its good to see another expert see and apreciate your great work.

The 700HE and 700H 3.25" are now on
Ammoguide, the last page in the
cartridge list. Ed

http://ammoguide.com/?catid=611

Saw info on a break action that
would handle my 700.It is Cole,
with a strong top lock and real wide
strong extractor.Ed

The first test of the 700H 3.25" case, in my test barrel. 825 gr 700 bullet, 230 gr, 760
ball powder, got 2500+ fps. This will be
top load in Enfield. My math shows peak
pressure of 35-38k psi. Energy 11,500.
That will do the Enfield proud.Ed

Got the 700H 3.25" chambered and headspaced to
Enfield. Now will do the freebore and fit action and barrel to a thumbhole stock
I have. I found adjustable reamers I was able to put pilots on to do freebores. Had a 2 deg
slant put on the front of the cutters.Works
great along with my chambering lathe tool.Ed

Hot Dam she bellered today. Slow WC860 ball
powder, 235gr, 825 gr 700 bullet, 1950 fps.
Low pressure load in Enfield. A critter I
reamed out to take the case, added two rear
locking lugs, and it still contacts top half of the front lugs. Put it in a thumbhole BMG
mosquito stock with thick pad. Has a steel
bedding shoulder I put in stock, replaced
16 lb firing pin spring with a 28 lb one
and fires bmg primers perfectly.This case
work perfect in the improved MRC PH.In
pic you see gun with 3.25" case,
with 825 gr jacketed bullet in loading
port.Still have to put on peep sights...Ed

825 gr--full load of 225 gr H-BMG was
1650 fps. Don't hardly recoil. Barrel is
32". Notice trigger guard, it is front
part of Enfield guard inset into grip.
Real comfortable to reach and still have
good grip. Ed

Ed,

I told you the 700 DA/3.25 would be all a person every needs!! thanks!

For the guy who wants to load smaller
loads of fast powder, we have these.
Using 5744, Bluedot, pistol powders,
for reduced speeds,perfect fitting 16ga wads,
as shown in the pic with case.I think
my 700 short and long are very versatile..Ed

Case in above pic fired couple dozen times.
825gr bullets---
RE-25------225gr---2160 fps
RE-22------210gr---2300 fps
7383 Surplus--175gr----2200 fps
Magpro--------235gr---2260 fps
IMR7828-------220gr---2290 fps.
Will test VV-560, IMR 4831, W-760.
You notice I'm using powders at slower
end of the speed chart, that keeps
prssures 30-40k psi. And bolt thrust low
so I have plenty safety margin for a rear
lockup action that I made it into.
I figure shear rating of both rear lugs and
top half of front lugs is 50,000 lbs thrust.
A 40k load in the case gives about 14,000
lbs thrust. Cases extract like they are
falling out, like our 12GA FH loads for
Savage.Will test 1000gr later on. Ed

Shot loads w/825gr with VV 560
double base stick powder, like RE22.
With 220gr, 2350 fps. Got some more 825 gr
coming. I also used up some of the 1000gr
Martin made, by lightening them to
825gr for testing.Ed

Ed,

I've sent you a PM...

Here is a Bohica Arms 50 upper that would
do my long 700HE, with barrel change,
It is only $1000 now. I wonder if they sell
action only and save on the barrel.And if
you did one no silly brake and short barrel.Ed

I wouldn't want to be behind a 1000 grain slug with that crappy plastic though. Ed - what are you making those wads out of?

They are regular 16ga cards and felt wads.
Different thicknesses. Some fiber wads.
Like the 12ga ones I'm using. I have a
a bushel each almost of 16, 12, and 10 ga
cards and wads. Cleaned out a gun clubs
garage. No guessing about airspace if you
slower velocity with fast powders.Ed

I'd like to get a material spec for that stuff. Maybe get a few blank sheets of it and experiment.

Mac- Most is all old Herters brand. It is
great to work with and tough, I like them much
better than plastic overpowder and plastic cushion wads for slugs. I know it's hard
to find it for 2 ans 4 bore.You might find
in sheets and rolls by going through Thomas
Register for felt makers.ED

Here is pic of my setup for chambering using
one flute on a taper reamer. Mark the
reamer for length, feeed it in and set stop.
I feed it it in, in center of bore, the use
cross to feed side of the flute against
material to cut it. Coat reamer with do-drill, everytime it goes in. When it comes out clean flute. I get hardly any chips left inside.
This has allowed me to do 6 different kinds
of chamber work and no reamer expense.
12GA FH, lengthening NEF 12ga, my 585HE, My 700HE and 700H 3,25", 2 & 4bore dies, 8bore dies, etc..Perfect for straight side cases.I use adjustable reamer,with pilot.
to do the freebore. On belted cases I cut
recess with skinny tool.Ed

Ed is the "Mad Max" of Gunmaking! When the Empire finally falls and we're all dining by candle light over a cold bowl of Nail Soup, Ed will still be building exotic firearms with a Mule powered lathe and a screwdriver for a reamer!

It works nice, and saved a pile of money. I done
all kinds of dies and swages, also. It isn't
super fast but does smooth job, ans don't scratch
chamber. I check as I go with cases and inside
telescoping gauges. That swiveling tool holder
head lets me set angle, to match taper of the
side of the case....It made the chamber on the
700HE test barrel that shot a 825 gr bullet
with a hairy load of Blue Dot.Ed

Somewhere I have a photo from a couple years ago of me making a VERY large muzzle brake on a 20" x 60" Engine lathe in a secret location central Europe. If I can find it I'll have someone scan it and post. The thing ran on 680 VAC 50 HZ 3 Phase! Ouch!

Got a box of 825gr .700 jacketed bullets coming from
Copperhead Custom, in Mesa,AZ. Only took about a
week to have them ready. I recommend him, as they
are good quality and he can do the big bores, and is
willing to work with you to get any sizes he
doesn't have dies for. Ed

Ed - Lead is a big No No here in Kaliforniastan and personally I haven't shot any in years. It will probably be gone from most ranges in a couple years.

Mac- Some time will have to try some of
yours, but not with present wood bundle
backstop. It is only 6 ft through..
Which is why the soft jackets.
My cutout in the hillside is back in the
field where I can stop solids.Ed

Anytime you're ready I would be happy to help out if I can. That thing is too much gun for me in that weight with no damper. I'll let you do the honors.

quote:

Originally posted by hubel458:
Here is a Bohica Arms 50 upper that would
do my long 700HE, with barrel change,
It is only $1000 now. I wonder if they sell
action only and save on the barrel.And if
you did one no silly brake and short barrel.Ed

Ed, that is for the upper ONLY not the action. I have seirous doubts about single shots with alum receivers

I know only for upper. But it has been tested and guys are shooting bmg in them, which
as much or more bolt thrust that 700 loads due
to recoil as a limiting factor.I showed it as
an idea for guys likng the Ar-15 look and
owning a lower. There is fellow out west
maybe putting long case in another brand of upper.These can use short or long case.Ed

Others and myself rounding up Savage 210s
for big cases other than regular 12ga.
I am going to put 700H 3.25"in one to show
how guys can get shooting with them before
I'm 90 years old. I shoulda done it along
with 12GA FH.Only a 400 dollar gun that is
big and good for the money. Anybody wanting to do it we will rework bolt and beef up
firing pin strength to fire big primers,
and get them a bunch of cases.......
Then when MRC/McGowen get going we can do
them. Won't wait any more and the Savage will
do as good Enfield I setup, with rear lugs.
Here is pic of 700H w/1000gr in Savage.Ed

Got .700 barrel blank 1.5" diameter for
Savage coming. Paid for last Wed,
being made now, will be here end of
the week. Got big box of 825gr slugs, and
did more testing in Enfield, close to 2400
with 4831 and close to 2500 RE-19..Ed.

Tested 1000gr to 2200.Asked about rear
lugs on the enfield.With crappy camera
on the Enfield its hard to see, but the bolt
handle base is one by adding a little on back,
and it goes into its notch in action rear,
and it makes areal huge locking lug.
The other lugs like on the one for 8bore, one is inline with left lug, back to where it turns and locks in front of rear bridge, the other
in line with rt lug turns down and locks in front of casting at rear of mag opening.Ed

Tested some KDM hardened lubed slugs,
and got 2500 with no leading.These were
585 750gr and I tested them in my 585HE.
I used a card wad under hard slug, and that
acts like a gas check stopping leading, From
my testing, cards are better than gas checks.
Later on as we get more 700H out there
we'll see about getting 700 cal made, as well
as 700 solids that Mac can make.Later on
I am doing a better backstop.Ed

Just for fun took 600 gr 12ga hardened lead slug,
turned to 700 cal, shot in Enfield, got 3000.
It weighed 570gr..Still hard enough, no leading.Ed

Fired one of the 700H 3.25" cases 40 times
and still working good. Primer pocket still
tight. Ed

Another 700 barrel showed up yesterday
in a box along with 8ga barrel, both
32". The 700 is going on a Savage 210
in short time and will be my second 700H
3.25" gun. Everbody thinks the first
one on the Enfield is a blast with long barrel and big thumbhole stock.Ed

Ed
I can't wait for mcgowen or montana to make an action suitable the the 700 DA ... now, 1000gr at 1850 sounds like FUN

Jeff-Suitable at a 'good price' is the operative word.
Well the competition is on, we'll have something soon.
If you load down to 1800, you won't even have to
resize the bottom 2/3 of the case.Ed

My top loads in rear bolt lug Enfield
is 1000gr 2200 - 825 gr 2500-
570gr 3000- 700gr 2700. Last one made
by hollowpointing 825gr. The 570 gr
was hardened lead.Ed.

I got a 210 sitting here in the rack Ed, say WHEN!!!


Rich
DRSS
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I'm getting to mine slowly. Two other deals
to do first. I'm screwed up for time, as
tied up keeping ebay business going, the boy
ruptured some discs, has had operation,
will take to spring to recuperate. And 3
blizzards in a row, keeping heating boilers going, been wearing me out. If I was lucky
a PH would show up first. Pray for spring.Ed