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Should we call the ARs and the 550 express....

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19 September 2006, 18:43
jeffeosso
Should we call the ARs and the 550 express....
The SLAM series?
Standard Length Action Magnums?

550 Express - 2.65" case, 3.35 OAL
550 AR - 2.50" case, 3.35 nominal OAL
470, 458, 416 AR - 2.55" caes, 3.35 oal

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Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
19 September 2006, 19:34
Bill/Oregon
Jeffe: Almost hate to think of the ARs as magnums, since they don't have no stinking belts ...


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19 September 2006, 20:54
Idaho Sharpshooter
Right On Bill!!!

Tough call Jeffe, but perhaps it is time I introduce you to a friend who IS head of R&D at a rifle manufacturer. Check your PM box.

Rich
20 September 2006, 08:03
Hog Killer
quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Jeffe: Almost hate to think of the ARs as magnums, since they don't have no stinking belts ...


The name "Magnum" as apllied to cartridge cases, came from the wine industry. It only refers to large volume, as in a Magnum of Champain(sp?).

Hog Killer


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20 September 2006, 08:06
.366torque
SLAM has an image conjuring sound to it. I like it!! cheers
20 September 2006, 08:10
Hog Killer
jeffe, I do not like acronims on cartridges. Makers/designers name are fine by me.

So, 416/458/470/500/550Jeffe would be all right by me. As you are the man who designed these rounds.

Hog Killer


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20 September 2006, 13:02
Bent Fossdal
Hola, Jeffe!

I do not see anything wrong with AR or Express. They are already established rounds, renaming would just be confusing! Like, does anybody know what RIP's cartridges are called today? Wink


Bent Fossdal
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Norway

20 September 2006, 18:21
jeffeosso
OKay, so no slam line...

heh...SLAM line...

sounds like something you wouold see,,, well, nevermind!
jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
20 September 2006, 21:13
boom stick
quote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
Hola, Jeffe!

I do not see anything wrong with AR or Express. They are already established rounds, renaming would just be confusing! Like, does anybody know what RIP's cartridges are called today? Wink
animal


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20 September 2006, 22:00
boom stick
if we are "marketing" to the outside it would make some sense to change the name. if it is an exclusive a.r. club thing it does not matter. we can make the outside world jealous or give it a chest beating name to lure in more users. i do like express...just add it to the name 470 a.r. express....and when el jeffe sells out to a manufacturer and becomes wealthy you can just drop the a.r. and all will be o.k. thumb


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20 September 2006, 23:30
JMJ888
quote:
if we are "marketing" to the outside it would make some sense to change the name.


I agree. Any mention of the "AR" rounds here on the board and most people know what you are talking about...but to the laymen they may associate the AR name with the AR-15...thinking 458 SOCOM.

You could always take the Lazzeroni route...convert them to metric and give them goofy names. Big Grin
20 September 2006, 23:39
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by JMJ888:
You could always take the Lazzeroni route...convert them to metric and give them goofy names. Big Grin


okay, you are right, it was BAD idea


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
21 September 2006, 11:23
RIP
Yep, I groaned too at the thought of renaming cartridges. animal

For the record, these won't change anymore, the RIPoff line of cartridges (may still be too confusing for the unsophisticated): rotflmo

.308/300 Lapua RIPoff
.375/.338 Lapua RIPoff
.423/.338 Lapua RIPoff
.458/.338 Lapua RIPoff
500/470 Mbogo RIPoff

That is it, my Big Five. There will be no more of this idiocy for me.

The RIPoff family of cartridges, all derived from the .416 Rigby case and all working through a Rigby-sized action, so common today.

Brass as good as it gets too: Lapua and Jamison.

I better add that list to my signature, lest y'all forget, again.
wave
21 September 2006, 11:56
470CapstickA2
I like

458 Texan
500 Texan
550 No shit Texan

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21 September 2006, 16:48
gixxer
quote:
Originally posted by 470CapstickA2:
I like

458 Texan
500 Texan
550 No shit Texan

jumping


yup, cause everything's bigger in Texas, right? thumb But the No Shitter takes the cake. Just think, with an all American name like that, you could reach out to the fringe hick and redneck crowd!! rotflmo

"Hey Jimmie Rae, you take a gander at that new 500 Texan down @ the Wal Mart?" Rock on guys.
22 September 2006, 14:16
Bent Fossdal
One can always call them ARC's, Accurate Reloading Cartridge, for those who think of the AR-15.

But the .550 Express can not be renamed, please! Neither its big brother .550 Magnum. Their simple names will make them survivors!


Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway

23 September 2006, 02:05
RIP
quote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
Their simple names will make them survivors!


.308 Lapua (not .300 Lapua)
.375 Lapua
.423 Lapua
.458 Lapua
500 Mbogo

rotflmo
23 September 2006, 15:25
Bent Fossdal
quote:
Originally posted by RIP:
quote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
Their simple names will make them survivors!


.308 Lapua (not .300 Lapua)
.375 Lapua
.423 Lapua
.458 Lapua
500 Mbogo

rotflmo


Well, heck, RIP! If ya gonna steal names, why not just call them H&H? animal


Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway

24 September 2006, 06:23
RIP
quote:
Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:

Well, heck, RIP! If ya gonna steal names, why not just call them H&H? animal


Geez, that's a dumb question, Bent. Roll Eyes

It is the RIPoff line, but I am not ripping off H&H. Wink