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Originally posted by 500grains:
jeffie, do you research all of my posts? It seems like it. Now if you also took a reading comprehension course, you would know what my posts mean. Imagine that!


Awww, I have a fan.

So, dan, exactly how many 404 mausers have you personally built? None? Okay, how about how many 500 jeffe's? None? Okay..

How about - How many rifles have you personally built, any centerfire caliber RIFLE ?

None..

Okay, How many rifles have YOU personally sorted out the feeding on?

None ..


Dang, we aren't doing so well, just trying to find a common ground where we can share EXPEREINCE...

Wait.... since the thread is on the 404, how many 404's do you own, as I recall reading you post of PERSONALLY reloading the 416 rigby, but not the 404....


So, yeah, Dan, I am seeing a pattern here... You preach the 404, but you point out it's flaws... and you HAVE the 416 rigby, that you deselect in public...

Definately seeing a pattern going here.

You give advice on a caliber - yet have no experience building it

You give advice on a caliber - yet you don't own it

You give advice on proper twist -- yet don't own a rifle in that caliber with that over twist

You give advice on penetration - yet don't own the means to test

You write article for gun mags -- yet don't receive payment for them

You give advice on achieving 2350fps in a 458 lott with a 500 gr bullet, and state that the reloader must be defective in not acheiving that -- yet fail to come through with the data or the twist

Yes, Dan, you certainly are a bonified internet expert...

Keep up the good work, everyone loves a clown.

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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Posts: 40101 | Location: Conroe, TX | Registered: 01 June 2002Reply With Quote
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Is there any good reason NOT to build a 404 on a standard Mauser action provided provided proper heat treat and correct mag box?


Is the .425 Westley Richard's rebated rim considered a no no. The WR is shorter than the Jeffery.
 
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micdis,

if you have a 505 Gibbs the optimum choice here is the 404.
...........

Rich


Then, of course, a .303 for the plains game. Big Grin
 
Posts: 6277 | Location: Not Likely, but close. | Registered: 12 August 2002Reply With Quote
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I doubt I can add much clarity, but will throw my two cents in.

I built a 404 on a win, bought a CZ in 416 and restocked.

Once I finished the 404 it just didnt blow my dress up, it's a good round, but 416 has many more bullet avail.

CZ's can be done pretty cost effective if thats a concern, can be done quickly by many GS's and once surfaced ground, 3 pos safety and etc make a really nice rifle. CZ's are very easy to do which is worth a lot.

If I was going to use a Mag mauser of some sort I would go 416.

Here is what I would do, I would buy a CZ in 416 and have it slicked up and maybe restocked if time is not an issue.

Then I would build a 404 on an FN mauser go whole hog and be done with it. Smiler

Would pretty much covers it the way I see it. Smiler


Billy,

High in the shoulder

(we band of bubbas)
 
Posts: 1868 | Location: League City, Texas | Registered: 11 April 2003Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by micdis:
I'm thinking about building a nice, English style medium-heavy in the next year or so. I was planning on a 416 on a GMA action but am starting to have second thoughts. If I start with a military Mauser action, financially, I can have a 404 a good way towards completion by the time i write the check for the GMA action required for a rigby. I'v considered the cz action for the 416 but decided I'd like to go pure Mauser. As near as I can calculate I'd save about $2000 going with the 404. If anyone has input that might help bring some clarity to this dilema i'd appreciate it.



Well choices:




I through in the Van Horn for good measure.
 
Posts: 3785 | Location: B.C. Canada | Registered: 08 November 2005Reply With Quote
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Seriously, I am not bumping this to be a jerk. I would like to know the answers to these questions. It really seems to matter in advice on gunsmithing.. i would REALLY like to be wrong on my assumptions of "none"

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quote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
jeffie, do you research all of my posts? It seems like it. Now if you also took a reading comprehension course, you would know what my posts mean. Imagine that!


Awww, I have a fan.

So, dan, exactly how many 404 mausers have you personally built? None? Okay, how about how many 500 jeffe's? None? Okay..

How about - How many rifles have you personally built, any centerfire caliber RIFLE ?

None..

Okay, How many rifles have YOU personally sorted out the feeding on?

None ..


Dang, we aren't doing so well, just trying to find a common ground where we can share EXPEREINCE...

Wait.... since the thread is on the 404, how many 404's do you own, as I recall reading you post of PERSONALLY reloading the 416 rigby, but not the 404....


So, yeah, Dan, I am seeing a pattern here... You preach the 404, but you point out it's flaws... and you HAVE the 416 rigby, that you deselect in public...

Definately seeing a pattern going here.

You give advice on a caliber - yet have no experience building it

You give advice on a caliber - yet you don't own it

You give advice on proper twist -- yet don't own a rifle in that caliber with that over twist

You give advice on penetration - yet don't own the means to test

You write article for gun mags -- yet don't receive payment for them

You give advice on achieving 2350fps in a 458 lott with a 500 gr bullet, and state that the reloader must be defective in not acheiving that -- yet fail to come through with the data or the twist

Yes, Dan, you certainly are a bonified internet expert...

Keep up the good work, everyone loves a clown.

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
Posts: 40101 | Location: Conroe, TX | Registered: 01 June 2002Reply With Quote
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No reply, then, huh?

odd....


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
Posts: 40101 | Location: Conroe, TX | Registered: 01 June 2002Reply With Quote
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I have handled and shot Rusty's 404 and it is very nice.
I would prefer the 404 or the 400 H&H because it fits in a smaller action.

Also I am perfectly happpy with a 400gr at @2150fps, ie 450/400 ballistics.

I would have a 300 or 325 grain load for shooting lighter game at a distance.


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Posts: 16134 | Location: Texas | Registered: 06 April 2002Reply With Quote
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