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13 September 2009, 07:12
MJinesThe Stuff That Dreams Are Made Of
. . . when I get around to building another custom it will be the identical twin to this rifle in .318 Westley Richards. The lines on this rifle are damn near perfect in my opinion. And yes I know it is not a big bore, but the folks on the big bore forum are the ones that can really appreciate a rifle of this style.
Mike
13 September 2009, 07:17
jsl3170i thought the 318 WR and its modern twin, the 338-06 was no good as compared to the 9.3? that is gorgeous!
13 September 2009, 07:28
BaxterBI have drooled over that rifle ever since I saw it in their catal;og, It may be damn neat perfect to you, but I think it is perfect; i do not see one thing I would change.
13 September 2009, 07:30
505EDI've always liked the look of the WR pat front sight.
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13 September 2009, 08:28
ozhunterquote:
Originally posted by 505ED:
I've always liked the look of the WR pat front sight.
Ed
Yes, they look good but are not all that practical.
They need to be open to get a good view, but when open they are a point to snag bushes.
I still like it though.
Since seeing that picture years ago, the WR has been "a" most desirable rifle for me...
So when I found this .425WR in Africa, there was only one thing to do..
13 September 2009, 09:12
a.tinkererI'd go with a different floor plate release.
Fabulous rifle though!
Cheers
Tinker
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13 September 2009, 12:21
RIPquote:
Originally posted by a.tinkerer:
I'd go with a different floor plate release.
Fabulous rifle though!
Cheers
Tinker
Ditto.
I too think that is the raciest piece of gunporn ever!
Though I would not kick her out of bed just over her floor plate release,
I would want the fashionistas at Bell & Carlson to make her a "Kevlar" skirt, shaped just like the one that Westley Richards did in walnut.
Her cup size would also be more desirable at 404J instead of 318WR.
Then she would be ready for some rough riding.
And I want her identical twin in stainless with Gunkote makeup too.

13 September 2009, 12:24
Macifejquote:
Originally posted by RIP:
quote:
Originally posted by a.tinkerer:
I'd go with a different floor plate release.
Fabulous rifle though!
Cheers
Tinker
Ditto.
I too think that is the raciest piece of gunporn ever!
Though I would not kick her out of bed just over her floor plate release,
I would want the fashionistas at Bell & Carlson to make her a "Kevlar" skirt, shaped just like the one that Westley Richards did in walnut.
Her cup size would also be more desirable at 404J instead of 318WR.
Then she would be ready for some rough riding.
And I want her identical twin in stainless with Gunkote makeup too.
So .....?? A totally different dame then!!

13 September 2009, 16:59
shootawayNot my dreams-that rifle looks to factory-like to me.
13 September 2009, 17:19
jro45I'm into big bores. That is a very nice rifle.
13 September 2009, 19:03
shootawayI don't know what the aim of this company is,but if it's to produce many rifles and become big and rich then their rifles will reflect that.IMO,there is a factory approach to building a highend rifle.
13 September 2009, 20:56
Express_RiflesNot my dreams-that rifle looks to factory-like to me. quote
Shootaway you seem to be the dumbest person on AR that would be a Westley Richards rifle hand built and probally 25,000

13 September 2009, 21:00
Idaho Sharpshooterhe's from Montreal, probably thinking in metric...
Beautiful rifle, classic lines and flawless execution to these eyes. I would agree it might be a bit more of a "Hottie" in 404J, but a set might be even better. I could find room for this at my house.
Rich
13 September 2009, 21:09
RustyDamn pretty, Mike! Gun porn!
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13 September 2009, 21:57
SevensDoes WR include a handkerchief to wipe up your tears when the rifle gets a scratch?
That's an awesome rifle!
14 September 2009, 01:05
RIPA shootaway quote! My eyes! The pain! I'm tearing up as if CS gassed! I need a hanky too!
It's like he works hard at coming up with the stupidest thing to say about any topic!
This one gets a 5-DOH! rating from me.

14 September 2009, 02:12
jjsquote:
Originally posted by MJines:
. . . when I get around to building another custom it will be the identical twin to this rifle in .318 Westley Richards. The lines on this rifle are damn near perfect in my opinion. And yes I know it is not a big bore, but the folks on the big bore forum are the ones that can really appreciate a rifle of this style.
Mike,
Ever since I first saw this rifle, posted on AR a few years back, it has been a part of my dreams as well.
I have been attempting to have one built very similar to the lines of that rifle since 2006. Not much I would change but mine will be a 404 Jeffery.
Finally I believe I found a gun maker to produce it and hopefully I will have it in my hands by July 2010....and shortly thereafter taking it to Africa!
Best,
Jim
14 September 2009, 06:23
CanuckIt is gorgeous, but I'm not a fan of the front sight. Call me un-couth but they look they are on backwards to me.
14 September 2009, 07:18
thunder stickI've been saving pictures of classics like this as reference material for my 404 project. This one will be added to the group. Very nice indeed.
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14 September 2009, 08:08
jorgequote:
Originally posted by jjs:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
. . . when I get around to building another custom it will be the identical twin to this rifle in .318 Westley Richards. The lines on this rifle are damn near perfect in my opinion. And yes I know it is not a big bore, but the folks on the big bore forum are the ones that can really appreciate a rifle of this style.
Mike,
Ever since I first saw this rifle, posted on AR a few years back, it has been a part of my dreams as well.
I have been attempting to have one built very similar to the lines of that rifle since 2006. Not much I would change but mine will be a 404 Jeffery.
Finally I believe I found a gun maker to produce it and hopefully I will have it in my hands by July 2010....and shortly thereafter taking it to Africa!
Best,
Jim
Who is building it for you Jim? jorge
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14 September 2009, 09:12
cmfic1That is gorgeous, I love that dark wood.....pure elegance
I personally may prefer a different sight, and maybe slide the bbl. band back a bit, but awesome rifle none the less.
Rod
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14 September 2009, 18:52
jjsquote:
Originally posted by jorge:
quote:
Originally posted by jjs:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
. . . when I get around to building another custom it will be the identical twin to this rifle in .318 Westley Richards. The lines on this rifle are damn near perfect in my opinion. And yes I know it is not a big bore, but the folks on the big bore forum are the ones that can really appreciate a rifle of this style.
Mike,
Ever since I first saw this rifle, posted on AR a few years back, it has been a part of my dreams as well.
I have been attempting to have one built very similar to the lines of that rifle since 2006. Not much I would change but mine will be a 404 Jeffery.
Finally I believe I found a gun maker to produce it and hopefully I will have it in my hands by July 2010....and shortly thereafter taking it to Africa!
Best,
Jim
Who is building it for you Jim? jorge
Hello Jorge:
I hope all is going well with you and your family. Ralph Martini is going to build the rifle....website
www.martiniandhagngunmakers.com15 September 2009, 05:09
J_ZolaMJines, You may want to ask 577NitroExpress about his sons rifle
http://forums.accuratereloadin...=706108626#706108626That stock has cause many a heart to skip.
15 September 2009, 09:37
cmfic1I checked the link, looks like its gonna be (or is) a smokin nice rifle.........but wonder where the updated pics are?
Rod
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15 September 2009, 10:22
333_OKHshoot me now, but those front sights look like a drunk gunsmith put them on backwards. that said, that was a rifle used as a pattern for my custom....only different front sight.
15 September 2009, 11:13
boom stickIt is HIS dream rifle...
Just needs a kevlar stock in stainless with hi viz front sight with a peep rear

15 September 2009, 14:23
Bent FossdalIt is as good as it gets, but look long and hard on the plazement of the scope before you copy that...
Unless you are shaped very strange, that scope need to come at least one inch foreward, or you need stocks in the bandaid-industry.
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15 September 2009, 17:47
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
It is as good as it gets, but look long and hard on the plazement of the scope before you copy that...
Unless you are shaped very strange, that scope need to come at least one inch foreward, or you need stocks in the bandaid-industry.
I think it looks just about right-that is 13 inches from the end of the buttstock for a large caliber,non bigbore.
15 September 2009, 18:36
<Mike McGuire>quote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
It is as good as it gets, but look long and hard on the plazement of the scope before you copy that...
Unless you are shaped very strange, that scope need to come at least one inch foreward, or you need stocks in the bandaid-industry.
And distance between centre of butt and bore is about like Wby.

Nothing suprising there as all Roy did was take the old English guns and add a cheek piece. Some of the H&H stuff has the centre of the butt even further below the bore.
But if you engrave H&H on the barrel the stock design will have no recoil problems but if Weatherby is on the action it changes all.

16 September 2009, 01:27
MikelravyI like the scope up almost flush with the cocking piece when cocked. That one is definitely too far back for me. Must not be a Leupold.
16 September 2009, 05:11
ozhunterquote:
Originally posted by Mikelravy:
I like the scope up almost flush with the cocking piece when cocked. That one is definitely too far back for me. Must not be a Leupold.
Yes, its a Schmidt&Bender and is a little to close for comfort (about 1" to far back for an average person), unless you have big shoulders and a thick coat on.
Most available mounts would allow the scope to be moved forward anyway.
16 September 2009, 05:33
FjoldThe crank's on the wrong side but other than that it looks like it would do.
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16 September 2009, 08:46
Canuckquote:
Originally posted by jjs:
quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
quote:
Originally posted by jjs:
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
. . . when I get around to building another custom it will be the identical twin to this rifle in .318 Westley Richards. The lines on this rifle are damn near perfect in my opinion. And yes I know it is not a big bore, but the folks on the big bore forum are the ones that can really appreciate a rifle of this style.
Mike,
Ever since I first saw this rifle, posted on AR a few years back, it has been a part of my dreams as well.
I have been attempting to have one built very similar to the lines of that rifle since 2006. Not much I would change but mine will be a 404 Jeffery.
Finally I believe I found a gun maker to produce it and hopefully I will have it in my hands by July 2010....and shortly thereafter taking it to Africa!
Best,
Jim
Who is building it for you Jim? jorge
Hello Jorge:
I hope all is going well with you and your family. Ralph Martini is going to build the rifle....website
www.martiniandhagngunmakers.com
Cool. Let me know when they are working on it.

I can check on progress for you and try not to drool on it. Their shop is just down the road from me.

16 September 2009, 10:44
Thomas JonesI,ll take one in 9.3X62 and a twin in 416 rigby. and I supose Since I am fantisizing , how about a little .257 roberts or 7X57.
I can't improve much on that.
I really would prefer a simple single flip up rear sight. The extra leavs look good though, But a agree with Jon Taylor.
They serv no purpose. ...tj3006
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16 September 2009, 13:06
300H&HI've always considered the lines of those rifles to be graceful, but the second you try to sight down one with a scope, all is lost...
In my view, it's an open sight stock design. The best counter-measure I saw was a pop-up cheekpiece on a schoenauer rife... It was on sale at gunbroker, I eyed it for awhile, and I believe a fellow forum member picked it up for a good price... now I have non-buyer's remorse!
I love open sights though. Maybe that comes from impractically placing target scopes on high power rifles. Shoot once, pick up lens from glasses, replace and fire again...
16 September 2009, 13:18
300H&HPS: I love the front sight! Impractical? Yes! I don't get big beads on front sights... Close range? Night sight? "Okay, I wounded a griz or cape buff, remove scope and proceed into the brush..."
--- WHO does that?!
I hate the look of a rifle w/out open sights, but loathe the wood stocked-classic, pseudo-tactical nature of adding them when you have a perfectly capable schmidt & bender.
That said, every rifle should have open sights. It's like pants. I need them, they probably wouldn't hurt in a job interview, but my work speaks for itself...
and no I'm not an engineer.
16 September 2009, 16:29
zhabaI agree

I would love to have that beauty next to the .500 & 404 jeffery in the safe what an armoury
