I was wondering what folks think of the 45-70 threads and ensuing posts.....So I made up this poll

Question:
If there was a special forum just for the 45-70 then:.......check the most likely

Choices:
Boomstick would never be heard from again
A few folks would be in pig heaven
all of us would be happy to not be tempted to read them
No more Cape Buffalo would ever again be wounded by a 45-70
Peace would finally come to the middle east!

 

There is a Yahoo forum devoted exclusively devoted to the 45-70 !! No one else matters. If everyone had a 45-70 there would be peace in the whole universe and the parallel universe too !!!

I don't agree with the assumption being made here ... that a 45/70 Forum on AR is desirable for any reason. There aren't enough "lively" discussions related to the 45/70 to lessen the value of the existing Big Bore Forum.

AH!! Wounding is in the eye of the mis holder. Next people will try to tell TR that his 405 was under powered.

What was that old saying about the poor workman?

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I don't agree with the assumption being made here ...

There are really no assumptions at all......or anyway none I intended.....this entire thread is meant as humor and nothing more.....sorry if it wasn't evident!

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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I don't agree with the assumption being made here ...

There are really no assumptions at all......or anyway none I intended.....this entire thread is meant as humor and nothing more.....sorry if it wasn't evident!

Ban posts on the 45-70 from the big bore forum, listen to boomstick whine for a couple weeks, and then he can tell everyone on the medium bore forum (or where ever) what a great round it is.

The 45-70 is not a big bore, it's a low power catridge with a bullet of large diameter.

A 45-70 forum! The boomstick happy dance!!

We need a 35cal to 45/70 forum.
Throw in 500 S&W.Ed

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We need a 35cal to 45/70 forum.
Throw in 500 S&W.Ed

No, we don't. There are already too many forums with little activity.

boom stick should ask most of his .45-70 questions on the 'Lever action' forum, where they would be met with FAR more enthusiasm and interest and be more topical.

George

I agree with george that there are way way too many forums. why don't you all just do what I did, put boomstick on ignore. it really does wonders.

Red

Or maybe Boomstick could have his own forum, like Walter?

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Originally posted by Dago Red:
I agree with george that there are way way too many forums. why don't you all just do what I did, put boomstick on ignore. it really does wonders.

Red

Ignore Boomie?, Naw, he's alomost as entertaining as Da Man, TORF, and BBBruce.

There is one already.

It's in the "Other Topics" Section, right underneath "Recipes for Hunters".

All 458's are big bores.

vapo, you left out the most ovious choice: ALL OF THE ABOVE.

Keith

After writing a lengthy post on this, most delicate of subjects, I found it in best interest to erase it all, and just say: if it will help differentiate the .45-70 posts from the posts about real DG rifles, then I'm all for them having their own place to gather, and discuss their rimfire-like ballistics.

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Originally posted by walksfar:
After writing a lengthy post on this, most delicate of subjects, I found it in best interest to erase it all, and just say: if it will help differentiate the .45-70 posts from the posts about real DG rifles, then I'm all for them having their own place to gather, and discuss their rimfire-like ballistics.

So far as I can tell from the forum heading this is not a dangerous game rifle forum. So a .577 Snider qualifies.
So how would a Contender carbine in .44 Magnum look dressed up with NECG banded front sight with an express open sight? Oops ...forgot the banded front swivel mount.
And then there are those .46 Extra long rimfire Ballards that are so tough to load for.

If you are talking about BP rifle cart's.

Big Bore is spelled, 4, 8, and 10.

Keith

I have to agree about the name of the forum. If this is not a big bore forum then lets name it DG rifle forum. Not that that would end the debate because all DG is not in Africa. Maybe the discussion of DG rifles should only take place in the Africa forums and leave this for all big bore shooters regardless of game hunted or where its huntied. Last but not least, this is america and if you don't want to read a post about the 45-70 or 500 S&W, you sure don't have to. Don't click on it if its irritating to you.

If its all in good fun then pardon my rant.

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Originally posted by BearHunter 62:
if its all in good fun then pardon my rant.

It is!.....but it is interesting that Boom Stick has not posted!

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Originally posted by BearHunter 62:
All 458's are big bores.

If the cartridge 's factory designation begines with "450", or "458" they are! If they begine with "45" they are big pistol cartridges, and best left to deer hunting in woods!

I agree, however, it doesn't need a special forum, if you don't want to read about the old INDIAN KILLER, then pass right on by a string that contains mention of it!

I see no need for a special forum either however I see no reason that the 45-70 should not be included in the big bore forum. Its a big bore rifle and a million buffalo can't be wrong.

I love my 45-70s and have killed alot of things with them. I know I will never be able to hunt Africa DG. If/when I save enough for a bear hunt, I would take a 45-70....or my bow!
But I agree that a 45-70 forum wouldn't get that much business. I would love a "real" big bore...but I don't know what I would shoot with it. I have taken prairie dogs with my 45-70...but no buffalo yet.

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it's a low power catridge with a bullet of large diameter

Hmmmm....I haven't recovered one yet from a game animal. Isn't it great we can all use what we personally get a kick out of??

I for one find it incredibly interesting just how much discussion a guy who admittedly has never owned a Big Bore can generate. Admittedly, Boomstick seems to be a nice guy, but spending endless amounts of time dreaming up wildcats he has no intention of ever building seems pretty odd to me. The 45-70 is a fun cardtridge and yes it is a big BORE but jeesh what a waste of time. Boomstick needs to buy a real gun and learn how to shoot it. If it were legal we should take up a collection just to end his virginity!!!!-Rob

rob...i am working on it.

i will tame my unwelcome enthusiasm.

Boomie- Read the mail! You seem to be a nice guy and certainly enthusiastic, but drop the "I am working on it crap" There are alot of guys on this site who probably REALLY can't afford a high priced big bore but SOMEHOW find the money and do it! I think you really need to do something serious about your credibility. GO BUY A REAL BIG BORE! SELL YOUR 45-70, your PORN collection etc. Buy beer instead of scotch etc. Figure it out for god sakes! Otherwise your going to wind up a wannabe forever! Just some sound advice from a guy who also once couldn't afford much of anything!-Rob

o.k. how about its just a matter of time...

thanks fot the kick in the pants...

i have been promoted at work so hopefully it wont be too long. i work in the mortgage industry so just having a job right now i should be thanking buddha with all the lay offs/closings ect but getting promoted in these times i hope you see i am not a lazy @#$% our market sector is slow right now so no scotch and cigars for me right now.
no i am not one of those telemarketers so dont send me nasty p.m.'s

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Originally posted by BearHunter 62:
(sic)Last but not least, this is america and if you don't want to read a post about the 45-70 or 500 S&W, you sure don't have to. Don't click on it if its irritating to you.

If its all in good fun then pardon my rant.

Actually no, this isn't America, it's a web site hosted by the United Arab Emirates, and AR is an international forum.

Anyhow, I agree with George, we have too many forums and I'd be glad to see 1/2 of them go.

As far as the 45-70, it's like a 500cc moped

Paul, I think the .45-70 exceeds the speed of the 50cc moped (haven't seen a 500cc moped) by all of 25 fps, maybe 50 fps.

(and I do agree that .45-70s are fun)

the 45-70 does not need any defending though it does get plenty of ridicule...

it is the most popular big bore in america for many reasons and for that alone could merrit its own board.

regarding the moped...

here i say the 45-70 is like having a fat girlfriend or a moped...they are fun to ride but you dont want your friends to catch you on one...

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here i say the 45-70 is like having a fat girlfriend or a moped...they are fun to ride but you dont want your friends to catch you on one... rotflmo

I will not admit to having experience with the first two things......and I'll just take your word for the last. I did ride a Cushman super eagle once......and was never afraid to be seen on it!

Boomstick- Go to Krausewerk in San Mateo. TRADE your 45-70 in on the CZ 458 Lott on the wall. It's been there for months. Talk nice to Mike. Figure on adding $700-800. I'm trying to save your immortal soul here. Listen carefully! DO NOT HESITATE! TAKE THE PLUNGE! If It won't feed I'll fix it for free. I'll do anything to end these 45-70 posts!-Rob

in french polynesia scooters are the way to get around island style...the only times i used one was there. i sold my bmw bike to raise money for my wedding...i miss that bike

i think my next bike is a norton...

as far as fatties go i dont have any riding experience

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Boomstick- Go to Krausewerk in San Mateo. TRADE your 45-70 in on the CZ 458 Lott on the wall. It's been there for months. Talk nice to Mike. Figure on adding $700-800. I'm trying to save your immortal soul here. Listen carefully! DO NOT HESITATE! TAKE THE PLUNGE! If It won't feed I'll fix it for free. I'll do anything to end these 45-70 posts!-Rob

hahahahahaha...

nope i dont have a spare $700 right now...

mine has a nice leupold 1.5x fixed and ashleigh sights...(sweet) so i'd get more for it.

i would consider a lott trade if it were a c.z. or other crf...

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Originally posted by boom stick:
i would consider a lott trade if it were a c.z. or other crf...

You can start off with reduced loads then work up to a Lott sized fun!

go to any BP matches and badmouth the 45-70...then prepare for a discussion about how the indians felt about them, and the bison...two groups that are able to comment based on personal experience about the lack of killing/stopping power. The 45-70 appeared on the plains in 1874...eight years later both of the afore-mentioned groups had been decimated.
Another anti-45-70 fantasy shot down by reality and history.

Rich
DRSS

AMEN TO THAT.

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
go to any BP matches and badmouth the 45-70...then prepare for a discussion about how the indians felt about them, and the bison...two groups that are able to comment based on personal experience about the lack of killing/stopping power. The 45-70 appeared on the plains in 1874...eight years later both of the afore-mentioned groups had been decimated.
Another anti-45-70 fantasy shot down by reality and history.

Rich
DRSS

HogKiller and I were talking last night. It renewed my "need" for a 1886 in a 45-90 or 50-110. A 45-70 would be great for serious target shooting. But a 50-110 for hunting bear would be great!