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I just wanted to get some opinions on the rifles made by AHR (American Hunting Rifles) pertaining to their quality, dependability, and overall owner satisfaction. If I do purchase one, it will almost definately be a .600 Overkill and will probably be late 2009-2010 before I'll be able to shell out that kind of cash for a rifle. This is a BIG PURCHASE for a blue collar guy like me, so I want to make sure I'm getting my dollar's worth!  | ||
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I've no experience with AHR but have talked to Wayne on the phone and looking to having them barrel my Montana PH in 600 OK when it comes in. Rodney. | |||
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I was hoping to have my .500 A2/CZ 550 project finished by the end of September (2008) but it'll probably be closer to Christmas time. The .500 A2 is going to be a no-frills synthetic stocked rifle with a 22" barrel, XS ghost ring sights, and Leupold 2.5X scout scope. It will be my anywhere/anything go-to rifle that will serve as a hunter and a stopper. I will always try to take care of it but I expect it will get banged up a little and maybe some rust here and there....a real working rifle. Everybody needs at least one rifle like this. I also want a big bore that's a real beauty. I want it's caliber to be as impressive as the rifle itself. After my .500 A2, I want to go up just one more big step in caliber before I return to my senses and start investing my money or something crazy like that! I want to do it while I've still got the nerve to do it! I like the .550 Magnum but since I'm already getting the .500 A2 I want to go a bit further up the big bore scale on this next project. I've really got bitten by the big bore bug in the last couple of years but have long been an admirer of big bores. I've always wanted a big bore rifle that's as much a work of art as it was powerful and figured that one day I'd own one. Since I've always held the Ruger No.1 in high regard, I felt that my ultimate big bore beauty would be a No.1 in .577 Nitro or maybe the .600 JDJ, with gorgeous walnut and tasteful engraving. However, since first seeing AHR's site (maybe a year ago?) that decision isn't so clear. (Also, I'm not sure I would want to subject myself to the recoil of a No.1 in these calibers, since my .458 Lott No.1 is pretty severe. I could handle it in a CZ with a good pad and 13-14 pounds of weight but the No.1 is rough!).......Basically, I just want to know if the AHR rifles shoot and function as good as they look......OR......am I better off getting a Ruger No.1 in .577 Nitro or .600 JDJ? I'll probably hunt with the rifle some but mainly it would be for show and to shoot sometimes. I more than likely would use it if I get a chance at an ele, IF I could legally carry it to Africa when that time arrives, being that it's over .50 caliber.  My first project is still the .500 A2, then a "long .50" on my BFR .500 S&W(.500 Super, .50 AK, .500 Martin,etc...undecided?) and then I'll save up for my ultimate big bore rifle. I really would appreciate some input on this from some of my AR brethren that are experienced with AMERICAN HUNTING RIFLES' products, big bore Ruger No.1's, the .600 OK cartridge and other over .50 cal rifles like the .577 Nitro and .600 JDJ. BTW, can the Ruger No.1 chamber the .600 OK? Thanks to all!!!!  | |||
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srshooter, i don't own a rifle from AHR but i've seen a few and shot the 600 OK. I can say that you won't be dissapointed in your purchase. It's a great rifle. The fit and finish is fantastic. Everything is first class!! The recoil from the 600 i shot felt HEAVY but managable   " If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand which feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countryman " Samuel Adams, 1772 | |||
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Yup, big investment but well worth it. When I was a roofer, I would have sold everything I had to buy one of these - quality and workmanship are superb. As far as reliability, look for posts by SAFARIKID - who has taken his AHR-bulit rifles to Africa many times, 600 Overkill - who used his in the upper peninsula of MI for giant boars as well as posts by Bigdoggy 700 and trophyhunter 5000. All of these folk have extensive experience with the rifles and the caliber. Of course, Robgunbuilder, the inventor of the 600 Overkill has tremendous experience with the caliber and has known Ed Plummer for a while, so he is yet another resource. Search the site - all of your questions willb e answered there. Good luck. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Everything Doc said and a little vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De8QIMsi6dE | |||
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SAFARIKID HERE...I have had them build me 2)600's and one 700! "Magnifico"! is one way of putting it.Wayne and Ed are GREAT guys and gunsmiths and know their "stuff" for sure.My rifles are both functional and beautiful! They have built many more since my 3 and I am sure they are just getting better and better if thats possible.They will build them standard,or as you like.I love the .600 OK and it is deadly!It is a great "all around" caliber,as I have shot turtles to buffalo with it!Call them up and get one ordered & tell them Tom sent ya!  "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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Come on guys---give the the guy something to drule over. Remember when we waited for our. Everybody likes pictures.  The most unique I've seen is Biggdoggy's Grey Ghost. I liked Safari's so well, I used it as my pattern:   | |||
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600 -- that really is a beautiful rifle and a gorgeous piece of wood!  "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Thanks Whitworth---it was definitely worth the wait.  | |||
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You have chosen WISELY grasshopper. AHR is a great company and above all RELIABLE. The guns are RELIABLE. The caliber is RELIABLE and its probably the best designed, MOST FLEXIBLE and COOLEST real BIG BORE in existance. It just gets going where the .577 T-Rex runs out of steam. I am not HUMBLE I just know what works and what doesn't. Stay tuned for major advancements in Bullet design and performance for the .600OK in the near future. No one who has built or fired one has ever been disappointed. I'm always available to help you if you need me too. I would not try a .600Ok on a Ruger No.1. It probably could be made to work, but in the end it will cost more money than a bolt gun and be inferior. This cartridge was designed specifically for the CZ550 and larger bolt actions. The whole Pkg, action barrel, stock design was based on everything I've learned in 35 yrs of Big Bore building and shooting to work together as a Pkg. Notice, I never built one on a Ruger No. 1. There is a reason.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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I own the 600 overkill on there web page and both of the 700 AHR's shown on their 700 page. I also have another 600 overkill of theirs. Needless to say, I have to echo The KIDS sentiments. Ahr is great to work with. They will work to make everything right and keep you happy. Very good people! | |||
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A friend has 5 of ther guns, biggest 458 Lott. They all shoot great and very good workmanship. I like them better than Dakota and some other top end rifles. I am having a 458 Lott or 450 Rigby built now/ | |||
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Here is mine and a variety of bullets for it:    NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Thanks for all the great info guys! Beautiful pics too! I'll probably go with AHR when I get set to tackle this SUPER BIG BORE PROJECT. Like I said, first I'm definately going to finish up on this .500 A2 thing by X-MAS and then I'll scratch my BFR "SUPER .50" itch if it's feasable. If the possible BFR conversion doesn't work out the way I want, then the .600 OK will be my second project instead of the third. Depending on how things go I hope to have a .600 OK by AHR late in 2009 or early in 2010. I haven't ruled out a Ruger No.1 in .577 Nitro or .600 JDJ but the AHR is a bit more attractive to me right now. I'd like to shoot and handle both before choosing but that seems unlikely. If everything goes REALLY WELL, I might get the AHR .600 OK in 2009 AND a No.1 chambered for another BIG BORE in 2010. If I get the AHR in .600 OK first, I'd probably do the Ruger No.1 in .577 Nitro as I wouldn't need a JDJ if I've already got a .600 OK. Please keep sending me pics and info, PLEASE! BTW, what kind of ballistics can I expect from the .600 JDJ and .577 Nitro in a strong action like the Ruger No.1? To those who own both, how does penetration compare with the .500 A2(600 gr brass/bronze solids at 2400 fps) and .600 OK(900 gr brass/bronze solids at 2400 fps)? I know they both give a shooter more than he'll ever need but I'm just curious. Like I previously posted my .500 A2 is to be my primary dg rifle and about as heavy as I would care to carry on a regular basis. I just want the AHR .600 OK to have the biggest, baddest stomper around as well as being the envy of any big bore shooter that I'm likely to meet. No matter what, I still see a decked out monster of a Ruger No.1 in my future though. It's a beautiful and very classy design. Come on fellas....pics, kills, and stories on both the AHR .600 OK and BIGBOY Ruger No.1's!!!! | |||
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The 600Ok with 900 gr flat point solids with out penetrate the 500a2 by a enourmous margin. More so vs a 577 NE or.600 JDJ. I know as I've actually compared all of them. with a 730 gr flat point the .600Ok can hit 2750fps and still be controlable. Do yourself a favor and dont waste your time with a Ruger no.1. Assuming you can find a gunsmith who can REALLY make one work in a timeframe consistent with your lifetime, in the end you will not be able to handle anything near full power loads due to the poor recoil characteristics of the gun and will sell it on Gunbroker to some other unsuspecting and ill informed victim. Shot once, dropped once, sold once is the rule for these things. My solid advice is talk to AHR, spend the money and do it right. You will never be disappointed as all these guys can attest. You'll finf I'm right in the end and you'll be money ahead with minimized frustration..=Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Thanks Rob! AHR .600 OK coming to a dealer near me in 2010!!!!!! That's a little surprising that the .600 OK with 900 gr solids would penetrate that much more than the .500 A2 with 600 gr solids....when both are going about the same speed since they both have similar SD's. Do you think twist has something to do with it?  Seriously, I would expect a larger wound channel and MAYBE a little more penetration but an "enourmous margin" is surprising indeed. I always thought the best penetrators were calibers between the big 40's and the big 50's with the .585's and .620's lagging in that department and I've read about the .500 A2 with the 600 gr. a-square mono factory load giving full length penetration on elephants. Please don't misunderstand, I'm not disagreeing I'm just a bit surprised. You should know as you have shot both of them plenty and you created the .600 OK. Just to give me an idea of the prowess of the .600 OK, help me out with the following scenerio: the .600 OK with 900 gr brass solids @ 2400 fps penetrates 6 feet of an oak log........how far does a .510" 600 gr brass solid @ 2400 fps penetrate into the same log when both bullets are of the same exact design? I'm just trying to get an idea of what I'm dealing with here. I mean, how can you explain such a huge difference between the two? This .600 OK is a monster! I can't even imagine some of Ed Hubel's stuff!  | |||
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Agree. I also doubt "enormous margin".. But I have no firsthand experience with the 500 A Square so I cant tell. Also the quote that it "takes over where he 577 T-Rex run out of steam.." My experiences are: We have shot with my friends Heym 600 NE (similar to Saeeds) with Barnes FN solids (900 grs) at 2325 f/s and also with Barnes 750 grs FN solids in my 577 Tyrannosaur at 2580 f/s. Similar bullets and fact is that the 577 penetrates around 15-20 % better (average of 6 shot with each) Have also tried the 800 grs FN solid bullets from GS Custom and 800 grs FN solids from Lutz Moeller (Germany based - see http://www.lima-wiederladetechnik.de/ )in the 577 Tyrannosaur. Loaded to 2460 f/s, they penetrated even better than all the other loads tried and around 30 % better than the 900 grs Barnes FN solid at 2325 f/s in the .600 | |||
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My experience with the .600Ok with 900gr FN solids(at 2400fps) is that in solid OAK it went through 6ft, straight as possible and drove into the backstop another ft or so. I OWN a .600NE Heym and at its top loading you will get maybe 4ft of penetratration. YOU cannot shoot a .600NE HEYM at anywhere near the top load of a .600OK as YOU cannot handle the recoil. NEITHER can anyone else here. PERIOD! Its not just SD that delivers penetration its also MVsquared. My .500a2 while a very nice gun with scaled down 550gr FN bullets ( identical shape to the 900's will do about 5 ft in the same medium at about the same velocity maybe more. With 750gr bullets you can easily do 2750fps. I would like to see a t-REX DO THAT. iN ANY EVENT WE ARE NOT KILLING OAK LOGS AND YOU WILL NOT BE UNIMPRESSED WITH THE .600Ok. Have fun and if you need any advice or help feel free to call.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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I think that 800 gr would be perfect for the .585 cal cartridges. I know 750 will do the job but they are just a bit low on sectional density. I'll bet the t-rex is awesome with 800 grainers!! Without doing the math, I'd think that a .585" with 800 grainers is about equal in SD with .510"/600 gr and .620"/900 gr.....all about .330 SD I think. I plan on making my own bullets(brass fp solids) to try in my .500 A2. I want to make some 600, 650, and 700 gr to see for myself how big a factor SD is when comparing for penetration. I'll probably try the 600@ 2400 fps, 650 @ 2300 and the big 700 grainers at about 2200 or so. Then I'll try them all at different speeds. I think a .500 A2 shooting a 650 grain fp brass solid at 2300 fps might make for the perfect stopper of buff, rhino, hippo, and elephant....at least for me. I believe it will hit like a mack truck and ALWAYS leave an exit wound. I think it may represent the most power and penetration possible in a rifle that I can carry, shoot and reload quickly. If and when I do a .600 OK, it will weigh AT LEAST 13 pounds completely naked while the .500 A2 can go as light as 10-10.5 pounds naked(I think RIP's .510 JAB is about that weight) and remain somewhat tolerable. However, I'm definately NOT trying to say that the .500 A2 is in the same "DESTRUCTIVE DEVICE" category as the .600 OK and the .577 T-Rex. I just think it's more than plenty for anything that walks and IMO is a more practical hunting rifle for most large/dangerous game hunting situations....especially if you are the one who has to carry it! All that is beside the point though. The .577 T-Rex and .600 OK are not all about practicality. As far as that goes, the .500's aren't the most practical big bores either. The REAL BIG BORES ARE ABOUT STOMPING POWER AND KICKING ASS!! If it was all about being practical, we'd all have a .22, a .30-06, and a .375 H&H and maybe a .458 if you do a lot of African dg hunting. God Bless guys like J.D. JONES, ROBGUNBUILDER, HUBEL, JEFFEOSSO, SAFARIKID, and many others who build big bores or inspire others to do so. All you guys bring out the TIM "TOOL MAN" TAYLOR in me!! MORE POWER......I MUST HAVE MORE POWER!!!!!!!  It's funny, when I first joined AR, I was just getting the itch for a big 50 caliber hunting rifle and began the planning/building process for a .500 A-Square rifle based on a CZ 550 Safari Magnum action. That was going to be my "HAMMER OF THOR" so to speak. After talking guns here for a few months, the .500 A2 doesn't seem that big at all! Compared to some of the rifles you guys hunt with, it might as well be a .338 win or .35 whelen! I haven't even got my .500 A2 in my hands yet and I'm already trying to find a way to "budget in" a high-dollar full custom deluxe version that dinosaur slaying howitzer known as the .600 Overkill!!!  After that I'll be "NEEDING" a 12 GaFH I guess!  Guys at the range freak out when me and my shooting buddy show up with our .458 Lotts, 460 Wby and .500 S&W revolvers. I can't wait until they see my .500 A2.........and then.....an AHR .600 Overkill? Hell, they might elect me Mayor after that!! I'd like to see some more pics of any .600 OK's out there, or any other over 50 cal monster mashers you guys care to show. They help me keep the dream alive! | |||
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Thanks Rob. You've been helpful as always. I'm sure I will be more than impressed with the .600 Overkill. This project is at least a year away though plus whatever the turn-around-time for these rifles is at AHR. I also want to thank you, as well as RIP and others too, for your input and help in getting my CZ 550 .500 A2 project ball rolling and I expect to have it by Christmas! I'm sure the .500 A2 will tide me over 'til I can get that DINO-BLASTIN' AHR .600 OK though. Why did A-Square drop their 707 gr .500 A2 load? Can't find the bullets either. I did a Google search and got nothing from that either. Wierd! I'll bet that big .510" 707 grain bronze mono-solid would plow thdamn near anything too! I wish someone would make a good brass/bronze .510" fp solid of AT LEAST 600 grains. All the 600 grainers are round nose. The 570 grain is ok but I'd really like to see one over 600. Somewhere from 650-700 gr would be great but nobody is making them. The only way is to cut the point off of .50 BMG bullets but they probably wouldn't be over 570 gr then. That's why I plan to turn my own out of brass and see what they'll do. I may turn some for some of my other big bore rifles an d revolvers too. I want to find the optimum weight and design for each one. | |||
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Thanks CCMDoc and 600 Overkill for the pics. Absolutely beautiful! FIRST CLASS & GRADE AAA ALL THE WAY!!!!! | |||
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Nothing scientific here... Just having some fun with my Overkill... Five gallon jugs at around twenty paces... 900 grainers at around 2150 -- 2200...  ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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I imagine that exploding bucket of water is probably representative of the kind of blood trail you get from the animals you've shot with the .600 OK too! That is, ....IF....you've ever actually had to follow up on anything after it was hit by that monster!  | |||
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I haven’t “blooded†mine yet… Though the destructive capabilities of this cartridge on inanimate objects just have to be seen to be believed… Planning a Buff hunt for 09 so all my hunting money is pretty much tied up for now….otherwise I’d like to be shooting some big boars with my big bore like “600 Overkill†did up in MI… Mine is an AHR I purchased from SAFARI KID. He likes em on the light side so I sent it back to Wayne and had him add some weight, a quarter rib scope, and an X-Brake… My rifle feeds, functions, and ejects with 100% reliability…. AHR is a first class operation… Matt V. ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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Beer Can sized holes with Woodleigh Soft points. Have to be seen to be believed. For sheer excess only the 12GaFH beats it.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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and don't forget the youtube video of the 600OK vs. watermellon Was upstate NY again last Sunday having more fun with the Kodiak 900gr softs, Barnes 900gr Banded Solids and Rob's 730gr drill-bits. Still trying to find enough trees to line up to stop the BBS or Rob's hole puncher - they just keep going and going and going ... One other thing about AHR's rifles. I decided to see how quickly I could accurately fire three 600 Overkills - a load that pushed 900gr BBS at 2,235fps over the Oehler 35P. I was expecting a long time-to-recovery and was surprised how quickly I got them off and that all three were on the 1 1/2" green "dot" I was using as a target at 25 yards. I should have captured this on video so I could time it, but was rushed to get back on the road and didn't set it up. This can only be a testament to proper rifle build and the care with which Wayne and Ed put these things together. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Hey Paul, How about expansion with those Kodiaks? I've been meaning to test them for penetration & expansion some more but haven't had time. Have you recovered any to show? Joe | |||
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One more thing ... I know many here bash the varrious gun magazines out there. Well, I have and will continue to read them. Please, before I hear all of the reasons why these things aren't "real" - I review and referee manuscripts for major journals and really don't care too much how "accurate" or "real" these mags portray things - they are my escape into the hunting world I imagine. Anyway, I decided to write the following to the editor-in-chief of Shooting Times with the hope that the BIG big bores will get some face time: Good Afternoon Mr. Nischalke, I am certain that you receive many suggestions such as the one I am about to offer, but in my nearly 40 years of reading ST I can’t recall reading about big bores. I know, you are smirking with incredulity – Shooting Times certainly has had feature articles on big-bore rifles and game they are used in taking, but please let me explain. In dogs, there are large breeds, then there are the giant breeds (mastiffs, etc – I have a couple of them and their poop is bigger than my French Bulldog) In deer, there are big deer then there are elk and moose. With pickup trucks, there’s the Ford F350 then there is the Terex Titan In the big bore world, there is everything else and then there are the rifles built by American Hunting Rifles (AHR). Ed Plummer is the founder; Wayne Jacobson is the owner and they build rifles which fire cartridges such as the 600 Overkill (a product of the fertile mind of Dr. Robert Garnick which launches a 900gr, .620†bullet at 2,400fps from a belted, 3.00†long case of 213gr water capacity), .585 AHR (same case necked down to .585 diameter with a 201gr water capacity) and their behemoth 700AHR. They build them with exquisite precision, to your specifications on either a CZ or Granite Mountain action and are to rifles what Rolex is to watches – unmatched beauty, precision and durability. I do not work for Wayne or Ed; just a very happy customer with plans of using his recently acquired 600OK on a big boar hunt in October of 2008 and for Cape Buffalo in 2009. I have a .585AHR on order as an early 70th birthday present for my father and will be having a third built on an as-yet to be developed cartridge. There are quite a few who have used their AHR-built 600 Overkills and 700AHR to take both American and African big and dangerous game – their names, descriptions of their hunts and photos of game taken are scattered throughout various internet websites devoted to Big Bores and African Game. If you were interested in hearing directly from them, I am sure some would be persuaded to share their experiences and photos first hand. I will close by saying I continue to enjoy Shooting Times (one of my favorite covers being the green one featuring the then new S&W Model 629). Given the growing interest in these biggest of big bores, I humbly suggest you and your colleagues consider contacting Ed and Wayne to share their story with your readership much as you have done with other custom shops and recently with barrel makers. Sincerely Paul C. Yodice NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Hi Joe, I have been using some might big trees as my back-stop and they are buried somewhere within. The good news is that the Barnes Banded Solids and Rob's 730s have punched so many holes through it that It wont be long before the tree is down making bullet recovery all the more easily done NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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I want to do a water test similar to the one in the video above that used the Woodleigh's to see if they open as much     | |||
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I am hoping that when I get the camping crew together (about 10 cousins and nephews ranging in age from 9 to 24 + my brother, father and a few other "adults") we will be able to haul enough supplies up the mountain to do exactly that. If done, you can be sure that there will be photos and video of the exciting event. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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OK, here is how I take an outdoor shower on hot summer days. 1. Line up 5 to 6 milk jugs full of water. 2. Shoot with 600 OK 3. Lather up 4. Repeat nos. one and two for rinse.  | |||
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I will post some 600 and 700 pics when I return home Friday "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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I'm in the process of putting together a .600OK with Wayne's help and I have nothing but the highest praise for his service. You can count me among the AHR supporters!! | |||
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Well - I can handle 2325 f/s in the Heym. Not much difference up to 2400 f/s which is max with the 600 OK..... And I can just see with my own eyes that the 577 penetrates somewhat better both wih 750 grs and 800 grs bullets. So I beleive the 577 T Rex is the better penetrator, but the 600 is still awesome and more than enoug, and that is the important part in practical life. And no the 577 T Rex cannot do 2750 f/s with at 750 grs bullet. But a 750 grs bullet is not idesl in a .620" rifle because of low SD so I do not see the practical point in this bulletweight in the 600 OK | |||
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Joe… I've been meaning to do the same thing... I've even got the loads worked up and sitting on a shelf in my shop... I guess we all know that the Woodleighs open up relatively fast so I was just going to compare the Kodiaks at different velocities...(2000 to 2200 fps)... Just need to gather up some receptacles... On another note I'd like to swap some load data with you some time... I'm pretty sure you have the same bbl length as me...20" Have you noticed any velocity variations when loading the Kodiaks versus the Weldcores? Matt V. ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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Matt, I haven't run my Kodiaks through the chony yet so I can't say yet. I'm hoping to get to the range in the next few weeks. Yes, like you I have a 20' bbl. I want to push them to around 2200-2300 with H-4350 if possible and see if they expand in soft tissue. I want them to open up but not as rapid as the Woodleighs. I do have a reduced-recoil load using Varget for 1900-2000 fps. This is the load I will use on boars and small stuff instead of my H-4350 load @ 2200 as I can easily shoot without the brake which cuts weight and noise. The damage done by those Woodleighs at that speed is unbelievable and recoil is fairly light. Without the brake, that 20" 8lb rifle is a dream to carry & shoot. I carry it in the assault position with a 6' sling and it just snaps into position like a big hangun only much more authoritative | |||
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Buffalo- Pse post pics of your shooting a Heym .600NE and a print out with datestamp on it with your Chrono data at 2325 fps pse. Picture and date stamp must match of course. I'm sure we all would like to see that . Pse include pics of the Heym barrel markings so that we can verify it is a Heym .600NE. Most folks here probably have never seen one and you would help educate all of us.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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