I have always wanted to build a 600 OK in a full-stock Mannlicher style, so with the help of a client who is willing to step out and take a chance or two, we went ahead and did it. I was concerned that it would be difficult to make it look slim like a Mannlicher should, what with the large diameter barrel and all. But within the proportions of the size of the action it looks and feels better than I could have imagined.

It has a GMA action, 20" barrel set up for a removable brake, custom steel forend tip, a nice little Schnabel feature halfway up the forend, and will be stocked in dark English Walnut. The stock in the pictures is a pattern that we just finished.

The rifle will be ready for SCI and will be on display at the Granite Mountain Arms booth if you want to see it.

Now that's cool!!

And now for something completely different. (In my best John Cleese voice)

That's a really fantastic. Looking rifle, Wayne! I'm really liking the fore end cap/banded sight. I wonder how that'd look as a one piece deal? Would that effect the accuracy having the barrel tied into the stock tip?

That's really interesting!!

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That's a really fantastic. Looking rifle, Wayne! I'm really liking the fore end cap/banded sight. I wonder how that'd look as a one piece deal? Would that effect the accuracy having the barrel tied into the stock tip?

Brandon, I was really nervous about how it would all come together until yesterday when the pattern stock was finished and most everything assembled. It just feels right in your hands and doesn't feel big like a 600 OK.

That forend cap was hair-raising enough to build on its own without combining a banded sight. I made it on my lathe and Bridgeport mill by the seat of my pants. It is an oval shape in cross-section with a cut-out inside for the stock tip to slide up under. The next one I build will have a little different sight set-up.

Accuracy should be fine. That stock won't put enough pressure on that big barrel to make any difference. It's a 50 yd rifle anyway, so who cares? I had a Ruger #1 FS in 7x57 that shot 1/2" groups, so I think the story about full-stock rifles not shooting well is a myth. They shoot just as good as anything else.

Bitterroot,

Now that would be my dream 600OK (how about 700AHR ?). Please keep the pictures coming.

todd

Very nice indeed. As long as you stay away from the coffin drop box and the color-case hardening finish. It would be a nice rifle to have.

Pyzda

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Originally posted by Pyzda:
Very nice indeed. As long as you stay away from the coffin drop box and the color-case hardening finish. It would be nice rifle to have.

Pyzda

I don't know about that! I really liked the CCH. Makes the rifle stand out and adds character.

Wayne- very cool and great job! I like it!-Rob

Todd

Freedom is everything, we are all different, liking different things.

I can assure you that you wouldn't like the look of my rifles, but I can assure you that you would change your mind after you would use any of them.

And they aren't doubles.

They aren't for the look, but they are solely for the performance.


The stock to me it can be a plane hardwood birch as long as it is strong.

It can be as rough as it comes from the pantograph. (in my own case I do all my own stocks with a small angle grinder and a 4" carving wheel)

I have no checkering as I use my own (not a pretty) ABSOLUTELY NON SLIP FINISH regardless of what conditions, sweat, wet, dry or an oil it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.

I like my rifles to be stock heavy, the simple rationale is;

One can handle much more weight as long as it it close to the axis of the body. ( my own experience sports background).

My toolmaking background tells me; the more colors, the more surfaces the more problems.

All my rifles use open angles (>90) on everything there is so they can't catch on anything, except the bolt handle.

Pyzda

Wayne, that's sweet. I really love my lil CZ550FS that i rechambered to 9.3x64 but THAT is in a different league!

Wayne, would love to see a picture looking at the muzzle end if you get a chance (to get an idea of the thickness at the muzzle). Looks like a pretty slick handling rifle. What are you shooting for it to end up at, weight wise?

You're a bad man ---what do you mean 50 yards? You'd be amazed how accurate these are out at 200 from a bench. I use the top of the heavy duplex as the hold point at 200. Damn close for drop & accuate enought to take the chest out of a deer last year

Brandon,

When we get done stocking it I will post some more photos. We are looking for about 11 to 12 lbs weight. It really feels good in the hands and is quick and nimble for that weight. I'm already planning another one, maybe on a CZ.

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I made it on my lathe and Bridgeport mill by the seat of my pants.

Those are quite some pants sir! Excellent! The full stock actually makes it seem smaller visually, not larger and I like how it's easy to imagine just tossing it over your shoulder like a Mannlicher... Different in real life I know, but must say this is something different and neat!

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a full-stock Mannlicher style

Can you make these in mortal man size calibers?

What size blank do you need?

Thanks

Yes, we do build these in calibers for mere mortals. We only do them in a couple of action types though.

A blank with 42" of good wood is required for a 20" barrel and up to 15" LOP. We can provide the blank.

Would love to have one of those built on my SS PH action.

Sigh ...

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:
Would love to have one of those built on my SS PH action.

Sigh ...

Wayne...see, there is more than one of us PH owners out there.

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couple of action types though

Which ones? How wide and tall does the blank need to be? (I have couple blanks I might wanna use)

Carbonic acid,

We are currently stocking the Mannlichers in the GMA African Magnum and the CZ Magnum with our upgrades and Duane Wiebe's bottom metal. I know we will be making patterns for other actions in the future. The full-stocked rifle is such a classic and is poised to make a comeback, I believe.
The blank should be at least 2-3/8" wide X 7" tall at the butt so we can have some room for proper layout.

Paul and Bob,

I don't know what to tell ya. The action is really too big for something like this. Also the bottom metal is paralell to the bore which would give it some pretty clunky lines. The Mannlicher really needs to be built on some variant of the Mauser to look right.

Two piece forend?

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Originally posted by Bitterroot:
Carbonic acid,

We are currently stocking the Mannlichers in the GMA African Magnum and the CZ Magnum with our upgrades and Duane Wiebe's bottom metal. I know we will be making patterns for other actions in the future. The full-stocked rifle is such a classic and is poised to make a comeback, I believe.
The blank should be at least 2-3/8" wide X 7" tall at the butt so we can have some room for proper layout.

Mr. Root,

Agreed on the comeback. Will gather some parts. Any caliber restrictions regarding reamer, mag box, follower?

Regards,

Club Soda

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Originally posted by Bitterroot:
Paul and Bob,

I don't know what to tell ya. The action is really too big for something like this. Also the bottom metal is paralell to the bore which would give it some pretty clunky lines. The Mannlicher really needs to be built on some variant of the Mauser to look right.

I defer to your skills, knowledge and experience.

But I will need a 600 OK built on this action some day in the future!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to All

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Two piece forend?

I believe Wayne posted that the stock in the pictures is a pattern.

H2CO3,

Email me at wayne@hunting-rifles.com

Wayne

That is a very nice looking concept and very well executed.
The only distraction to my eye is the use of a full band sight with the fore arm cap. I think it would look better with a streamlined ramp just on top of the barrel. That would also give you more wood under the cap.
Just my opinion as I see it in your photos.

James

Apart from the sheer elegance and fluid lines that they have been associated with and almost always had, full-stocked rifles have never really looked more lethal any business-like than this! They are my weakness in pretty much any configuration, Mannlicher-Schonauer, Mauser, Winchester, hell even a Weatherby would look good with wood all the way up front! Great work, Wayne! One of these days I'm gonna pester you to build me a nice banded front ramp like this!

Best,

Zubin

J Bennet,

In this case function trumps form. I agree with you on the front sight, and on the next 600 I will probably use some type of ramp instead of a band. Since this is a 600 OK, and for a client, the rifle needs to be set up for a removable muzzle brake and thread protector. My design for installing muzzle brakes involves part of the brake being recessed into the band. The shoulder between brake and barrel is actually under the band about half-way back. This keeps the thread protector from protruding too far in front of the band when it is installed. With this set-up you can't see any joint between brake/cap and the barrel as it is under the band. Also, I would normally make the forend cap flush with the muzzle, but we need the thread protector to protrude so we can grab it to unscrew it. I'll post some more photos of the forend cap, brake, thread protector, and how it all goes together, as the project progresses.

The 600 really needs a muzzle brake to make it fun to shoot, especially at top loads. You can download it and shoot without the brake also, and that is what I plan on doing for the next one which I will make for myself, at least until someone talks me out of it.

Wayne

Thanks for the clarification. It's makes sense now.
On your next one you could still use the band as on this one for brake purposes but contour it to match the fore end tip. Almost like they were one piece.

James

James, I agree again. Good idea. This is the first one on the 600 and I'm sure I will have a few different configurations before I settle on one or two. Designing this stuff is the fun part.

I couldn't quite see the schnabel forend there and thought it was just the grain in that part of the wood..very cool!
I can't wait to see this rifle in a month...my grubby hands gonna be alllll over it!

Here's the finished baby. I shot it today and it handles sweet. I'm taking it to SCI and it will be at the GMA booth if you want to see it.

Damn it! I don't need one...I don't need one...I don't need one...

Man o man....

That's it! I found my "grail gun"

Very nice!

Here's a picture of the muzzle end.