Yah! but I did buy 500 cases, just in case (pun intended, ouch!) you are right. A 358 RUM would have been perfect, IMHO, for everything but the Big Three. It seems to just be commmon sense to buy 500 cases for any rifle you purchase.

Rich
NRA Life Member
DRSS

I wonder if someone would be kind enough to remove my 375 Ruger article from this thread. The RealGuns site is free to access and doesn't even require free registration to access this article. I don't mind reasonable quotes from the material, but wholesale copying is doing a disservice to a fellow firearm enthusiast who spends a great deal of time and money to produce a free web site for folks like yourself.

Thanks for the consideration - Joe.

Incidentally, that custom 9.3 is beautiful. My compliments to the person who had the good taste and skill to produce it.

joe-4570,
Welcome to ar.com.
That would be .366torque who could delete the copy of your text (which is at least minus the excellent phototography and cartridge drawing which can be viewed by going to the realguns site), or one of moderators/administrators.
We must allow you to get the bean count on your home site that the excellent article deserves, eh?
www.realguns.com/archives/134.htm

Keep up the good work.

Ron,

A couple of non gun forums I am on will only allow a link to a site to be posted....no text or pictures posted from the site.

Joe has a site with a ton of info....but it does help if you like those rifles where the front of the bolt looks like an interupted thread

Check out the 358/378 and from memory he had it done with the Wby double radius shoulder.

Mike

Mike,
I checked it out.
My thoughts: .395/.378 Wby = ".398 Wby" for easy headstamp alteration.

I would register as a member at realguns.com, if they would let me use a hotmail email address, but they won't.
That limits their membership a bit no doubt.
Some of us travelers like to use the "unreal" email addresses.

Thanks for the nice comments. I shot a private message to .366 torque as suggested. I have actually posted here from time to time but wasn't sure of the mechanics of communications. It is a good discussion community with excellent information. I also check reference links from time to time to find "constructive critcism" on some of my efforts.

Ron,

I thought AR no longer allowed the Hotmails etc.

I have 3 internet outlets and I can access emails from any computer and anywhere. For example, the email I have on AR is with Optus which is Australia's second biggest. If I was at your place now I would simply open an Optus website and enter my user name and password and there are all the emails. I can also email from that site to someone else.

In fact a few weeks ago the cable modem for my optus died and I had a couple of emails from forum members which I picked up by opening the Optus site on one of my other internet servers and replied to their emails via that site, so as to keep the email address consistent.

Mike

quote:

Originally posted by joe-4570:
Thanks for the nice comments. I shot a private message to .366 torque as suggested. I have actually posted here from time to time but wasn't sure of the mechanics of communications. It is a good discussion community with excellent information. I also check reference links from time to time to find "constructive critcism" on some of my efforts.

Done. Post deleted, sorry about that.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike McGuire:
Ron,

I thought AR no longer allowed the Hotmails etc.

In that case, I remain here as part of the "grandfather clause."

Ron,

If you start any more of those stir type threads you might enter a ban cycle and when you come back you might be on the grandaughter clause

grandaughter or granddaugter or grand daughter

Mike

quote:

Originally posted by Mike McGuire:
Ron,

If you start any more of those stir type threads you might enter a ban cycle and when you come back you might be on the grandaughter clause

grandaughter or granddaugter or grand daughter

Mike

Mike,
The hornswoggle thread? I was badgered into it by PM's from an interested party who would also qualify as a grandfather. That brought it to a head really fast. And now the boil has been nicely drained, thanks to you.

Hey RIP.....did you get the ammo for the 375 yet?

and may I ask what ya had to shell out for it?....just being nosey I guess.

Or in other words....do you feel hornswaggeled by Hornady?

Vapodog,
The ammo is not available from Hornady yet. Shipments come in daily Mon-Fri at the local emporium, but no .375 Ruger so far.

I puzzle over this and wonder if they are pulling all the bullets and reloading the latest new replacement for the brittle Interbond, and going back to a steel FMJ solid like the old style ... whatever. The brass is all I am interested in, aside from chronographing to see just how outlandish the hype has been about the velocity acheived by the factory loads with whatever bullet.

Price? Whatever the market will bear, we shall see.

quote:

I puzzle over this and wonder if they are pulling all the bullets and reloading the latest new replacement for the brittle Interbond, and going back to a steel FMJ solid like the old style

It should be clear that Hornady know's their DG bullet sucks a big one.....Hornady himself was there to see it!!!

It would surprise me however if they would shuck the 270 spire point as it's a pretty good plains game bullet and big game bullet IMO.....The interbond is not in my experience yet.

I know they went away from the copperclad steel jackets as they was unable to get the material.....If they are getting some from aussieland....I'm not sure but there's no reason I can see that they shouldn't have that ammo available in 270 grain interlocks.

On another thread it was stated that their 9.3 X 74 ammo is not loaded with their bullet.....this is a first for Hornady.....(I'm still not sure this is true)

That said.....ElStevo would do well to talk to the guys in Kansas about stuffing a few A-Frames in them.......now that's worth something!!! but a much too bitter pill to swallow!!!!!

Ammo on the shelf at Midway.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=741546

$47.99

Still too rich for your blood, Vapo?

quote:

Originally posted by syd-jai:

$47.99

That will not increase its popularity.

The best thing about the 375 Ruger is that it seems to have distracted all the folks that trash the WSMs!

quote:

Originally posted by syd-jai:
Ammo on the shelf at Midway.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=741546

$47.99

Still too rich for your blood, Vapo?

Given that this is merely for brass.......the cup and core bullet is free....pull it and reload it!!!!...yes...it's still too much.

Loaded with A-Frames or Northforks or TBBCs and it's possibly a fair buy.

quote:

Originally posted by vapodog:
Cut the deck anyway you like it......there's only one way to shoot it.....and that's to buy ammo from Hornady.....no one else makes it and the brass and dies are not available.

In the world I live in, $65 a box of 20 kills a gun!!!

for me 40 a box is lethal

quote:

Originally posted by vapodog:
Cut the deck anyway you like it......there's only one way to shoot it.....and that's to buy ammo from Hornady.....no one else makes it and the brass and dies are not available.

In the world I live in, $65 a box of 20 kills a gun!!!

vapodog - In this part of the world we won't even know the 375 Ruger exists until this time next year.

Only 3 boxes available at Midway???
Supposed to be a hundred boxes here tomorrow:
www.whittakerguns.com

quote:

Originally posted by Ratltrap:
vapodog - In this part of the world we won't even know the 375 Ruger exists until this time next year.

That should be good as possibly by that time the darn thing might be so popular that Winchester might load it as well....or Remington. A bit of competition will bring down the prices and it might then be affordable to the folks it was intended.

People are funny animals. $40-50 a box for ammo dooms the cartridge. At the same time they pay $37.50 for 20 .416 Rigby EMPTY brass and are hollering for Ruger to make the .450/400 No. 1 which will be the same way. Doesn't make any sense to me. I'm not sure I can even buy Norma Rigby brass for that now. I'm relatively certain that the ammo problem is due to Hornady not wanting to use those old bullets and tarnishing the reputation of a brand new rifle and cartridge. Better to have people wait a bit than to have crap bullets.

this is beginning to sound like the bubbas and their 45-70 double rifle from remington for $500.00

remington will be very busy making ammo for ruger rifles .... and selling the $500 double
rifle.

seems to me another waste of time by marketing people

just load the 375 holland with the powder used in the wsm - fill it full, maybe even compress the load. cram in as much as possible.

you'll get velocity you never dreamed of.....

quote:

Originally posted by mr.pepper:

quote:

Originally posted by vapodog:

In the world I live in, $65 a box of 20 kills a gun!!!

for me 40 a box is lethal

Be thankful you don't live in Canada. That would rule out everything but plain vanilla 30/06, 270 Win, 30-30, etc.

Just about everything is $40 or more up here.

The CHEAPEST 375 H&H ammo I can usually find is just shy of $50. Any of the premium ammo is usually $75 and up.

Reloading is pretty popular as a result.

Cheers,
Canuck

quote:

Originally posted by 500grains:

quote:

Originally posted by syd-jai:

$47.99

That will not increase its popularity.

why's that? it's nearly 10 bucks cheaper than federal 375 HH

quote:

Originally posted by tomo577:
this is beginning to sound like the bubbas and their 45-70 double rifle from remington for $500.00

Tom,
do you realize how UNINFORMED you sound? not stupid, not assinine, not even jerky... but UNINFORMED

Ammo is on the shelf, cheaper than 375 HH
The guns are out .. with the exception of the CZ, THE cheapest 375 CRF DGR avaible...

and loads have been PROVEN

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
article states

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-Hawkeye375.htm
Bullet Powder Charge OAL Velocity
Hornady 225 SP H414 90 3.41" 3068
Hornady 225 SP H4350 86 3.41" 2938
Hornady 225 SP H4350 88 3.41" 3019
Hornady 225 SP H4350 89.7 3.41" 3100
Hornady 270 SP H4350 85 3.413" 2783
Hornady 270 SP H4350 86 3.413" 2828
Hornady 270 SP H4350 87 3.413" 2875
Hornady 300 FMJ H4350 84.7 3.349" 2782
Barnes 210X Varget 76 3.297" 2965
Barnes 210X Varget 78 3.297" 3029
Barnes 210X H414 88 3.346" 3085
Barnes 235 XLC H4350 88.2 3.361" 2940
Barnes 235 XLC H414 88 3.351" 2970
Barnes 270 XLC H414 86.1 3.357" 2975
Barnes 270 TSX H414 86.1 3.331" 2856
Barnes 300 TSX H4350 84.7 3.366" 2757
Sierra 200 JRN H414 87 3.16" 3032
Sierra 200 JRN H414 88.2 3.16" 3055
Sierra 200 JRN Varget 85.2 3.16" 3300
Hornady 270 SP (Factory Load) 2758

Now, if you think you can find a point, other than the one under your hat, would you state it?


This is beginning to sound more like

"the damnyankee still can't accept that someone else might want what he does not want, and is willing to make an ass of himself trying to make others look bad"

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:


Tom,
do you realize how UNINFORMED you sound? not stupid, not assinine, not even jerky... but UNINFORMED

Jeffe,
I disagree.....it is more than uninformed...it's just plain arrogant!
Read his other posts!

While I could see while folks jumped on the 338 federal and 325 WSM as stillborn, I don't see why all the animosity towards the Ruger?

While I agree there likely will never be a round to topple the 375 H&H, the 375 Ruger IMHO fits a very real niche, at this point in time.

With the current demise of the Win M70, the only domestic crf is the Ruger. While Ruger does have their magnum 77, it is really sized for the 416 Rigby and larger rounds.

So, with the std length M77 action, having a domestic crf 375 fills a slot. Will it succeed? depends on how many guns Ruger needs to make per annum for it to succeed. Given Remingtons record of introducing, and dropping the larger bores, there is definately a spot for it.

If you don't want one, don't sweat it, but don't call it dead, just yet

I think to a young, just starting out broke PH this is THE rifle to have. That kind of dependable power at that price!!! Whats not to like ????????....................JJ