Could shootaway really be Walter playing a trick on us?

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Originally posted by shootaway:
It goes for about 50 rds before the point of impact drops at 100yds.It's still good afterward but it's at its best for the first 50 shots.

shootawry,
The barrel should be starting to "break-in" and be getting better after 50 shots.

I suspect your POI drop is due to your muscular weakness. Maybe "lassitude" caused by diphenhydramine overdose? Hold the rifle higher and it will hit higher.

Or is this really just more of your "assitude?"

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Originally posted by RIP:
shootawry,
Or is this really just more of your "assitude?"

I think, RIP, that you are coming to the same conclusion as I did a couple of weeks back

Rip

Spot on. At 50 rounds, the barrel is probably still in the break-in phase.

I suspect that the Menace from Montreal may be eroding the barrels with his liberal use of a gritty bore paste coupled with his propensity to vigorously stroke his cleaning rod.

Either that, or he has used so much paste that it is actually filling the grooves with a compacted paste residue, making his rifle a smooth bore. When he starts firing rounds through a barrel with paste in the grooves, he is heating it up and turning it into a kind of cement.

Of course, it may also be possible that the drool bucket is leaking into the chamber and down the barrel. That would surely affect barrel life.

I love conversing with Shootaway to pick up knowledge that I may not have learned from any other responsible adults.

Shootaway, can you explain why benchrest shooters shooting itsy-bitsy bugholes past 100 yards are getting 1000+ rounds out of more overbore cartridges than your 458 Lott?

The 500gr bullets are harder on the rifling than BR bullets.Also,no barrel maker is going to tell you his barrel is good for only about 500 rds.There are people out there who have written books on the shooting sports and state that the life of magnum is about 500rds.I've named one guy here before.The 458 Lott does not wear out the throat like the 270WSM.The 270WSM stops shooting when the throat is completely gone but the rifling in the bore is still good.The 458 Lott loses its accuracy when the rifling erodes.

Especially them brassy looking .458 s I use, really cuts into barrel steel. Won't mention the brand as they have enough trouble allready.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
It goes for about 50 rds before the point of impact drops at 100yds.It's still good afterward but it's at its best for the first 50 shots.

One of the dumbest things EVER said on AR, for about 5 reasons

I still think it's that 36 grit tungsten carbide cleaning rod he's using ...



Chuck

Fifty rds is good for fifty buff if your good enough to need to shoot them once.

if you were in australia, you'd be a wanker....................

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Originally posted by JAL:
Especially them brassy looking .458 s I use, really cuts into barrel steel. Won't mention the brand as they have enough trouble allready.

I agree,I will not shoot broze solids.If I need a real solid I will use a Woodleigh FMJ.I might have one in my magazine this year.I am still trying to decide which bullets get to go.So far the 500gr Swift-A-Frame will be the first bullet down my barrel when I see the Buff.

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Originally posted by cc:
if you were in australia, you'd be a wanker....................

So,you believe you ARE Australia.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Fifty rds is good for fifty buff if your good enough to need to shoot them once.

AHHHHH.....words from a neophyte who has yet to take a dangerous game animal. Oh the niavete. Keep reading those books boy.

So how many rounds would you estimate the 30-378 Weatherby is worth Shootaway?

A hundred hot rds and the throat is gone.

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So he's getting at least 15,000 less rounds out of the Lott than anyone else. Lol!

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I agree,I will not shoot broze solids.If I need a real solid I will use a Woodleigh FMJ

Well, according to that, those ten Speer AGS solids I've fired through my lowly .375 should have me shotgunning all over the paper. Strangely enough, though, it still shoots MOA or less...

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Originally posted by silwane:

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Fifty rds is good for fifty buff if your good enough to need to shoot them once.

AHHHHH.....words from a neophyte who has yet to take a dangerous game animal. Oh the niavete. Keep reading those books boy.

On another thread, I gleaned that he is heading down to Africa, but what he is intending to shoot, I don't know. Or what with. This should prove interesting...

jetdrvr,I will be hunting one buff and plains game with my iron sighted Lott.I will get the hunt on video and if possible show it to you all.I know it might be difficult shooting a zebra,antelope,and what else with no scope.I am mostly interested in buff and would like the buff hunt to be like the ones I read about a long time ago in magazines like Petersons where everything was up close and really thrilling.

Can you explain why your barrels burn out so fast compared to the chart?

I've seen this chart posted before and never understood it.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I've seen this chart posted before and never understood it.

that explains ALOT

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by JAL:
Especially them brassy looking .458 s I use, really cuts into barrel steel. Won't mention the brand as they have enough trouble allready.

I agree,I will not shoot broze solids.If I need a real solid I will use a Woodleigh FMJ.I might have one in my magazine this year.I am still trying to decide which bullets get to go.So far the 500gr Swift-A-Frame will be the first bullet down my barrel when I see the Buff.

Bloody hell, that's what I get for trying to be funny. I was talking of the LOOK of Hornady softs.

Lol, this thread cracks me up every time I read a new post.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I've seen this chart posted before and never understood it.

that explains ALOT

Are you saynig that my barrel would last longer if I did?

There's no way your barrel should begin to wear out with the relatively few rounds you've put through it.

BTW, I strongly advise you to add a removable scope to your rifle. Shoot buff with irons if you wish, but you will substantially increase your chances of taking a trophy animal with a scope. This is your first buff hunt, and unless you can group five rounds into a five inch circle at fifty yards offhand with iron sights, you should be using a good, low power scope, like a Leupold VX III 1.5-5x20, for example.

You may not get a shot at PG with an un-scoped rifle. Remember...you'll pay for a wounded and lost animal just as if you collected it, so give yourself every edge you can. Plus, wounding an animal due to bad shot placement is not reccommended. Think of the poor wounded animal, being torn to pieces by jackals and hyenas. Not a pleasant death, and you'll be responsible if that happens.

You need help, pal. I just don't know how to offer any, but I'll try. You are about to undertake an experience where it is unlikely, but definitely possible that you and/or someone with you can get killed or seriously injured. This ain't no Capstick story. This shit is for real, and you are going to have to get it right the first time.

The barrel life chart is pretty well self-explanatory. Read the horizontal bar that includes your bore diameter. Then go to the top and pick a powder that approximates the burn rate of the powder you are loading.

http://www.reloadbench.com/burn.html

For example, if you are loading N550, the burn rates of the 4350 powders are almost identical, so on the barrel life chart you would use the 4350 heading above the barrel life column to get your barrel life, since there isn't one for N550. See what I mean?

Then, once you have determined the approximate burn rate, go to the barrel life chart, follow the vertical column down to the caliber chart and the figure you'll see there is your approximate barrel life.

There ain't no way you should burn out barrels on a lott at the rate you say you are unless something is terribly wrong.

And be careful where you point that thing when you're in the bush. Shooting your PH or a tracker is considered terribly bad taste.

About pointing rifles at a PH,I found that to be a really stupid and irresponsable comment.I go to Africa with no criminal record and living a life of not ever harming a single person.Not even accidentally.How about you?

Shootaway,

I've never harmed another person by accident. But I have harmed a few on purpose.

When you post your loading "data" and talk about your reloading practices you are on the road to harming others by accident. Those that might also be using a drool bucket with some regularity.

People like you who intentionally post dangerous load data are the ones who most likely need a little intentional harming.

Ken....

surestrike,I think you and others here have something against me personally.I don't know what is is exactly,I suspect it is because I don't come from the same corner of the world as you do.My loads have almost all been taken from searches here on AR.I make mistakes like everyone else and if there was a load that was too hot that I used myslelf then I apologize.If what you are saying is true,I think I would've been warned a long time ago about this and not have lasted six years.To accuse me of intentionally posting dangerous load data is foolish and irresponsible.I think you and others are trying hard to put something on me when there is nothing there.Winchester erroneously publishes data for the 500gr load in 458WM at 2240 and there is no problem when Shootaway hunts with a 180gr bullet at 2900fps in his 300WM it' because he wants to intentionally harm someone.Or when I kid about wearing a helmet so I don't get the scope in the eye,it's really because his loads are dangerously hot.Grow up.

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Originally posted by surestrike:
Shootaway,

I've never harmed another person by accident. But I have harmed a few on purpose.

When you post your loading "data" and talk about your reloading practices you are on the road to harming others by accident. Those that might also be using a drool bucket with some regularity.

People like you who intentionally post dangerous load data are the ones who most likely need a little intentional harming.

I hope you do not get paranoid like Silwane who thought it was me going into his credit card because he was frauded by someone who he says was from Montreal.

I think people get frustrated with you because you do not seem to learn. I joined this site several years ago before I was a teenager. I never claimed to know much, but now I am 16 and I have learned more about guns than I ever thought I would know. These people helped me get started reloading, taught me safe reloading practices, etc. Simple fact is your barrels don't "burn out" so soon, people who have MUCH more shooting experience than either of us should know. I don't understand your stubbornness.

Tyler Kemp,I know that many people don't agree with me on this topic and I respect there oppinion.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
About pointing rifles at a PH,I found that to be a really stupid and irresponsable comment.I go to Africa with no criminal record and living a life of not ever harming a single person.Not even accidentally.How about you?

DumbF#*K!

I try to help you and you come back with a crack like that about a simple cautionary line? Since you know so much, go ahead and screw up. I know this: your PH, poor bastard, has absolutely no idea what he's in for! You are absolutley, totally and completely pathetic. The thought of a fool like you wandering around the bush with a Lott, or any loaded firearm, is terrifying. Piss off!

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This guy has to be The World's Greatest Troll. There is no other explanation.

How can I be a troll if I shoot,reload,hunt and own fine rifles? Maybe your a troll? I am signing off this thread.