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Boom Stick,
You have earned your salary from HA!/DOA: The check is in the mail.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Rip,
theres no real descernable difference is recoil from a 510 600 at 2500 vs a 550 700 at 2300...

wasn't sure this as about "mere mortals" anyway



and actually the 505 gibbs case, with just a .550 expander in it, has FAR more than neck than a 470 mbogo...

finish the job, sirrah.. finish the job

jeffe

Jeffe,
If you insist:

I just like the .510 because I can get bullets for it from 570 grain to 800 grain, lots of cheap milsurp for the 50BMG mixed in there too, and some top target bullets in 705 grain and 750 grain, etc. Those pulled AP black tips are very accurate at mere pennies per shot.

500 A-Square/.510 Wells, that's the ticket. Recoil is not the issue, you are correct in that.

As for the shoulder issue above, you are dead wrong. Have you ever necked up a .505 Gibbs to .550? I haven't and I never will.

At the shoulder diameter, the .505 Gibbs is 0.600" since the body tapers down from 0.640" for nice feeding and extraction.

At the base of the neck the .505 Gibbs is 0.538" diameter.

Step at the shoulder = (0.600 - 0.538)/2 = 0.031"

Add another .040" to the bullet diameter and the shoulder step for a .550 Gibbs would be 0.011"

No way.

If you blew part of the body taper out it will still be too puny a shoulder for a .550 Gibbs, and would defeat the beauty of maintaining the same .505 Gibbs taper and headspacing.

Actually the .470 Mbogo has .035" step per side at the shoulder, so it is a little better than the .505 Gibbs shoulder.

So Jeffe, you are wrong. Your turn.

i second jeffeosso on the 550...there are going to be more manufacturers for the 550 solids per r.n.s. barnes being one

quote from r.n.s.

Barnes has a solid bullet designed and I should be working on finishing the details with them and test firing some shortly. Once that is done there will be 3 companies producing soilds.

RNS


so people will say to themselves..."self?"...""i need( ) to shoot me some 550 bullets to show of to them band of bubbas" and this will give them more selection and people love the 505 case. as far as marketing goes 375 to 550 sounds serious (not that you are not) but will raise a few eyebrows...let jeffeosso work on the soads and no skin off your nose (or shoulder) but hey...your the boss and i am the employee call it the 550 p.h. put it on a m.r.c. p.h. action

just read your last post...we were typing at the same time...if it wont work, it wont work but hire jeffeosso to design the cart for you and see if he can tweak it enough...no skin off your nose

bs,
Have you been hitting the tembo lately?

Read the numbers I posted. Those are the facts. The .550 Gibbs is getting back into .400 Brown-Whelen tricks.

No way!

The .510/.505 Gibbs just barely makes it on shoulder for me.
That is the Max on the .505 Gibbs case. Why do you think Mr. Gibbs stopped at .505 with that case?

Latest marketing hype:

The .510 Tembo: the juice of the elephant that you stomped. A toast to Tembo with some tembo (palm wine).

o.k.boss...

i do like the way "510 tembo" rolls off the tongue

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Originally posted by boom stick:
just read your last post...we were typing at the same time...if it wont work, it wont work but hire jeffeosso to design the cart for you and see if he can tweak it enough...no skin off your nose

I see you are coming back into reality.
If we ever have any needs at HA!/DOA for Jeffe to consult on design, we'll get in touch, just like your check is in the mail.

my carrot on a stick is not a check but two of your rip rifles and 5 switch barrels

RIP,
decide on the names, and let me know where i can send you a donation to help with your reamers, once you have the order lined up, and which one's you be doing first..

would like to see you have one going

jeffe

me too...

set up a paypal acct and i will contribute to get the ball rolling

HA!/DOA: Surfs up! Hanging Ten with the Big Five and Standard Five. Sorry, but HA!/DOA is not a charity and we cannot accept donations, but thanks anyway.

Big Five based on Rigby/Lapua and Gibbs:

.375 Chui
.423 Simba
.458 Nyati
.475 Kifaru
.510 Tembo

Standard Five based on Rigby/Lapua and Gibbs:

.308 Lapua
.338 Lapua
.416 Rigby
.408 CheyTac
.505 Gibbs

Ron,
didn't infer you were a charity... dono't get your feathers in a rufffle.. want to see you finish these

jeffe

Jeffe,
It was supposed to be in jest. I am lightened up. Arrogant Al is on the wildcat warpath again. I am running for cover.

Which base I can use to form the following CASING ?
Is if you have measurements?

[LIST]427 Lapua Kilafu Long Horn
458 Lapua Tempo Long Tusk
308 Chui
338 Simba
423 Kifaru
505 Gibbs Bibi
308 Lapua Chui
338 Lapua Simba
375 Lapua Nyati
423 Lapua Kifaru
458 Lapua Tempo
375 Lapua Chui
423 Lapua Simba
458 Lapua Nyati
475 Gibbs Kifaru
510 Gibbs Tempo
458 Jumbo
458 Dumbo
510 Ndovu
475 Kifaru

Tera,
please send RIP a PM, and stop repeating the exact same posts

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Tera,
please send RIP a PM, and stop repeating the exact same posts

THANK YOU FOR MT COMPREONSION Jeffeosso But that I do seek these wildcat is the base how one them forms I do not see the evil has its? Because not to drive out you not with standard gauges

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Originally posted by RIP:
500grains,
Very sharp! That is a Mexican hairless Chihuahua deer, a subspecies of Coues deer with very big racks to serve as heat radiators when they are in the velvet in those hot Chihuahua summers. If you look closely through the bison hair, you can see the right horn of this little bison bull is sticking into the jugular of that taxidermy form for the Chihuahua deer.

I would love to come visit you and have a SMOKE with ya!!!

I have seen the infamous Chihuahua deer here in Tennessee, believe it or not, but it was more the size of a jackalope of the west. Never have I seen one with such a huge rack and body mass!!!!!

Interesting, there was a local sighting of the also infamous "Skunkman" and I have yet to see him personally. If I do, I sure hope I am toting one of my Rigbys because anything else will have me undergunned and running in the opposite direction!!! Skunkman, for you laymen is a crossbred of Big Foot, but it is only found in the Appalachian Mountain chain. It tends to be more limber and quicker afoot than the Rocky Mountain variety, because of it's close contact with humans and Bluegrass music. To date, nobody has harvested one, and I hope to be the first!!!

Tera, thing is, most of the info you ask for is right there. If you read this whole thread RIP has said which rounds are on which case. They are all off the Rigby/Lapuamag or Gibbs case. You have about 50 posts, and at least half of them are asking what case a round is from. If you aren't willing to spend $20 on a book of wildcat cartridges, how are you ever going to afford a wildcat rifle?
Don't misunderstand, this is a very helpful bunch, and if a fellow asks for info on a case, he'll likely get it quick, but when all you're doing is asking for every dimension of a long list of rounds, it gets tiresome! Do some internet searching if nothing else!
;-)