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Have you completed your thesis yet.
Sir, YES I do have and I made it thru [Big Grin]

One degree ready and two minor test to go before next is clear [Big Grin] [Eek!] it will be in Blaserology [Eek!] [Big Grin]

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Congratulations on your Thesis. [Cool] [Smile]

However you may have to repeat Blaser 101. [Razz]
You have failed to grasp the concept. [Big Grin]
 
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one day you will also see the light in the loong dark blaser tunnel, you will that see that mauser style bolt actions and fine doubles matches better than that plastic toy. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

I have a grasp over the subject, but you seems to mix up good doubles with the worst bolt action trash that can be found [Big Grin] , do it again and correct this time... [Big Grin] [Razz] [Eek!]

The latest news is that blaser r 93 has declined their sale in Sweden and I have see some out for secondhand, Huh, the time for miracles are not over yet [Embarrassed] . I wonder what Saeed did when he was here [Roll Eyes]

/ JOHAN

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I have a grasp over the subject, but you seem to mix up good doubles with the worst bolt action trash that can be found [Big Grin]
Well... the hunter's equivalent of "to go slumming" :-).

Throughout the ages, gentlemen have time and again been found at times in seemingly very unsuitable company... but they enjoyed it. [Big Grin] In polite society, we acknowledge such as huMAN failure, and do not point fingers upon it.

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What?? You know how things go on here. I get harazzed by this blaser all the time. NE has some nice rifles and is a nice person, but somethings are not perfect and therefore he owns a blaser. Just trying to point him in the right direction [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

/ JOHAN

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Are you still comming to Texas?
 
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Yes, around middle of november. Now your'e teasing me again. I can't wait for BBQ, grits and some other goodies. Who know's, I might not move back [Wink] [Big Grin] [Eek!]


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JOHAN what part of Texas are you going to. How long will you be here?
 
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Dallas Ft.Worth. and some time in sticks hunting. Around 14-18 days or soo.
Were do you live??

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JOHAN You have e mail
 
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carcano91
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BFaucett posted the images of the first dummy cartridges which Blaser has pictured and advertised. The real loaded rounds do no look like this, and have a far smaller shoulder.

Regards,
Carcano
 
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I am actually kind of fond of the 577-450, though I do not shoot it or own anything so chambered, it just needs a shorter neck. The Blazer's rebated rim looks awful funny... I have not been able to pull up the "real" photo's.

I am surprised none of you jokesters have proclaimed the 540gr Hammerhead 45 Blazer as the next best thing in Africa. Ok, just kidding; I love my 45-70 and respect Garrett.

(edit) Ok, I am a little late, did not realize this was 2 pages long and that things have toned down some....

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In keeping with the thread resurrection trend Big Grin https://youtu.be/8NPJ6GMXM3E

So 13 years on, anyone actually played with one of these?


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I bought one of the first rifles that came to America in 2002 or 2003. I brought in the first brass that was available as well.

At one point I had 300 rounds of brass.

I ended up getting stationed overseas again, and couldn't take it with me so I sold it to Aleko Jensen in Salt Lake. I am not sure who got into it from there.

I have a VZ-24 sitting here, with no barrel on it. It is one of the calibers I have thought about doing.
 
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I bought one of the first rifles that came to America in 2002 or 2003. I brought in the first brass that was available as well.

At one point I had 300 rounds of brass.

I ended up getting stationed overseas again, and couldn't take it with me so I sold it to Aleko Jensen in Salt Lake. I am not sure who got into it from there.

I have a VZ-24 sitting here, with no barrel on it. It is one of the calibers I have thought about doing.


Thanks

Any recollections of loads / velocities?

I found a thread elsewhere suggesting .450 Marlin max loads make ideal starting points and have noted that whilst the factory load was a 350g bullet at 620m/s DEVA list a load with Norma 200 for 733m/s.

It certainly reads like a round that was never exploited to its full potential


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In keeping with the thread resurrection trend Big Grin https://youtu.be/8NPJ6GMXM3E

So 13 years on, anyone actually played with one of these?


A barrel came up for one pretty cheap but after doing some research on the exhorbitant price of abysmal quality brass I decided it wasn't nearly cheap enough.
 
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I'm not sure if that allegedly abysmal quality brass is the Australian Bertram relabelled and sent around the world a few times, or if the Horneber or Wolfgang Romey brass that goes for 60 Euro per 20 is indeed different to the brass for sale here at AUD $45 per 20 Confused


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Straight from the horses mouth, Bertram Brass is head stamped WR and exported to Germany to be loaded with 350g Woodleighs (presumably powder and primers are German)
Ther have been a few batches with subtle variations in head stamp and no so subtle differences in metallurgy...

Now has anyone tried the 325g Flex tip Hornady for a subtle range extension?


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They're single shot only in a Blaser R93, as I remember.
 
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They're single shot only in a Blaser R93, as I remember.


They cant be longer than the Woodleigh 400g PP surely - the mag fits 73mm OAL but factory ammo is 68mm


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I seem to remember it came with a solid insert to make it a single shot.
 
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You're thinking the 10,3x60R Swiss


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I have seen a hunter with R93 in 45 on a driven hunt in Germany last winter so I am pretty sure it was not a single shot.
 
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Definitely 3 in the mag Big Grin

Now I just need to see if I can shoehorn in enough H322 under a 350g TSX for Cape Buff - wont be hard to out perform a .45/70 stir


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Some Gunwriters in Norway tested the catridge some times back.
They found it to be fairly accurate, but with some penetration problems on big Pigs and Moose.
The Brass expands heavily, almost impossible to make more than 2-3 reloads.. Frowner

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The factory loaded 350g RNs by Woodleigh were designed for the .450BPE with a lot of lead exposed and a thin jacket for expansion at 2100 to 1800fps - I doubt penetration was ever there strong point.
The 400g PP, 350g TSX, and 400g Hydro should up the anti nicely.
I intend to give the 400g PP a go on sambar next month and will be intrigued to see how they perform in our largest deer, if they fail to break ribs on the offside I'll be looking elsewhere for a bullet for bovines


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Would love to see some pics of the cases with various loads.
 
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http://www.jww.de/r30/vc_conte...aden_jww_05_0505.pdf


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Would love to see some pics of the cases with various loads.


Here you go
http://forums.accuratereloadin...4711043/m/6351010522


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