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West Coast DRSS and Big Bore Association Hoot and Shoot
04 May 2010, 05:06
boom stickWest Coast DRSS and Big Bore Association Hoot and Shoot
Was seeing if Rigby might want to attend the meeting. Craig Boddington I think lives in that area... he might want to come.
04 May 2010, 09:13
Mike_DettorreWell...I am in if its within 3 hours of SF
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
04 May 2010, 09:20
boom stick3.5 hours... that is what my gps says but that usually means 3 hours.
It would be great for those in LA and the Bay Area to carpool to make it more enjoyable and less expensive.
06 May 2010, 11:21
Kyler HamannDarn, that's in my backyard but I've had that weekend booked to out of town clients for quite a while. Too bad, it would have been fun to blow the dust off a couple rifles.
Kyler
18 May 2010, 07:24
Mike_DettorreFolks,
We are tyring to work up different scenarios for the course of fire.
It would be helpful to know who is coming and what they are all bring as far as rifle type:
Bolt, SxS, o/u, and lever as well as caliber.
Please post a reply
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
18 May 2010, 08:07
GrenadierSo is there a real West Coast DR Society? How would one join? Can I participate in the shoot?
SxS DR; Falling Block Singles; 12 bore Paradox
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18 May 2010, 08:45
BigChev4x4I would really like to attend. I don't have a double but could bring a .416 Rigby and a .375 H&H bolt action. Please let me know more details.
Greg
18 May 2010, 10:10
boom stickquote:
Originally posted by Grenadier:
So is there a real West Coast DR Society? How would one join? Can I participate in the shoot?
SxS DR; Falling Block Singles; 12 bore Paradox
The DRSS is in its infancy. You can do a search here to get the low down.
Yes! please come and enjoy hanging out with like minded big bore nuts.
18 May 2010, 10:11
boom stickquote:
Originally posted by BigChev4x4:
I would really like to attend. I don't have a double but could bring a .416 Rigby and a .375 H&H bolt action. Please let me know more details.
Greg
Big bores are big bores be it double or bolt or lever or single shot. Bring em with lots of ammo!
18 May 2010, 10:12
boom stickThanks Mike for lending your great depth of experience to this
18 May 2010, 12:12
Mike Brooksquote:
Originally posted by Grenadier:
So is there a real West Coast DR Society? How would one join? Can I participate in the shoot?
SxS DR; Falling Block Singles; 12 bore Paradox
Don't listen to this upstart.. The real DRSS West Coast has already had several shoots this year! But it's not these southeast wanna be's
.. It's up here on the real west coast. Alaska
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18 May 2010, 12:33
boom stickDon't be a hater Mr Brooks
The lower 48 WCDRSS BBA might be new but we outnumber you
18 May 2010, 21:03
BlacktailerSo as Mike said, Who's coming?
The shoot will be in the Santa Lucia mountains just west of Paso Robles. It's about 3 hours drive down 101 from San Jose, about 3 1/2 hours drive from LA up THE 5 then west on THE 46.
It will be on my place so we are talking VERY casual. No wanna be Marine Drill Sgt range masters. Dust off those big bores.
Have gun- Will travel
The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark
18 May 2010, 22:36
Idaho SharpshooterIn the tradition of the Houston Hoot-n-Shoots, just a little fun and an extended BS session.
My .470 and I will be there.
Rich
DRSS
18 May 2010, 22:37
SevenxbjtI will try to make it. Going to disguise this to the wife as a trip for us to my folks condo in Pismo. Very busy that time of year but if I can make it I'll bring a Blaser R93 in 375.
19 May 2010, 01:58
Mike Brooksquote:
Originally posted by boom stick:
Don't be a hater Mr Brooks
The lower 48 WCDRSS BBA might be new but we outnumber you
Hardly a hater Boomy! Just a Razzer!
And as far as the numbers.. Big deal! It quality over quanity anyday!
I hope you guys have as much fun as we do!
NRA Life
ASSRA Life
DRSS
Today's Quote:
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
20 May 2010, 07:15
Mike_DettorreI will do everyhting I can to get there...
I am not sure what I will bring...
376 Steyr
18x70mm
375hh
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
21 May 2010, 22:43
Idaho SharpshooterThis is going to be fun! I think we should franchise it.
Rich
DRSS
21 May 2010, 23:18
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
This is going to be fun! I think we should franchise it.
Rich
DRSS
You are right .. please sumbit franchise payment .....
22 May 2010, 02:50
Mike BrooksWill you take an IOU?
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22 May 2010, 03:50
Idaho SharpshooterIOU sounds good to me; I'd much rather owe it to you than try and beat you out of it!
Rich
DRSS
22 May 2010, 04:02
boom stickLooks like we might be blessed with some ultra cool B&M rifles to shoot and ogle.
All franchise fees should be smiles, good times and lots of lead in the air!
22 May 2010, 04:21
LionHunterMy Sabatti 500 NE arrived yesterday. I was looking forward to bringing it to the shoot for comments and evaluation. And I am really bummed that I will be in Alaska on the date of the DRSS West Coast meet.
BTW, it looks very nice with upgraded figured walnut, hand checkering and Oak Leaf & Acorn engraving.
Mike
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22 May 2010, 04:35
boom stickWell maybe the next one for you.
Please post pics of this beauty
22 May 2010, 08:51
BlacktailerHey Lion Hunter,
Just let Mike pick it up on the way down and we'll put it through it's paces for you.
Have gun- Will travel
The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark
22 May 2010, 11:47
boom stickAnd throw in 200 rounds to make it worth our while
quote:
Originally posted by Blacktailer:
Hey Lion Hunter,
Just let Mike pick it up on the way down and we'll put it through it's paces for you.
23 May 2010, 05:23
Mike Brooks[QUOTE]Originally posted by LionHunter:
And I am really bummed that I will be in Alaska on the date of the DRSS West Coast meet.
QUOTE]
Drag it up with you and bring lot'sa ammo! We'll be happy to help break it in..
NRA Life
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Today's Quote:
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
23 May 2010, 09:27
stradlingguess I will also come I can bring 5 or six doubles up to 577 but will need to know how much ammo to load for each what is the near airport for a 210
Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win----
23 May 2010, 09:42
boom stickquote:
Originally posted by stradling:
guess I will also come I can bring 5 or six doubles up to 577 but will need to know how much ammo to load for each what is the near airport for a 210
Will be great to have you. It would be great see the big doubles like the 577 there. When we get the shooting stations figured out we will know how much to tell people to bring for the course but as Kipling said you can never have enough red wine, books and ammo. I am sure others would want to shoot them if you are open. Once we know all the guns that will show people can buy ammo to shoot in others guns or pay to shoot ammo if so agreed so bring some extra bucks to compensate. One attendee is a future big bore owner but does not have any yet but would love to shoot if someone is open to letting them use their gun.
24 May 2010, 00:29
Blacktailerquote:
Originally posted by stradling:
guess I will also come I can bring 5 or six doubles up to 577 but will need to know how much ammo to load for each what is the near airport for a 210
Paso has a nice airport PRB. It's about 3 miles east of town off of hwy 46. That's where I keep my 182. We'll arrange ground transportation.
Have gun- Will travel
The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark
25 May 2010, 22:30
stradlingok landed there few years ago
will bring 470shooter if I can talk him in to it
he has 2 doubles as well
when we do this kind of a thing I like for folks to try there hand shooting the doubles
will bring
375 flange - 450 400 - 500 ne - 577 ne
could bring a 510 wells bolt action 458 lott
or wildcats in 425 express and 375 & 416 taylors also 375 40 deg imp if folks would like to shootem
may drag along the 378 416 460 weatherbys just for a few extra kicks
Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win----
26 May 2010, 02:55
Idaho SharpshooterSo, do I bring the 505 Gibbs or not?
Rich
DRSS
26 May 2010, 03:55
boom stickYes! And the 550 Gibs with whomper loads to have new inductees!
I am sure some there would love to feel what 200 lbs of recoil feels like
26 May 2010, 10:35
Teat HoundThis is not too far from me, but all I have is my little 375, nothing like the big doubles.
-eric
" . . . a gun is better worn and with bloom off---So is a saddle---People too by God." -EH
26 May 2010, 10:42
boom stickquote:
Originally posted by Teat Hound:
This is not too far from me, but all I have is my little 375, nothing like the big doubles.
Come! gun or no gun. There will be plenty of guns to shoot.
Boomie and Blacktailer my June work schedule still looks like I'm good for the 26th.
You mentioned a bar-be-que, what can I bring?
Frank
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27 May 2010, 10:21
boom stickGood to hear! Well I'll put a list together of needs once we have a good idea of the number of participants and let people volunteer for items or dishes to bring.
Hey Boomy,
This is what we got up to on the weekend. Started 4 years ago with the 458AccRel trio of me, Short&Fat and paz ... now its what we'd call a 'yippie shoot' with guns and shooting galore.
http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mVgWGMWNs0&feature=player_embedded
Cheers...
Con
31 May 2010, 15:29
Dago RedWow guys, this sounds like a real great get together. I'd love to come up, my work calendar I think is open enough that weekend, just gotta check with the commander when she gets up and make sure personal calendar is open.
I don't have anything on hand (416 taylor won't be done till next year) bigger than my 375, and it's bolt trash anyways, but if you guys want I can bring it. I'd just like to come meet everybody, stare at your sexy rifles, and have a good time. I like me some good drinks and cigars and bbq'n.
You gin drinkers ever try hendricks? it's my latest thing, i hate gin but this stuff is great, had a party a weekend or so ago and it was the first bottle empty. I also make what many consider to be a very fine bbq sauce.
is there camping in the area or we looking at motels?
Red
31 May 2010, 22:02
2kuduhunterWill this be a sat. only event or will their be something going on Sun.? 900 mile drive for us, will have to leave before dawn to get their in one day. Thanks, JS