! Tom- hope you have lots of good luck with it.My next one is going to be about the same weight.
Sure does clobber stuff!-Rob
I was thinking the same thing - get one exactly like Tom's - looks good and less filling!

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12 September 2008, 04:59
surestrikeDUUUUUUUDE!
That is way COOL......
12 September 2008, 20:48
trophyhunter5000quote:
Maybe I need to try some Varget. If he is getting 2100fps from the Rogue, no telling what I could get from my 22 incher!
Ditto...
Been working with H4350 myself...
150 grains with a 900 gr Woodie = 1975 fps out of my 20 incher...
Have not had a chance to incrementally step up the load yet...
But if he is getting 2100 with 145 gr of Varget out of 16 incher I may be wasting my time with H4350...
Cool Vid by the way...
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24 October 2008, 16:53
hhmagMan, I dig that. I notice they also have a video on "the lightest 500 Jeff if the world"
Anyone know the particulars on that? Mine is pretty light--BRNO 602 with a 17.5"bbl (with a 2" long brake, I'm a wimp) and Richard's stock with the "lightweight" option weighs in at 7 1/4 lb. empty.
Hair, not Air!
Rob Martin
24 October 2008, 17:24
600 Overkillquote:
Originally posted by trophyhunter5000:
quote:
Maybe I need to try some Varget. If he is getting 2100fps from the Rogue, no telling what I could get from my 22 incher!
Ditto...
Been working with H4350 myself...
150 grains with a 900 gr Woodie = 1975 fps out of my 20 incher...
Have not had a chance to incrementally step up the load yet...
But if he is getting 2100 with 145 gr of Varget out of 16 incher I may be wasting my time with H4350...
Cool Vid by the way...
That sound about right. I'm getting 2040 fps w/ 155grs H-4350 in my 20"r. This is my best accuracy load to data with the Woodie 900's and WOW when it hits

24 October 2008, 20:47
RobgunbuilderPray for the cost of copper to come down to $2/lb. Then the cost of my cup point 900gr copper boreriders becomes affordable. You guys with the short barrels should see 50 to 75fps higher velocity with the same powder charge. Maybe a little more with Moly coating. So far the cost of Diesel and copper are the only benefits I see from the economic meltdown.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
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25 October 2008, 07:04
SAFARIKIDquote:
Originally posted by hhmag:
Man, I dig that. I notice they also have a video on "the lightest 500 Jeff if the world"
Anyone know the particulars on that? Mine is pretty light--BRNO 602 with a 17.5"bbl (with a 2" long brake, I'm a wimp) and Richard's stock with the "lightweight" option weighs in at 7 1/4 lb. empty.
YES,That was mine too!...I also had him build me a 4 1/2pd .416RemMag and just got my 5pd 458Lott from him(titanium and Kevlar with a looong 18" barrel!

"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
26 October 2008, 00:11
AtkinsonThat one will surely put my 5.5 lb. 505 gibbs Imp. to shame..I shot mine twice before I sold it..It grouped 12 feet for two shots..one dead center in the bull and the second shot a called flinch, or rather a screamed flinch, hit the dirt half way to the target..I took it home hammered out the trigger guard where I warped it by jerking the trigger and sold that puppy!

Ray Atkinson
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26 October 2008, 01:45
hhmagIn it's original form my jeff was 5.5lb. That had to change! I'm 6'-4" and a touch over 300lb. and that was too much for me. The way it sits now is just right, but it has still claimed 2 black eyes and maybe a broken collar bone among my buddies.
The brake on mine wasn't really for recoil reduction, and it barely works for that, but more for muzzle flip. I "point" with the off hand, so I have a weaker hold. The brake I use just pushes the barrel down.
I would imagine that my jeff smacks me around a bit less than the overkill pounds you. If you're ever in Florida...
Hair, not Air!
Rob Martin
26 October 2008, 03:47
SAFARIKIDNot at all trying to be a showoff/smartazz,but I just dont understand how my "Light-Heavies" dont do all that to me?..Heck,my 4 bore was made by 55 year old tall,skinny,145pds wet Ken Owen and he made 5 of them and HE Regulates them all(Have pics of him doing so)...I guess some are more recoil prone than others?!

I am 6ft,240 but I have heard that the heavier guys actually can get more recoil absorbed than the bantam weights...kinda makes sense...I DO Know that stock design is Really Important though as my 600NE Osborne double at 13 pds Kicks/HURTS way more at 1900fps loads do than my much lighter 600OK's do!...Granted,the lighter the gun,the more it has to kick(all else being equal)..But,if I had a shoulder gun that gives me black eyes and broken this and that,I would sell it too!

....I build light now to carry alot and I dont hammer all day long with them at the range,get them sighted and ready for the hunt,thats all...now and then a day of "plinking" at turtles,nutria and rabid trees!...Look at the video of Mike here,the smith who built the 8pd Rogue 600OK...He is a avg joe and handles it well..I know Most of ya'll like the 500s and above to weigh from 10-16 pds with 24-28" tubes!..."to each his own"...great range guns,but give ME the better handling shorter lightweights

"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !