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I always have had an aversion to savage rifles until recently.

They now have a 20" barrel 375 h-h stainless with open sights called the Alaska guide model.

I have handled a couple of them and have actually had the thought of taking one home.

Seems like a nice little set up.

Anyone seen these? Any thoughts?


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Posts: 9823 | Location: Montana | Registered: 25 June 2001Reply With Quote
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Is this a brand-new model? I just checked their web page, and I couldn't find it listed there.


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the best part is the Accu-Trigger, 1.5-4.0lbs adjustble.
I got a buck (American) that they will shoot under 1" at 1000yds for 3-shot groups if you can shoot one. Over the past ten yeras Savage has turned the corner and in my opinion will be the most accurate out of the box rifle for under $1200 in any offered caliber. I built my 22-378AI on a 112 SS.

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I always have had an aversion to savage rifles until recently.

They now have a 20" barrel 375 h-h stainless with open sights called the Alaska guide model.

I have handled a couple of them and have actually had the thought of taking one home.

Seems like a nice little set up.

Anyone seen these? Any thoughts?


If I was to buy a target/varmint rifle I'd buy a Savage in a heartbeat.....but I need a lot more confidence in their reliability to own a Savage for any type of hunting rifle.......especially a DG rifle.

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$600 for a $300 gun isn't my idea of a bargain.

I'd take a Ruger allweather 338 win mag over the savage any day, and likely have $100 change in my pocket and a better rifle.

I know, rugers don't shoot, well my new 350 rem mag Ruger with it's first handload shot a 5/8" group, and that with the still horendously heavy trigger.


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Hello Idaho Sharpshooter,
I shoot 1000 yard matches, prone w/ sling, micrometer sights, cal. 308/300 Win Mag., quite a bit and have for several years now, and a 1" group of 3 at that distance from any mfg. of rifles is a bit on the optomistic side I believe. You would be looking at .1 moa group if it were one inch and I am not sure any caliber/rifle has accomplished that feat yet. If I am wrong, so be it, but would need to see evidence of such performance of any caliber/rifle combo.

As for out of the box accuracy, it is real hard to beat the Remington 700 PSS rifle and even the 700 Varmint in either 223, 308 or 300 Win Mag. Over many years and many matches of all distances the Remington's far outnumber all others by several times.
 
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This rifle does not have an accutrigger.

I am curios as to what makes this a $600 savage also. The bolt is set up as a CRF. So I bet that is why the price is higher too.

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$600 for a $300 gun.
Don't hold your feelings in Paul. Big Grin

I do like Rugers but I think the 338 is a bit heavy and I was looking for something with open sights.


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Idaho Sharpshooter: I got a buck (American) that they will shoot under 1" at 1000yds for 3-shot groups if you can shoot one.


Every Savage I have shot will shoot 1 moa or less, and I would suspect that ISS stuttered on the 0 key and meant 100 yards. Confused

They are great rifles out of the box, but the ones without accutrigger will probably need a trigger job.

I have a 10FP (w/accutrigger) in 223 that is a great coyote hunting rifle and will shoot 5/8" 5 shot groups @ 100 yds w/Win. White Box. Handloads will put 5 shots all touching, same range.

My 111 in 338 Win Mag (w/o AT) shoots 3/4" 5 shot groups @ 100 w/210 gr. NP's and relegated my Mod. 70 300 Win Mag to the safe and I have shot Winchesters since Hector was pup.

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RMiller: They now have a 20" barrel 375 h-h stainless with open sights called the Alaska guide model.

Anyone seen these? Any thoughts?


I have a 116 Safari Express which is basically the rifle you inquired about. It has the 3 leaf rear sight but has a factory installed muzzle break which makes the barrel 24". It is the CRF action. I am still working on loads for this rifle so can't claim it to be a true moa rifle yet, but have shot several 1" groups w/300 gr. RN and can count on 1.25" 5 shot groups @ 100 for sure. Feel sure w/a bit more load tuning it will settle in.

Yep, they are not exactly a work of art to look at, but, beauty is as beauty does and I'll take performance over looks any day.

The only feature I found fault with as a hunting rifle is the (three position) safety is in the wrong place; should be on the back end of the bolt. Wink I have become accustomed to it through lots of field use, however.

If you decide to take one home, doubt that you will be disapointed.

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Is this a brand-new model? I just checked their web page, and I couldn't find it listed there.


I couldn't find it either.
How 'bout a link?


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Rygers may look better, but will never -ever- compete with Savage accuracy or their Accutrigger.


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Posts: 3865 | Location: Cheyenne, WYOMING, USA | Registered: 13 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I don't have a link to a pic of the rifle. But here is a link to another discussion about the rifle.

http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php?t=174


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The alaskan site is all about comparing apples and watermelons and (sour)grapes as far as the Savage 375.
The only unbiased post is comparing the Savage to a Remington XCR in 375. The guys rattling about their Ruggers being better rifles are talking about their 338's or other such small bores.
What the Savage does have
1. 20" barrel
2. Express 3-leaf sights
3. A muzzle brake (that can be removed)
4. All stainelss construction
5. Synthetic stock
6. Oh yeah, it's a 375
7. Oh yeah, it's half the price of a Ruger

No record of the claw extractor ever breaking.

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dont forget all the awesome wildcatting you can do and all the other rounds that you could potentialy rechamber this to. can you say... 375 rum! mgun hammering Big Grin

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I noticed on the link, one of the guys mentioned it would make a good boat gun, probably would. I used a Savage Kodiak on a rubber raft bear hunt in Alaska..........all I can say is if ever want to test functionablity of a firearm.....rent a Zodiac, 10 hp motor, have a float plane drop you off in Comfort cove or somehwere south of Valdez for a couple of weeks.

And I heard guys say they would spit on a gun before they would use WD40.........yeah right.

I got to see my first brite orange colored gun.

All I got to say is that country can be real had on guns and equipment......it was hard on me too.


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Tell me where I can find one for $250-300 savage 375, and I'll buy one. Streat price on the Ruger all weather 338's is $500-600, and this savage is supposed to be going for $600, so I don't see where that is 1/2 the price of a Ruger Confused

I know it's popular to bash Rugers as being inacurate, but I haven't seen any of the newer ones that wouldn't shoot between 1 to 1 1/2" for 3 shots at 100 yds. So maybe the savage shots 3/4" groups or 1/2" groups, we're talking 338 and 375 as backup guns pissers


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I'm waiting for delivery of mine. It is not an acutrigger (sp) model, 20 in. stainless barrel and action, synthetic stock, push feed, quoted by the gunshop I contacted as 6.5 lbs. I'd take this with a grain of salt considering Ultralight Arms asks $3k or there abouts for a 5.5 to 7.5 lb rifle. I plan on putting a Burris Fullfield II 1.75-5x20 on top with Warne rings. The whole Ballistic Plex idea has my attention and cheaper than an aftermarket reticle change. Call Boondocks Sporting Goods, Eagle River, AK 99577 if you want one while they last. Phone (907) 694-2229, Fax (907) 694-3006
 
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here is a whole collection of them, somebody was a savage lover.......but looks like they have applied for divorce.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976697380.htm


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The rifle I am talking about is stainless 6.5 pounds has a 20" barrel, one rear sight and no muzzlebreak @ $595 .


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rmiller, i picked up one of these just because it was relatively cheap compared to all the other stainless 375s. And boy is it light, first shot had the front sling swivel get my hand, and another fella at the range tried it and it took a piece of skin of his trgger hand. All in all it was pretty neat. I also bought this for a boat gun that i wont be afraid to scratch up. My plan is to load some barnes 210gr and use it as my deer getter. well see
 
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anyone got the cahones to make a 470 capstick out of this light gun??? mgun


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Grizzinator,
Sounds like a good use for that rifle. A handy boat gun that is.

I had a remmy ss syn in 375ultra that liked to skin my trigger finger too.


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Paul H,

R-E-A-D the post slowly and carefully...then let me know where I can buy those Ruggers in 375H&H for $595.
Like I said, apples and watermelons. People that are badmouthing the Savage are comparing it pricewise to Ruggers in peashooter calibers. Price me a Rugger 375 as penance and say dependable ten times real fast. Next say 375 RUM reamer as your fantasy for the week! Boatgun deluxe, for sure.

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It would have to be a hell of a lot more reliable then the other 8 or so savage rifles I have. Great varmint guns but I have have feeding and extraction troubles with them all.
 
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My brother just bought a Stainless Savage. It's a 300 wsm, with a detachable clip and the Accu Trigger. It also has a CRPF (control round push feed) bolt. I thought Savage stopped making them in '04 and that they were only on the Safari Express rifles.
 
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This rifle is a special run from Davidsons. IIRC.


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I was looking for a rifle to hunt with when the weather was really lousy. It had to be Left Handed, 338 win mag. I bought a Savage Weather Warrior. I wasn't really impressed when I received it. I replaced the recoil pad, added a Leupold 2x7 scope and it is an awesome gun.
Handles well, shoots exceptionally well and for around $450.00 it was a great buy.
I really like it now and for the money I like it a lot more.


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A little follow up with my new Savage 116 FSS. It weights 6 lbs 7 oz. Fired PMC factory ammo in it, at 84 F and 60% humidity is does 2334 fps, just 28 fps less than my CZ 550 with 25 inch barrel! One handload tried, 70.0 grains RL-15 with Sierra 300 grain GameKing soft point. 2589 fps vs 2625 fps. The load was a little hot at 92 F and 43% humidity. I plan on reloading at 2500 fps for the Savage and about 2550 fps for the CZ with some Barnes 300 grain TSX bullets. I'll have to wait for a new seating stem as the X bullets are sticking in the stem of my RCBS die.
 
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It looks like a good beat up rough and tumble kinda gun.I saw a few around shops here in Alaska.Ruger needs to bring out a rough and tumble 375 h&h and 416 rem mag stainless gun for under $1000 ,hopefully $800 it would sell like crazy.The Savage 375 is very cheap looking I wonder if the stock will hold up or not.That is the problem cheap plastic stocks wont hold up on 375 or larger calibers alot of times.It is a niche that needed to be filled.I have 2 Remington Big Game Rifles in 416 Rem mag with 22" barrels that I love hunting with in Alaska.
 
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I haven't seen any of the newer ones that wouldn't shoot between 1 to 1 1/2" for 3 shots at 100 yds.


Not trying to rain on your parade but that group doesn't sound impressive to me. What am I missing?
 
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