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I am a newbie embarking on a project to build a .416 Taylor. I am wondering about rate of twist? I am told that 1:14 is standard for the .416's? Should this change for a shorter barrel(mine is going to be 21") or bullets? or for any other reasonably forseeable reason? | ||
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Douglas makes 12 and 14 twists. I've got both. I don't see any difference in accuracy or stability. Probably a non-issue. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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I went with a 1:12 for mine nice clover leaf groups with all I shoot in it. | |||
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p dog shooter, Can you offer more details on your taylor? | |||
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I went with the 12" twist for my 23" barreled 416 Taylor. Shoots well. Cheers, Canuck | |||
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What is the hypothetical benefit from 1:12 vs. 1:14? | |||
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I haven't gotten it yet, but I was/am having one built for my stepfather with a 1:16" twist, 24" barrel. that is closer to the original 416 rigby spec which was about 1:16-1:16.5 I am having a Rigby built for myself and ordered same twist for that. in fact, barrel might be done, I have just been bad about keeping on top of these gun things. increasing family size and a hotrod cut into it. Red | |||
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"More than enough twist for any situation" is better than "not enough twist for some situations." Always go for a faster twist than the traditional old standard for the shorter lead-cored bullets, if you want to use every bullet available within the span of modern bullets. Inside of 500 yards, overstabilization causing inaccuracy is a non-issue. Excessive pressure with faster twist at a given velocity: all the excess pressure of a mouse fart. Extra spin will stabilize the transition from air to denser media, including game animals whose mud-caked surfaces are not normal to the path of the bullet: gives a good start at straight penetration and then dart and shoulder stabilization take over. I have .416 rifles with twists of 16.5, 14, and 12 inches. The last one I had built was a 1:12" twist .416 Dakota. The last one I bought was a ready-made .416 Barrett with 1:12" twist. Any other .416 I build will be a 12" twist. George Hoffman got by with 14" twists but opined that 12" would be better for his next one. I am sure he carries a 12" twist .416 in The Happy Hunting Ground. Use enough gun and more than enough twist, and you will never be sorry, unless it is at a 1000-yard shooting match and your group size opens up by 0.2 MOA. ![]() .416 Taylor, 23" or 24" barrel, 1:12" Twist, sporter contour No.4 or No.5 Douglas, or whatever muzzle diameter between .666" and .700": Sounds perfect to me. | |||
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....Or a 416 Taylor 19 " barrel 14" twist ,,or a 416 Taylor 18" barrel 14" twist ....Both are Brown bear killin machines .....The 18" has been backin up clients for 2 seasons now and even with the 350 gr Speer bullet @ 2350 it tips over 9 plus foot bears .............. ...My 416 Rem has a 10" twist works well , but may be a slow barrel ......... .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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GDOG My taylor is a Ruger MKII stainless that was a 338wm. I put a 1:12 25 inch douglas stainless barrel on it. The only sights it wears is a 1.75x6 leupold. It weighs 10 lbs on the head scoped loaded and slinged. It weighed 8lbs 4 oz when I got it back from the smith with scope. I glass bedded the factory syt stock and added the extra weight. | |||
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great and simple project.. just do it.. anything faster than 18 will work just fine jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Words aren't Murder - Political assassination is MURDER Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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