27 November 2017, 01:17
RIP470 Chap Stick and 470 Coup Stick
Consider this (a double-barreled assault on sensibility, started on the Wildcat forum, brought here for the greater traffic):
Use the 470 Capstick reamer inserted to desired length.
This gives it the 470 Capstick "ghost shoulder."
Then finish up with a .45-70 Govt. reamer for the base and rim.
Brass length of 1.6205" will make it a perfect match to the .45-70 base diameter (0.5055") above the usual rim,
thickness of 0.070" and rim diameter of 0.608".
Tapers from case mouth and ghost shoulder O.D. of 0.499": 0.0065" of taper over 1.5505" of case body above the rim,
and all of that taper is in the 1.05" below the ghost shoulder.
It is no mere .475 Linebaugh of only 1.4050" case length, with zero case body taper and reduced rim diameter.

My new wildcat is much more, more than 0.2" longer, full diameter rim, and some taper!
Not a .475 Linebaugh Long, nosirree!
I am going to call it the "470 Chap Stick."
Should be great in single-shots and double rifles.
Then there is the 2-inch long version of similar,
I am calling that the "470 Coup Stick."
Might warrant a custom reamer ...
Anybody heard of anything like that before?
This is totally different from the 470 Turnbull and 475 Turnbull.
Well, those are officially my 23rd and 24th Wildcat designs, independent of anyone else's reduplication of genius or stupidity.
I haven't built them all, but I am working on it.
Maybe a 25th?
Anyone who claims the .458 Winchester Magnum is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own sheepishness.
Rip...
27 November 2017, 02:13
jeffeossoapparently it's a seasonable condition,and it comes in waves
i have a reamer on order, basically a 475x120 ..
28 November 2017, 09:50
RIPquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
apparently it's a seasonable condition,and it comes in waves
i have a reamer on order, basically a 475x120 ..
SWD: Seasonal Wildcatting Disorder.
Your 475x120, is that maybe like the 47-140 (3-1/4") Sharps-Lang Necked only about a 3" case length?
Here are a couple of shorter ones:
Anyone who claims the .458 Winchester Magnum is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own sheepishness.
Rip...
01 December 2017, 01:02
boom stickSoooo a 75-50and 75-75?
I like the wheel gun platform idea for the Chapper.
26 January 2018, 22:58
dgr416I fired a real 470 capstick once will never do that again .That day I shot my 338-378,405 Winchester then my 416 rem mag many.times no problem.I shot that 470 chapstick once and never wanted to shoot anything bigger than my 416 rem mag again my recoil shooting limit .Good luck with your project !
27 January 2018, 00:30
RIPquote:
Originally posted by dgr416:
... Good luck with your project !
dgr416,
Capstick, Chapstick, whatever-stick, I get your drift.
I took a nap, woke up and forgot all about reinventing the wheel again.
The .475 Linebaugh LongCOL Ruger No.1 scratched that itch just fine.
No more wildcats for me.
Just non-SAAMI and non-CIP variations on existing themes.
BTW, it's a bit early in the day to be hitting the bottle so hard, eh?

Rip ...
27 January 2018, 05:51
DieseltruckerRip,
I really dig your wildcats. What bullet(s) and what is your target velocity?
27 January 2018, 10:39
RIPWhat did I say?
No more wildcats.
Go here
http://forums.accuratereloadin...851016832#9851016832.475-caliber, 500-grains and heavier for the .475 Linebaugh LongCOL "Mighty Mite" Rifle.

Rip ...
30 January 2018, 07:51
jlabreck7316quote:
Originally posted by dgr416:
I fired a real 470 capstick once will never do that again .That day I shot my 338-378,405 Winchester then my 416 rem mag many.times no problem.I shot that 470 chapstick once and never wanted to shoot anything bigger than my 416 rem mag again my recoil shooting limit.
I have a .470 Capstick based on a Ruger RSM MKII that Wayne did for me, and it kicks no harder than a .458 Lott. What was the one you shot based on?