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22 October 2005, 16:11
MartinPotts
416, 458, 470, and 500 AR - the line of AR rounds - dialup warning
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Still making the 470... will have the 3 reamers as a set.. 416 reamer, 458 and 470 neck and throat reamers

if i can find my 416 AB barrel, i'll cut a 458 and 416 about a week after we get the reamer.. then about 3 weeks after than, the .475 barrel will get here!!


jeffe


Sounds good ... Its about time i hit the sack folks ..its 4:17 in the AM ..Night nite ..

Martin
25 October 2005, 15:48
jeffeosso
4 pages and going.. and no pissin matches !!

i am impressed

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
25 October 2005, 17:44
Gringo Cazador
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
4 pages and going.. and no pissin matches !!

i am impressed

jeffe


Oh yeah..........Jeffe is really 4'4" and his favorite rifle is the all time favorite the 270 winchester. sofa


Billy,

High in the shoulder

(we band of bubbas)
25 October 2005, 18:25
jeffeosso
Billy,
i have to have a muzzlebrake on that 270.. and can only load 100s at 2200fps!!!


and the pics of me shooting the 550 actualy IS a chipmonk
jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
25 October 2005, 20:56
Hog Killer
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
4 pages and going.. and no pissin matches !!

i am impressed

jeffe


I think that this MAYBE AN A.R. FIRST. This long of a thread, and still on topic and no pissing beer

Hog Killer


IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!!
------------------------------------
We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club
25 October 2005, 21:00
Paul H
You guys just have to tempt fate doncha Confused

An even greater tempt of fate is mentioning a lever gun as a potential platform Wink


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The AR series of rounds, ridding the world of 7mm rem mags, one gun at a time.
25 October 2005, 21:46
boom stick
i already did that three times and no flames... Big Grin Eeker

granted 500 grains WAS on safari... roflmao


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*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
25 October 2005, 21:49
boom stick


just immagine a fatter tube Big Grin


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
25 October 2005, 23:47
Gringo Cazador
quote:
Originally posted by boom stick:


just immagine a fatter tube Big Grin


Hey Boom..........one thing about it, as heavy as the triggers are on BLR's you wouldn't have to worry about it accidently going off Smiler


Billy,

High in the shoulder

(we band of bubbas)
26 October 2005, 00:49
Paul H
All I can say is, your fingers in the lever will get violated during recoil Eeker


__________________________________________________
The AR series of rounds, ridding the world of 7mm rem mags, one gun at a time.
26 October 2005, 01:06
MartinPotts
quote:
Originally posted by Paul H:
All I can say is, your fingers in the lever will get violated during recoil Eeker


As it is the BLR in 50-110 doesnt "snip" "pinch"
"crunch" "bang" "clip" or hurt my hand or my pinkys during or after recoil and it kicks alot more then my ruger m 77 458 win mag with hot loads in it .

"Most"of the folks here know Wink just like i did when i had that rifle made up that a BLR is not a true lever action it just looks like it
More like a "lever operated bolt action rifle"
But a lever none the less.

Now back to the 470 AR Razzer
26 October 2005, 01:40
invader66
quote:
Originally posted by Hog Killer:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
4 pages and going.. and no pissin matches !!

i am impressed

jeffe


I think that this MAYBE AN A.R. FIRST. This long of a thread, and still on topic and no pissing beer

Hog Killer


Wait till someone wants a 45-70 AR and it will hit the fan then Big Grin


Semper Fi
WE BAND OF BUBBAS
STC Hunting Club
12 October 2006, 07:47
jeffeosso
Just wanted to wish the A.R. rounds a

Happy Birthday.
BOOM cheers

One year ago, on 10/12/05, we started this ball rolling.

Today there are
7 up and running, 4 more in the works, and an order of reloading dies at CH4D.


The 416 can easily beat 2400 with 400gr
The 458 can easily beat 2300 with 500gr
The 470 can easily beat 2300 with 500gr


(oh, Gene, there is a "45/70 AR".. in the 45/70 Nitro)

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
12 October 2006, 08:15
JMJ888
quote:
Just wanted to wish the A.R. rounds a

Happy Birthday.


One year ago, on 10/12/05, we started this ball rolling.


So when is the 500 AR due? I am bringing the cigars (ammo) for that birthday celebration.
12 October 2006, 16:22
tiggertate
I just received my 458 AR dies last night. This weekend I'm gonna be a case-forming SOB.

That was 25 gr Bullseye, wasn't it Jeffe?


"Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson.
12 October 2006, 16:29
.366torque
quote:
Originally posted by tiggertate:
I just received my 458 AR dies last night. This weekend I'm gonna be a case-forming SOB.

That was 25 gr Bullseye, wasn't it Jeffe?


Don't forget the tequila for afterwards! cheers
12 October 2006, 18:22
jeffeosso
Harry,
18!!
jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
12 October 2006, 18:44
Hog Killer
They grow up so fast. lol

Happy birthday to the triplets cheers

Hog Killer


IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!!
------------------------------------
We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club
12 October 2006, 18:51
Mississippian
quote:
i have to have a muzzlebrake on that 270


I can top that! I have a Ruger No.1 that weighs 14.75#(with scope) chambered in .257 ACK, With a muzzle brake. I think it actually has negative recoil! haha

While I have your attention, Does anyone need a Stainless/syn M70 7mm Rem Mag? I just happened to have one taking up valuable space!


Double Rifle Shooters Society
12 October 2006, 18:59
Hog Killer
quote:
Originally posted by Mississippian:
While I have your attention, Does anyone need a Stainless/syn M70 7mm Rem Mag? I just happened to have one taking up valuable space!



Just list it in the classifieds as a donar for the AR series.

Hog Killer


IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!!
------------------------------------
We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club
12 October 2006, 19:32
Mississippian
quote:
Just list it in the classifieds as a donar for the AR series.

Hog Killer



I will soon. Just thought I would offer it here first. Thanks for your imput though! thumb


Double Rifle Shooters Society
12 October 2006, 19:33
JMJ888
quote:
Originally posted by Mississippian:
While I have your attention, Does anyone need a Stainless/syn M70 7mm Rem Mag? I just happened to have one taking up valuable space!



Just list it in the classifieds as a donar for the AR series.

Hog Killer


The AR line of rounds...taking 7 Mags down one at a time. I was impressed when Jeffe dropped an AR round in my factory M70 LH CRF in 7 Mag and it was picking it up out of the mag and trying to feed it.

Just counting the days now until its done.
12 October 2006, 19:48
packrattusnongratus
Does PacNor take Discover card? Wink Packy
12 October 2006, 20:32
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by Mississippian:
While I have your attention, Does anyone need a Stainless/syn M70 7mm Rem Mag? I just happened to have one taking up valuable space!


Kelley,
man, i am sorry to hear that.. you can store it in my gunsafe!!
and I'll even pay shippign !!

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
12 October 2006, 20:43
Mississippian
quote:
Kelley,
man, i am sorry to hear that.. you can store it in my gunsafe!!
and I'll even pay shippign !!

jeffe

That may work in my favor! I am certain it would not stay there long without the temptation to convert it to one of the AR chamberings. Then I could demand my rifle back! rotflmoWhats your address? rotflmo

Kelly


Double Rifle Shooters Society
12 October 2006, 21:29
boom stick
happy birthday to the best rounds to come out in decades!

yer a proud papa fer shure cheers

i got 200 saved up for the donor rifle Big Grin


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
12 October 2006, 21:35
jeffeosso
Boomy,
Kelley has a rifle for sale.....

sofa


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
12 October 2006, 21:38
boom stick
i had the barrel threaded for a ruger...


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
12 October 2006, 21:40
jeffeosso
which is the same as a model 70


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
12 October 2006, 21:46
boom stick
is it stainless???


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
12 October 2006, 21:54
mstarling
Congratulations Jeffe!

Absolutely nifty cartridge designs.

My Parker-Hale action is in, as is the trigger and stock. The bottom metal has been ordered (sure hope it will or can be made to work). Will call about the .458 AR dies this afternoon.

Have located a buddy with a Patker-Hale .458 and were going to look at its barrel contour and recoil lugs for good ideas. Thought I'd try to make the barrel band, front sight band, and quarter rib.

We'll see when the barrel can get into the work queue.

Again Jeffe, thanks for the great work!


Mike

--------------
DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ...
Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com
12 October 2006, 22:02
jeffeosso
Boomy,
yep...
Mike,
forgot yours.. make that an even dozen in the works.


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
12 October 2006, 22:18
boom stick
kelly...post pics...

i have my heart set on a ruger but if the price is right i can be tempted to stray Wink

for those that dont know...that icon i have is the view down the 470 barrel waiting to be "deflowered"


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
15 October 2006, 22:16
tiggertate
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Harry,
18!!
jeffe


So 25 ought to give me really sharp shoulders, right? rotflmo


"Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson.
15 October 2006, 23:21
Idaho Sharpshooter
yer crawfishin Boomy, just get the checkbook out...

Rich
cheers
16 October 2006, 01:10
boom stick
rich...the check would bounce...

until i refinance the house i am on a stretch budget Frowner

i am of average means and a first time home buyer and live in california where homes cost as much as small countries...

i could move to one of the square states and have a full gun safe Wink

i have had to cut out a lot of my a.t.f. vices (alcohol tobacco and firearms) Frowner


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
16 October 2006, 01:14
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by tiggertate:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Harry,
18!!
jeffe


So 25 ought to give me really sharp shoulders, right? rotflmo


Yeah.. a little too sharp.. but will make it SNOW

---
Boomy,
email mississipian! btw, texas is more or less boot shaped, not square
jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
16 October 2006, 01:44
JMJ888
Whew Jeffe! I spent all of 15 minutes forming the shoulders on 100 458 AR's (including one pee break)...I am pooped...(major sarcasm!!).

After fire forming I am going to attempt to wear the cutter out on the RCBS power trimmer. I thought shooting a wildcat was supposed to be a pain in the butt? bull
16 October 2006, 05:38
Frank Martinez
I haven't had too much time to check in lately but I did get a chance to go out and shoot my .416 AR.
I have the rifle and .470 barrel waitin on the go ahead from Jeffe.
I have been forming and fireforming for a few times now and even with the multi-part setup--I haven't gotten the real dies from Dave yet- it isn't hard at all.
Once I get the .470 going (maybe before) I am going to sell off the .375 RUM and a few other rifles in close calibers.
The Ruger 77 works perfectly for this round with no hangups or mis-feeds. I actually had more trouble when making the .358 Norma mag fit the model 77.
You have a major winner Jeffe. Do you think the .458AR will work through a Mark X? Seems like it should clean up the .458 WM very easily.
Frank
16 October 2006, 05:44
JMJ888
quote:
Once I get the .470 going (maybe before) I am going to sell off the .375 RUM and a few other rifles in close calibers.


Hey Frank, think about this...375 Ultra for plains game and the 458 AR for the dangerous stuff. That way you have a barrel stamped 375 RUM and all your ammo matches should you travel abroad.