A buddy of mine (fellow big bore addict, goes by 'axle' here) and I took a break from deer hunting at camp this year and shot the 500 A2 at "dangerous water jugs" and "dangerous firewood logs". I took some vid clips of axle shooting and thought I'd share them here....

axle and the 500 A2, Dangerous Water Jug in a static charge...



axle and the 500 A2, Dangerous Firewood Log....check out how it flips over. The bullets (600gr Hawk "hand grenades") did not make it through the approx 16" log!



For comparison, here is axle with his 458 WM (a new CZ 550), shooting 510gr Woodleighs at the same log. The bullets whistle through....



Here are the recovered .510 600gr Hawk bullets....would make a great deer bullet, eh!





Cheers,
Canuck

Chris, glad to see that Axel saved your CANADIAN BACON from the DWJ and the DFL.

Keith

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Originally posted by Hog Killer:
Chris, glad to see that Axel saved your CANADIAN BACON from the DWJ and the DFL.

Keith

next try jugs on a zip line with a pulley and carbeaner for a "jug charge" a one gallon jug should be about the size of vitals

maybe $30 in materials for some fun shooting

Thanks for the critique boomie. Anytime I am feeling good about something I'll make sure to run it by you first to find out how I could have done it better.

Sheesh, you know, its bizarre....a guy goes out and actually uses a big bore and his post gets nothing more than a passing glance, yet mental masturbatory topics like SD, or the mere mention of a 45-70 and the thread gets lit up like a house on fire.

I guess I should have made this a "500 A2 versus 45-70 on DWJ's" thread!!!

Think I'll jazz up the title of the thread a little....


Canuck

Just thought a moving water bucket would be fun...not that there is anything wrong with static charges.

I enjoyed the videos...thanks fer posting

How about the title "follow up shots on dangerous thick skinned buckets"

Chris...yer a great guy and gun nut

Even better......

A thread on how the .45-70 is a far superior thick skinned bucket charge stopper with 300 FPS ammo than any of those over rated "heavy" rifles out there.

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Originally posted by surestrike:
Even better......

A thread on how the .45-70 is a far superior thick skinned bucket charge stopper with 300 FPS ammo than any of those over rated "heavy" rifles out there.

I can supply a 2-Bore Wrist Rocket for comparison testing.

You guys under estimate the potential severity of injury at the hands of a charging california DWJ

a "2 bore wristrocket" ....

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Originally posted by Canuck:
Sheesh, you know, its bizarre....a guy goes out and actually uses a big bore and his post gets nothing more than a passing glance, yet mental masturbatory topics like SD, or the mere mention of a 45-70 and the thread gets lit up like a house on fire.

Canuck

Chris, it is not "bizarre". It is perpornal, between the BSer and the actual big bore shooters.

Keith

It looks like those 458 shots are pure misses.

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Originally posted by tt:
It looks like those 458 shots are pure misses.

The video quality was reduced significantly when I uploaded it to Photobucket. If you look real close though, you can see the block of wood shake, especially on the first one (or maybe its just me because I have seen the high quality video and am expecting it??). Anyway, the shots impacted within an inch of each other, very near the center of the block. They seem to have exited going in slightly different directions though, based on the impacts on the bank behind the log.


Canuck

Canuck,

I think it is pretty cool, expecially the "knock on wood" difference between the big gun and that puny 458.

Rich
DRSS
Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost...

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Canuck,

I think it is pretty cool, expecially the "knock on wood" difference between the big gun and that puny 458.

Rich
DRSS
Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost...

Thanks Rich. I agree! The difference on the shooter is pretty obvious too!

The difference on the log might not have been quite as disparate if the 458 bullets didn't exit though.

Cheers,
Chris

Chris,
So is the difference on buffalo. I don't think I would use those Hawks on deer unless you aren't interested in eating too much venison. I shot a nice buck this year with a 535gr Woodleigh PSP and "accidently" hit the offside shoulder. I lost the entire front quarter with the brain fart (along with a head sided portion of the onside rib cage).

Think how cool it would be to shoot elks with 700+ grain subsonic bullets and rifle with suppressor. Here you just have to have 2000 J of energy in 100 metres, 1475 ft-lbs in 109 yard. Suppressors are not regulated, just 139< grain bullet and those energies.

<Talking to VHF radio>

- "Come to pick this elk up, it has 0,5" hole in it"

- "WHAT!? We have heard nothing!"

- "Still, bring the car"


I ended up to 500 S&W -rifle, just some legal issues before I can start my project. First I thought that I'll have 50 Alaskan, 500 A-Square or 50 Beowulf, but I have almost unlimited supply of 500 S&W brass so ended up to that. A-Square would also be nice, modern looking cartridge and 0,510" bullets, but I don't like belted cases so much as rimles. I somehow happen to like rimles, sharp shouldered "Ackley Improved" -look-alikes with pointed and streamlined bullets. 500 Mbogo, that would be nice.

Uh?..........Subsonic, supressed, Elk hunting?

Hey Dude! You should be over in the Political or Miltary forums with that.


BTW - don't know where you are hunting your Elk but on this continent Subsonic, Suppressed, Elk Pistols will get you 10 or more years in Federal Prison.

I'm guessing you're from a country where the Elk will actually fit in a car!

Don't worry, here it is legal. It's funny how laws differ, here regulated gun parts and ammunition related items are barrel, chamber and bolt, primers, powder and loaded cartridges, in the US just receiver, am I right? Then you can't have flash hider or suppressor without funny taxes, here you can add anything to your gun. The only restriction is just possibility of heart attack among older conservative hunters who have used to .308 Win rifle with wooden stock and poor riflescope. Yes, and here you can't hunt with handguns.

...and I meant that car with trailer.

My opinnion is that suppressor is as natural part of any gun as recoil absorbing pad, by using suppressor you can hear elks even when you are 50 years old, not to mention dogs.

tt,
You show excellent taste in "Fifties."
The 500 S&W "Whisper" concept is interesting.
When will this be done in a Lever Action to go with the horse pistol?

I do have a 500 Mbogo under construction ... finally.

Chris,
Sensationalizing the thread title seems to have helped. Thanks for posting. The pass-through .458 is definitely different than a Hawk-Bomb .510-cal/600gr ... similar to a Woodleigh pushed too fast from the 500 A2 ...

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Originally posted by Canuck:

quote:

Originally posted by tt:
It looks like those 458 shots are pure misses.

The video quality was reduced significantly when I uploaded it to Photobucket. If you look real close though, you can see the block of wood shake, especially on the first one (or maybe its just me because I have seen the high quality video and am expecting it??). Anyway, the shots impacted within an inch of each other, very near the center of the block. They seem to have exited going in slightly different directions though, based on the impacts on the bank behind the log.


Canuck

I saw the log flinch; twice. Fun video!

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by using suppressor you can hear elks even when you are 50 years old, not to mention dogs.

Excellent point!! Would be nice to have that option here too.

Cheers,
Canuck

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Chris,
Sensationalizing the thread title seems to have helped.

Yah, I am going to have to keep that in mind for future reference.

Thanks,
Chris

So then you would have to hunt your silent Elk at 100 yard ranges otherwise you'd need more velocity than you could suppress. Of course if you can get that close maybe you could just drop out of a tree on the Elk with a big ass knife!

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I saw the log flinch; twice. Fun video!

Glad it isn't just me! Thanks!

Cheers,
Canuck

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Originally posted by Canuck:
Here are the recovered .510 600gr Hawk bullets....would make a great deer bullet, eh!

Here you can see one of the reason for my interest in big calibers. I don't like to eat lead, so I favor copper bullets. In small calibers like .308 Win, something like 13g (200 grain) Lapua Naturalis is the heaviest commercially available copper bullet, but in "This you can call rifle cartridge"-calibers, as my friend said when showing 50 BMG, 300 grain bullets are the lightest available.

Do you have any experience in 0,510" caliber Hornady A-Max?

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Do you have any experience in 0,510" caliber Hornady A-Max?

I haven't tried them....have only had the 500 A2 for a fairly short time. Still figuring out what bullets I can get into Canada!!

Not sure if others here have??

Cheers,
Canuck

I wonder why the 458 bullets exited, but not the 500A2? different bullet? or less expansion due to lower velocity? the difference in recoil was certainly remarkable. What velocity did you load the 500 a2 to, canuck?

Canuck,

How does Alex like his .500 A-Square? Is it a Hannibal?

.........It isn,t stocked like a Hannible ...One time A guide ,a client and myself had a shooting competition down on the airstrip on the Mulchatna River .. The guide used his 338-06 , the client his 300 Whby and I used my 500 A-2 ..almost all the 338 and 300 bullets exited the roughly 10 " dia. white Spruce log which was about 4 feet long and supported by 4 other logs ..most of their shots hit the log .. mine hit about 2 " below center and knocked not only the target log backwards and over but it also knocked down those supporting it ...It was 100 paces down the runway They agreed that I won and that I didn,t need to shoot again ..The bullet I shot was a 600 gr Barnes Orig . with a muzzel velocity of 2310 fps ....114 gr of 4320 .That was about the best load as far as I was concerned ....The bullet penatrated about 26 " in a straight line ...It had the .049 jacket .........Canuck; What jacket did those .510 Hawks Axel shoots have ....,What load and velocity .....,.