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Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
Man,give me a break...how absurd! I'll have you know it will weigh a full 7 1/2pds!

Tom,
I will hold you personally responsible if Wayne and/or Ed are injured test-firing that thing before completing my father's 585AHR! Of course after that, work begins on my 495AHR!

Doc, we are not building this one for Tom. There are some things we just won't do.

Yes,this will be my "everything"gun,from lil trees to Buff-Boar-Bear! I must say that I will shoot this one with "Reduced Loads" of 900s @ 1800fps..maybe some 2000s later? It will have a Integral Brake in its 16" Barrel...A Elephant is inlaid in its PG Cap and It will have its name "The Rogue" engraved on the barrel!....Also,it should get "Heavier" by 16 ounces when I add the Scope/Rings on top...Contrary to popular belief,I am not a masochist

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Contrary to popular belief,I am not a masochist

Are you sure?

Tom- You are an inspiration. You also bring my work to the next level of insanity. 8lb 12GaFH anyone?-Rob

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Tom- You are an inspiration. You also bring my work to the next level of insanity. 8lb 12GaFH anyone?-Rob

Now you gone and done it! You know he'll ask you to build him one!!!

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Tom- You are an inspiration. You also bring my work to the next level of insanity. 8lb 12GaFH anyone?-Rob

Rob,
I am certain you have one of these for use with your other toys. I'll lend Tom mine, but for his "Featherweight 600" he should use one of these:

Kid won't have any trouble with 900 grains at 1800 ft/sec. That is about 6472 ft.lbs of energy. His 6.5 lb 500 Jeffery was getting 2200 ft/sec with 570 grain bullets for 6123 ft.lbs of energy, and it weighed a pound less!! Its mine now, and it is shootable.

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:

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Originally posted by trophyhunter5000:
Nothing scientific here...

Just having some fun with my Overkill...

Five gallon jugs at around twenty paces...

900 grainers at around 2150 -- 2200...

and don't forget the youtube video of the 600OK vs. watermellon

Was upstate NY again last Sunday having more fun with the Kodiak 900gr softs, Barnes 900gr Banded Solids and Rob's 730gr drill-bits. Still trying to find enough trees to line up to stop the BBS or Rob's hole puncher - they just keep going and going and going ...

One other thing about AHR's rifles. I decided to see how quickly I could accurately fire three 600 Overkills - a load that pushed 900gr BBS at 2,235fps over the Oehler 35P. I was expecting a long time-to-recovery and was surprised how quickly I got them off and that all three were on the 1 1/2" green "dot" I was using as a target at 25 yards. I should have captured this on video so I could time it, but was rushed to get back on the road and didn't set it up. This can only be a testament to proper rifle build and the care with which Wayne and Ed put these things together.

CCMDoc:

I was particularly impressed by the picture of your 600 OK. Can you tell me a little more about the specifics? What kind and what grade of wood did you select? What is the barrel length? What does it weigh? What is the finish on the metal? Any information that you could give me would be greatly appreciated. I don't think I would build a 600 OK but I am in the process of building a .450 Dakota.

Dave

Hey you 600erers. I had sent an e-mail request a while back to Barnes to ask them the possibility of them making a TSX style bullet for the 600's since they are already doing the Banded Solid and the response i just got was:
"Hi Joe,

Thanks for the great suggestion. I'm happy to file a formal request on your behalf.

So we'll see. With all you guys's great designs and maybe more from them big guys, the 600 caliber is getting to be really fun to load for compared to just a few years ago

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Originally posted by Dave Bush:
CCMDoc:

I was particularly impressed by the picture of your 600 OK. Can you tell me a little more about the specifics? What kind and what grade of wood did you select? What is the barrel length? What does it weigh? What is the finish on the metal? Any information that you could give me would be greatly appreciated. I don't think I would build a 600 OK but I am in the process of building a .450 Dakota.

Dave

Hi Dave,
You will have to check with Ed Plummer about type and grade of wood, but it is the upgrade over standard.
LOP is 13.5"
At Ed's suggestion (more like arm-twisting), I went with a 23" barrel instead of 26" - he was right.
The finish is GunKote - again, Ed can tell you which color was used. I am actually going to go with the Graphite GunKote on my dad's 585AHR they are building as I type this.
The weight is 13 lbs and if I had to do it over again, I would drop it to 10 1/2 - 11 pounds.

They build the stock so well, between it, the recoil pad and the muzzle brake, shooting it with full-power loads is really not a problem.

To say I am pleased would be an understatement - the proof is that I am having them build a couple more for me.

SAFARIKID and Bigdoggy each have multiple AHR-built rifles. These two guys clearly know their stuff and can have anything they want, but keep turning to Ed and Wayne for their expensive toys.

Good luck - I know you will be pleased with an AHR-built rifle in any caliber you decided upon.
Oh and they are nice guys and are actually hunters themselves.

Stay well,
Paul

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
Hey you 600erers. I had sent an e-mail request a while back to Barnes to ask them the possibility of them making a TSX style bullet for the 600's since they are already doing the Banded Solid and the response i just got was:
"Hi Joe,

Thanks for the great suggestion. I'm happy to file a formal request on your behalf.

So we'll see. With all you guys's great designs and maybe more from them big guys, the 600 caliber is getting to be really fun to load for compared to just a few years ago

There can never be too many choices when it comes to bullets !

Way to go, Joe!

Paul

Dave -you can get a .600Ok for the same price as a .450 Dakota. You can load down to whatever power level you like and UP for more fun. There is nothing like the biggest bore sizes to put a smile on your face. -Rob

Paul:

Thanks for you help!

Rob, I probably will stick with the .450 Dakota for now as I just acquired all the brass and dies. That 600 sure does look like fun though...

I am going to do a search to find out a bit more about the cartridge here on our board, the parent case, actual bullet diameter, etc.

Dave

Dave- Thats easy. The parent case I designed from .585 Nyati full length brass and the actual bullet diameter is .620. Brass is now available from AHR and Jamison. I made the original cases on my lathe. There are at least 50 of these guns out there and it has proven itself to be incredibly versitile and not the monster everyone thinks it is. You will love it and it just keeps getting better with more and more bullets available.-Rob

Hi Rob, who made/makes your reamers? If a canuck or two gets the itch, a reamer will make it easier for us "border stranded" canucks.

Canuck seems to be going up in diameter so one never knows. Maybe he'll lead the charge over .510!!

Dave Kiff made the original reamer and I still have it. AHR used toborrow it but they since have had their own made. -Rob

Rob:

I just came across your post on Gunbroker with respect to this cartridge. A .600 NE cartridge with the rim removed, a belt added for headspacing, and reduced to 3 inches in length. Now I understand. 10,000 foot pounds of muzzle energy! Holy crap!

Dave

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Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Rob:
10,000 foot pounds of muzzle energy! Holy crap!

Dave

That's not even a "warm" load

Dave- Yup CCMDoc and other have pushed 10000ft-lbs way higher. Remember this case was designed for 65KPSI not the 39KPSI of a .600NE. The gun was designed for max horsepower with everything we know about how to minimize recoil built in. It flat works, and AHR can build them and deliver one on a reliable schedule. Read all the horror stories about gunsmiths and way less cool cartridges. Not one of the .600OK clan has ever complained! That in itself is a fantastic accomplishment as these guys are not amateurs. Almost to a man the most experienced riflemen on AR! Really consider Getting one, you'll like it.-Rob

Hi Rob, long time no post.

Here's a pic of the 600 taking down a dangerous water filled 55qt cooler.

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Originally posted by GeorgeInNePa:



Hi Rob, long time no post.

Here's a pic of the 600 taking down a dangerous water filled 55qt cooler.

Can't believe you let it ge so close!
I'm only brave enough to do that with charging pumkins.

GeorgeinPA good to hear from you! You should try that with a 730gr going 2700fps. The destruction is even more impressive.
-Rob

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Originally posted by GeorgeInNePa:



Hi Rob, long time no post.

Here's a pic of the 600 taking down a dangerous water filled 55qt cooler.

Can't believe you let it ge so close!
I'm only brave enough to do that with charging pumkins.

You gotta love those action shots
Rob---keep us up on those cool bullets

Add another .600OK to the list!

I got my AHR barrelled Enfield into fireable condition and took it to the range this weekend.

Tried a series of 160 and 170grains of IMR7828 and 150, 160, and 165 of H4831 under 900grain Woodleigh SPs. In my 11 1/2lb X-braked rifle, recoil wasn't nearly as bad as I'd expected.

Velocity was right at 2000fps for the heavier charges.

From my searches, it appears 4350 or H414 are the powders of choice.

Any advice on other choice loads I should look into? Got some Beartooth 1040grain cast bullets headed this way and will turn out a paper patch mold in the next few weeks.

ROB - Thanks for leading the way

Spent the day putting holes in a tree - just about to come down due to .620 diameter holes - might be termites!

H414 is a good choice. I have had good luck with W760 and W748 as well as those you have already tried.

Have fun

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
Come on guys---give the the guy something to drule over. Remember when we waited for our. Everybody likes pictures. The most unique I've seen is Biggdoggy's Grey Ghost. I liked Safari's so well, I used it as my pattern:

Overkill, I sent you a PM.

Dave

More .600 OK action

http://s79.photobucket.com/alb...current=MVI_1488.flv

The load is a sedate 1800fps/880grain paper patch over 155grains IMR7828. Even so, they're a bit over driven as they only penetrated about 24"and while expanding out to 1 1/4" - 1 1/2" diameter.

Why are you shooting such a light load?-Rob

Rob, I haven't had enough time with the rifle in working condition to try out a lot of loads and was in a hurry to try some bubble gum soft paper patched bullets on some piggies. When I started the project, I'd searched for loads and bought a bunch of 7828 before realizing 4350 is the powder of choice. 155grains of 7828 is slightly compressed under the smooth sided conical 880grainer and any more powder compression starts to distort the bullet in the seater.

I'm getting a little bit of leading at the muzzle so I have to play with the load - different alloys, powders, and patches. The current patches are one layer of plain paper adhesive label. I'm going to try some of the newer plastic masking tapes next.

I've run the rifle (24" PacNor barrel installed by AHR on an Enfield) up to 2200fps with 900grain Woodleighs using 4064. I also have a pile of SAE360 round stock to turn out a mess of mono solids this winter. So far, especially with Wayne's help, things are coming along well with this rifle.

I'm on the road until mid-January and will try to post more pics then.

Tom and the rest of the .600 Club, Hail, Hail the .600!!

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Originally posted by PWS:
More .600 OK action

did you hit the piggie?

I am using 145 Varget under 900s and get over 2100 from my 16" barrel(but thats in Colorado at 5000' elevation)...I loaded some with 150 Varget,but havnt tried them yet....

Jeffe - sure did!

I cannot tell a lie... I missed the first shot.

But, I nailed it the second with a raking shot up the left flank. That's the bullet on the right above. It penetrated up into the right lung to lodge just outside of the ribcage. The hog ran off and kegged up under a juniper. I shot her again on the nose and the bullet (one on left above) ended up down in her brisket.

Rob is right. Beer can diameter holes. All I had to do was cook it if I wanted headcheese.

I think the bullet needs to be a little harder or slower as I'm sure a harder slug would whistle right through any angle.

Cannot go wrong with AHR!!!