400 Nitro Express (.395) vs 450/400 NE 3"

Pro's and cons...



I'll start...

400 NE...
Pro's, easier to get brass by using 9,3x74 brass.
cons, prolonged pinkey extensions lasting more than 4 hours you need to call a doctor

reply to self...
reboring a 9'3x74 would make an "inexpensive" DGR DR

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reply to self...
reboring a 9'3x74 would make an "inexpensive" DGR DR

Assuming of course that you can find someone to rebore both barrels, successfully, and that the resulting gun is still anywhere close to being regulated, aside from being out of proof. If not, its now a several thousand $ mistake. Even if it works, it's resale value is still several $k less than the cost. Why take the risk, either way you lose.

Bob

Now that Hornady is making brass there isn't a problem, There will be plenty! The 400 Jeffery, aka 450/400 3 inch, is not a punishing round.

I'am afraid the only reason for the so called 400 is to use all those bullets you are having made? Just a 9.3 on steriods. I mean B-12 and pain killers!

ok have twin sets of twin barrels.

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Originally posted by Rusty:
Now that Hornady is making brass there isn't a problem, There will be plenty! The 400 Jeffery, aka 450/400 3 inch, is not a punishing round.

I'am afraid the only reason for the so called 400 is to use all those bullets you are having made? Just a 9.3 on steriods. I mean B-12 and pain killers!

The 450/400 3" is great so do you see any positives of the 400 original and soon to be NE?

Boomy,
Since most big bore double rifles operate between 1950 and 2150 FPS, I don't see how you would be satisfied with those velocities.

Pushing a bullet faster is not what doubles are all about. Basic primise of a double rifle is, you get two large caliber bullet in a flanged case to ease extraction/ejection, at moderate velocities, delivered in tropical heat.

With the advent of the Ruger #1 in 450/400 3 inch you gain the stronger action and the ability to put that 400 grain bullet faster without worrying about regulation or damaging your double's action.

There never needs to be a good reason for new wildcats or new rounds. I just wonder what is gained by a round that so far has just one or two monolithic bullets to choose from? A round that needs to be pushed. I mean if you are building this round, you want it to go fast, right?

At double rifle velocities, I personally don't think you gain that much with monolithic bullets. Just my opine.

Rusty,
You are using common sense and logic. RIP and I are using whimsy and history just for the fish. Fish? Yeah, the HALIBUT.
I agree with your comments, though, if it weren't for the fun we're having.
Max

True I-gor Its not every day that a Nitro Express cart has a revival from the dead

When will the fancy double rifle companies catch on? (Purdey need not apply...they messed things up in the beginning by trying to proprietize the cart with a diff bore.)

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Originally posted by Rusty:
Boomy,
Since most big bore double rifles operate between 1950 and 2150 FPS, I don't see how you would be satisfied with those velocities.

Pushing a bullet faster is not what doubles are all about. Basic primise of a double rifle is, you get two large caliber bullet in a flanged case to ease extraction/ejection, at moderate velocities, delivered in tropical heat.

With the advent of the Ruger #1 in 450/400 3 inch you gain the stronger action and the ability to put that 400 grain bullet faster without worrying about regulation or damaging your double's action.

There never needs to be a good reason for new wildcats or new rounds. I just wonder what is gained by a round that so far has just one or two monolithic bullets to choose from? A round that needs to be pushed. I mean if you are building this round, you want it to go fast, right?

At double rifle velocities, I personally don't think you gain that much with monolithic bullets. Just my opine.

One word of CAUTIONhere in regard the bold paragraph above!

If you have a Ruger No1, and a double rifle both chambered for the 450/400 jeffery, then you either need to load the ammo for the double rifle, and adjust the sights on your No1 for it, or make damn sure the hot loaded ammo for the No1, doesn't get in your double rifle, or in anyone else's!

If you have only the Ruger No1, then guard you ammo, and/or put big read lables on the box labeled "NOT FOR DOUBLE RIFLE USE"! I predict this is going to be a problem down the road at some point in time, with a fine old 450/400NE Jeffery double rifle ruined!

Boomy, let me know when those Double rifle companies come to their senses!

Thank goodness the 450/400 3 inch was never a black powder loading as it's cousin the 450/400 3 1/4 was originally was loaded.