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I am just starting to shoot my Montana Rifleman short action in 376 STeyr.It was put together by Serengeti Rifles And Stocks. I plan to take it to RSA in Mid Sept. So far I have put 20 rounds of Hornady factory ammo;10 rounds each of 225 grain and 270 grain. You know the routine: shoot a couple of rounds; clean it then shoot a couple more then clean it. Both rounds are shooting to the same point of impact. Saturday, I put up my chrongraph at 20 feet and I averaged 2646 from both rounds from my 23 inch barrelat 80 degrees F. The rifle is better than I am as the bullets from both weights are touching. That makes me really happy. I have a box each of barmes 270 grain and A frames and I thought about getting a box of Barnes 270 grains in XLC's and TSX's and maybe a box of 260 grain Accubonds. Anyone have any loads for those bullets in a 376 Steyr? Someone sent me a couple of loads for the 270 gr XLC's but I have not tried them yet 65 to 66 grains of BLC-2 and 61 grains of Ramshot TAC for a 5/8" group at 2486fps from a shorter barreled Steyr. Any thoughts on a 2nd smaller caliber rifle and bullet to take as a back up;plus I may go after some of the tiny 10. I have a 25-06, 270 wsm, 7x57 single shot, 284win and an old savage with a custom trigger in 308win.I used the Savage on my last trip with 165gr HE TBBCs and 168gr Barnes xlc's. The TBBC did not go through a zebra that was shot a little behind the shoulders at maybe 100yards but I had a one shot kill on a frontal quartering shoulder shot at 40 yards on a big Kudu that only went about 40 yards and I got over 3 feet of peneration. Thank you for any help or advise you may offer. | ||
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AA, welcome to the super cool ultra secert steyr club.. if you do a search in big bore and reloading, you should find loads of data. my personal preference is benchmark for the steyr jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I though I was the only one to shoot Steyr. Mine is stock 8MM and a lot of fun to shoot. I like the striate pull bolt and it fits the head of 458 win mag brass, so that is my next convert. Ron | |||
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AA, A comment on bullets. I used the Hornady 270 grain factory load on a hunt in Zim in '01 and shot a big eland in the shoulder. That shot did not make it into the heart lung area, and it took another shot to put the bull on the ground. I judged the Interlock bullet OK for *behind* the shoulder shots through the lungs. I also had a Steyr Scout in .308 Win along on that hunt. Think about borrowing a .22 from your outfitter for the small guys. I have shot two of them with the .308, and it definitely gives the taxidermy folks some work. jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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The Hornadys seem pretty soft to me too. A friend shot a Cape Buff in the brisket facing head-on for a heart shot (416 Rem Mag) and they never saw it again or any blood. Just some thin watery pink fluid at first then nothing. The tracker and PH were convinced the 400 gr Hornady round nose didn't make it inside the ribcage. I'd use the 270 on NA game but not Africa. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Hornady Interlock RN = bad on cape buffalo, no matter what caliber. I guess using those cheap bullets really paid off!! "The atomic bomb made the prospect of future war unendurable. It has led us up those last few steps to the mountain pass; and beyond there is a different country." - J. Robert Oppenheimer | |||
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Actually, he came relatively pepared but the day the opportunity came his rifle (a Searcy, BTW) broke and his wife was off with the other rifle he brought. The 416 was lent to him by another hunter who only brough the Hornady ammo. Cheap lesson for him, guess. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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AA, If you don't mind, what contour is your barrel? In particluar what length, and what muzzle diameter? I am building another .376, and still cognitating on what specs to use on the barrel. thanks...jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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The .376 seems to be a love it or hate it round. We had one hunter using a .376 Steyr Scout rifle on Safari last year, and everything he shot with it went down - Eland, Kudu, Waterbuck, Wildebeest, Zebra, Water Buffalo, Gemsbok, Impala, Warthog. Only the Water Buffalo required more than one shot, and that was with those "cheap" 270 grain Hornaday bullets. I think there may be something to do with range and marksmanship too. LLS  | |||
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Jim, I too am working on my second one.. it'll be a take off ccz barrel, a nice vz 24, and haven't decided on the stock yet.. going to be a 22" or so, lighter than the last one, and on the 98 rather than 98 mexican. other than light caliber shooters, every one who's pulled the trigger on mine likes it. Haven't had a soul, even a fella that thinks a 300 wsm kicks, not like it... feeds really well, can be loaded around to whereever you want it, and has factory ammo on midway. jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I would opine that anybody going to Africa with the Steyr Scout .376 is probably a good shooter: this hunter sounds like a Gunsite (or equivalent school) graduate.  The guys I know of in Alaska and Africa all report mostly one-shot kills. jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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Actually, Jim, he isn't a Gunsite grad, but yours truly did provide some coaching on field shooting. Does that count?  --- Eric Ching "The pen is mightier than the sword...except in a swordfight." | |||
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Sierra 2, Realizing that a few ranches in RSA do have Water Buffalo, did you mean Water Buffalo or Cape Buffalo which is the more common species in Africa. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Eric, Personal coaching by a Gunsite grad and instructor definitely counts! jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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Jim, my best results are with benchmark, but 2677 with 270s is a darn good load... what have you gotten from 300s? i've creacked 2500 somewhat with 300s, but the primers started to look like factory 270 grain loads, so i backed that off to 2425, which i am very comfortable with. my pig hunting load is a listed max load of benchmark and hornady 225 sps which were designed for/with the steyr Like my first steyr, i think your current contour is a little heavy. I would love to finish out my next one about 7.25 to 7.5#, empty, clean, just gun, stock, and sights jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Ray: In sierra2's absence, let me reply to your question about what type of buffalo was involved. Yes, it was a water buffalo. I don't know the story of why it was on this particular property. --- Eric Ching "The pen is mightier than the sword...except in a swordfight." | |||
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working on my first steyr .376 on 98 reciever, 22 inch bbl. will never get to africa, but will be content to hunt whitetails with cast bullets. this combo has got to be sweet. hope to end up with combo under 8 1/2 lbs. The big lead slugs should be perfect for woods hunting. | |||
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Hope to get mine boxed up and sent to Dennis Olson so he can screw me a barrel on it. I have a Shilen brl and 3 pos safety and etc to sent to him. One question I do have, how many are you guys getting down in a 98. I can get 3 down, but no way to get 4 down unless I threw the follow and spring away  Billy, High in the shoulder (we band of bubbas) | |||
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I can easly get 4 down and 1 in the chamber of my 376 Steyr which is a model 1999 Montana Rifleman. I can also drop one on the follower when it is empty and it feeds that one every time. When Serengeti rifles and stocks put one of their beautiful laminated stocks on my barreled action they also did a lot of other things including their Serengeti treatment to the action. I think it also spent some time at Dennis Olsen's. It feeds really well. I was the first to have a barrel in 376 Steyr from Montana Rifles as I was charged for the chamber reamer. I also notice that they now have a footnote that you must ge someone else to do the feeding work. Must have had some problems when they did mine. I have a SS model that was coated by Serengeti. I could not be happier with the results. | |||
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Count me in as another satisfied .376 customer. I took my .458 Lott and my Steyr Scout in .308 to Zimbabwe last summer, and just always felt naked when I switched to the .308. What seemed plenty everywhere else felt mighty puny when watching the elephants walk by 30 yards away. Especially so the day the apprentice PH took me out after Impala, which turned into a 4 hour Kudu stalk, which was doubly exciting because I was the only one with a rifle, and it was a .308 loaded with soft points. The phrase, “Use enough gun,†kept running through my head, and no one in merry little band had the foresight to have brought one. That’s just bad staff work, if you ask me. Immediately upon my return, I ordered a Scout in .376, and have been totally thrilled with it since acquisition. It’s a dream to shoot, groups sub 1 MOA from the bipod with the 2.75x scope and is powerful enough to at least give me a fighting chance on any unplanned encounters in the mopane. I’m loading .270 Barnes TSX’s at 2400 out of the 19†bbl. Until I find some published data for it, I’m not going to soup it up much more. It’s only accounted for a couple of wild boar so far, but it does them with authority. "If you can get closer, get closer. If you can get steadier, get steadier." | |||
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Army Aviator, Thanks for the read-out on your barrel. I bought a pair of M99 actions also to build .458 Lott rifles. They are nothing if not sturdy. I have also been thinking about the MR laminated stock. I intend a walnut and blue steel rifle. jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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Not to hijack the thread, but all you guys putting a .376 Steyr on 98 actions got me to wondering what is the pressure rating for this cartridge. Would it be safe for a 1908 Brazillian Mauser (DWM-Berlin) of otherwise unknown ancestry (previous to my ownership...and 500 or so factory .280 Rem loads through it since?) Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. | |||
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CDH, "Safe" aint an answer i can give.. i have done it in a 1936 mexican... i am a little iffy on 1908 and 1909 without having them heat treated, but the 280 is, factory, lower pressure than a 270 or the steyr. i've got a nice brazilian that could become a 416 aagard. jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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A 458 lott is a LOOOOONG bullet, Is the Mag box in your M99 going to fit? If you roll your own you can go with 300 to 350 grain cast rounds and cut the power and seat the bullet a little lower. I you are going to go with a 500g factory load you will need a long Mag box or to make yours longer. My 458 needed 40/1000 removed from the box for a 500g round to fit. | |||
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If you think it has a problem, magnaflux it. If you don't think it is damaged, go for it. I have yet to see a Mauser in good shape that will not handle any thing "normal". I would think long and hard about a BMG, but even a BMG is with in normal chamber pressures. A 700 Nitro, I would need to look over the data. A 600 Nitro, unless you have a bad action, should be ok. Anything smaller, not a problem I can see. For that matter, I am getting ready to put a 458 on a Steyr action. Much like a Mauser but not as heavy. Now that Russian Nagant,(sp) That is a beast of an action. I am looking at what I can do to one right now. Theres a LOT of steal in them. The machine work sucks big time, but they were fighting for there life when it was made in 1943 so I must cut them some slack. But what a beast any way! | |||
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Ditto - First Rule - Shot Placement. Roland | |||
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Ronjulian, I sent the M99 actions to Jim Brockman, and he turned them into finished rifles. I ordered them in the standard size with the H&H magazine box and magnum bolt face. The Mauser action I have for the .376 Steyr is a commercial Mauser intermediate length. jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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Off topic here, I have Remington Mod 6 in 45 long colt with Oct barrel. I am looking for a mold for 250g to 300g HP with/out gas check. Any ideas? | |||
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Also looking for a mold in 445 to 452 HP 250 to 300 Grains for my 44 La Mat. Ron | |||
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WAY off topic http://www.customcastbullets.com opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Sorry for being away, and thanks Slingster, I have no idea why an Asian Water Buff would be on a ranch in RSA, EXCEPT that I have seen herds of Asian Water Buffs on gaem ranches here in the US. BTW IF anyone wants to see a marvelous herd of animals, go to BradyRanch.com to see their herd in Florida. I did not believe the pics until I actually went there, and the pics on their website do not do it justice. And yes they really have Buffs. But back to the RSA, the shooter is not a Gunsite grad, but he did put in a lot of practice in CA before going on the trip, and it paid off. I cannot think of a single thing a hunter can do that betters his chances of success any more than EXTENSIVE marksmanship drills. LLS | |||
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with a 376. I bought my Steyr on closeout for a ridiculously low price. Everybody said it would never be anything. It sure is easier to stroke than a 375 H&H. I've always suspected the Interbond on dangerous game. I'll change it for a Nosler. Anything Worth Doing Is Worth Overdoing. | |||
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Friends- Would someone be so kind as to post a picture of a round of loaded .376 Steyr ammo with, say, a .375 H&H round as a comparison. Thanks in advance. May the wind be in your face and the sun at your back. P. Mark Stark | |||
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Well I weight my Montana Arms in 376 Steyr today on accurate scales at my local fish market. 9 lbs 3 ozs everthing except 5 rounds of ammo. 23 inch #4 barrel with banded front sight peep site and Talley removeable 30mm rings with a 1.25x4 30mm Leupold scope with a special selection laminated Stock fron Serengeti in their Leopard profile. I would like a little less weight but I did not want their cheetah profile stock and the #4 profile barrel was the smallest that Montana arms listed for a .375 caliber. Of course Serengti Rifles advertised a new model called the Walkabout that has a 22" barrel and weighs about 7 to 7.5 pounds. As for the 2677 FPS {2648 AVerage at 20'} those are Factory 270gr rounds and they are plenty hot for my rifle at 80 to 90 degrees as I see a small ejector mark on some of the case heads but not on the 225 gr factory loads. I sent dummie rounds with 270 grain A-Frames and Barnes Xs and ask that they chamber for those bullets at 3.00" OAL and that feeding was the most important thimg. I am happy with the results and will be taking the rifle to Africa next month for some plains game. Of course I plan to take something a little lighter in both weight and caliber. My lighest rifle is a model 10 Dakota single shot in 7x57 that weighs under 7lbs with a 2.5x8 Leupold. What are some of the thoughts out there on that for a second rifle. Last time I shot everything with an old Savage in 308 with a custom trigger and a 1.5x6 x 42 S @ B scope. Going that route I am only out one expensive rifle {to me} and one low price rifle with a high price scope if the airlines damage or lose them. | |||
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Just to add my experience with the .376 Steyr Scout to the thread, I used handloads of 300-grain Woodleigh Protected Point as 2320 fps to take nyala at 12 yards (DRT), eland at 60 yards (20 yard run), waterbuck at 150 yards (80 yard run), and bushbuck at 50 yards (DRT). I had intended to try it on buffalo, but opted instead for a double rifle when a nice Merkel .470 NE came my way just before the trip. On a subsequent trip I took a Blaser R93 in 9.3x62 with 286-grain Nosler Partition handloads at 2330 fps. It dropped a sable DRT at 60 yards, two waterbuck at 80 yards (one DRT but later stood up and needed a finisher, the other made a 20-yard run), one impala at 50 yards (DRT), and another impala at 200+ yards (DRT). Frankly, I'm not sure I could tell the difference between the .376/300 and the 9.3/286 in performance on game. --- Eric Ching "The pen is mightier than the sword...except in a swordfight." | |||
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Eric, I expect those two are so close together that field performance will be descriptive of the bullet's quality. (I know you can shoot well enough to ensure proper bullet placement.) I tried to get Steyr to market the .376 Steyr as the 21st century upgrade of the 9.3X62. jim if you're too busy to hunt,you're too busy. | |||
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Jim: And I tried to convince Steyr-Mannlicher to bring out the .376 Steyr in a 60cm-barreled, iron-sighted, wood-stocked "African" SBS rifle instead of just in the Scout and ProHunter carbine, and my success was the same as yours. --- Eric Ching "The pen is mightier than the sword...except in a swordfight." | |||
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Eric, I am very pleased with the design i finaly came up with on my mexican mauser 376, with a 24.5" barrel. Though I chose too heavy a contour So, tomorrow night, or friday, I am taking a CZ takeoff 375 barrel and a brazilian 98 action over to a friends and we are going to put that together... I'll probably use a type b stock for that one, iron's only jeffe opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Dear Eric:
The lack of success in Europe is understandable (though maybe undeserved): For we have the 9,3x64 (since 1927) and the superb recent 9,5x66 Super Express vom Hofe. No real need for a .376 Steyr though. But I wonder indeed why this fine and powerful handy-cartridge does not enjoy more popularity in the USA and some other imperial measurement countries... Best regards, Carcano -- "Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither." "Is the world less safe now than before you declared your Holy war? You bet!" (DUK asking Americans, 14th June 2004) | |||
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