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Trying for a 600 OK ... again
06 January 2008, 23:20
CCMDocTrying for a 600 OK ... again
Well,
I just sent Ed Plummer an email about building me a 600OK on a Granite Mountain action. A few years back, not long after the initial run were built, Ed did build me that dream rifle. As happens in life, other unfortunate events prevented me from taking possession though I had paid for the rifle, had a stash of Bridgers in two weights and space in my safe for it all. The pictures were beautiful and Ed sold it to someone whom I hope used it and had fun.
Well, a new position a new house in a new state and though I have a stable of new guns I feel the need for something bigger and badder than me (OK, most things and people already are both, but ...)
Just waiting to hear from Ed - who does great work from what I have seen and hopefully will see for myself.
Paul
NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003
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07 January 2008, 03:36
jeffeossogreat for you!
07 January 2008, 03:50
akrangeWas there ever a 45-70 AR
AK
07 January 2008, 03:51
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by CCMDoc:
Well,
I just sent Ed Plummer an email about building me a 600OK on a Granite Mountain action. A few years back, not long after the initial run were built, Ed did build me that dream rifle. As happens in life, other unfortunate events prevented me from taking possession though I had paid for the rifle, had a stash of Bridgers in two weights and space in my safe for it all. The pictures were beautiful and Ed sold it to someone whom I hope used it and had fun.
Well, a new position a new house in a new state and though I have a stable of new guns I feel the need for something bigger and badder than me (OK, most things and people already are both, but ...)
Just waiting to hear from Ed - who does great work from what I have seen and hopefully will see for myself.
Paul
Be sure to hook up with
RGB he invented it and can provide lots of loads.
07 January 2008, 03:55
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by akrange:
Was there ever a 45-70 AR
AK
Yep!!!07 January 2008, 03:57
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by akrange:
Was there ever a 45-70 AR
AK
45/70 nitro!
07 January 2008, 04:15
CCMDocquote:
.366torque wrote:
Be sure to hook up with RGB he invented it and can provide lots of loads.
Done. Will be looking through the posts here for reloading data as well.

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07 January 2008, 05:25
RobgunbuilderCCMDOC- PM me and I'll tell you everything you'll need to get going. You will have a ball with your .600OK. Don't believe the hype its a pussycat to shoot. When you've fired it for the first time, you tell em.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
07 January 2008, 07:00
CCMDocquote:
RObgunbuilder wrote:
CCMDOC- PM me and I'll tell you everything you'll need to get going. You will have a ball with your .600OK. Don't believe the hype its a pussycat to shoot. When you've fired it for the first time, you tell em.-Rob
PM x 2 sent
Thanks and looking forward to practicing on various produce before deer season.
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07 January 2008, 17:42
600 Overkillquote:
Originally posted by CCMDoc:
Well,
I just sent Ed Plummer an email about building me a 600OK on a Granite Mountain action. A few years back, not long after the initial run were built, Ed did build me that dream rifle. As happens in life, other unfortunate events prevented me from taking possession though I had paid for the rifle, had a stash of Bridgers in two weights and space in my safe for it all. The pictures were beautiful and Ed sold it to someone whom I hope used it and had fun.
Well, a new position a new house in a new state and though I have a stable of new guns I feel the need for something bigger and badder than me (OK, most things and people already are both, but ...)
Just waiting to hear from Ed - who does great work from what I have seen and hopefully will see for myself.
Paul
Welcome to the 600 club Paul. You will love it. Lots of good info from 600 shooters here. Tell us about what you're building, wood vs. syn stock, weight, bbl length, etc. My 12lb-20 incher is a beauty to care & shoot
08 January 2008, 03:25
CCMDocThat's one nice 600 Overkill !
In discussion with Ed Plummer as to barrel length and such. He is taking care of other business at the moment so will probably get to my build in a few weeks or so.
Very excited to get things under way. PMed Rob but no idea if they are getting through. Though I have "email notifications on" for this and other threads, I am not getting those either.
If anyone is trying to get through to me and not getting a resonse, try my email directly -
pyodice@sbhcs.com
or my alternate address
critcaredoc@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Paul
NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003
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08 January 2008, 06:29
CCMDocWell that seems to confirm it. Just got a bunch of notifications to my yahoo account and nothing to my sbhcs account - must be some sort of filter.
Guess I will need to change my primary email on my AR account.
Thanks,
Paul
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08 January 2008, 07:07
RobgunbuilderJust sent you a message. Give me a call.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
09 January 2008, 02:03
CCMDocquote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Just sent you a message. Give me a call.-Rob
Thanks for the info Rob - much appreciated.
Still struggling with the 22 1/2" barrel vs. the 26 decision. Ed sent me a picture of one of his latest 22 1/2" bbl beauties with a slimmed-down and angled forend with black tip - gorgeous.
If GeorgeinNE PA reads this - email me at either pyodice@sbhcs.com or critcaredoc@yahoo.com if you don't mind. I am in Northern NJ and would like to get together if you are interested. Can't seem to send PMs - it seems that there must be a firewall that prevents them from getting out - Rob never got any of mine.
Getting ever more exciting. Poor Catskill whitetail deer ...
NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003
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09 January 2008, 08:23
Idaho SharpshooterGo for it, I am still trying to figure out how to swing getting one built, although I am thinking it is time for RGB to build a REAL big bore. Hows about a .750 OK?
Rich
DRSS
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09 January 2008, 22:42
RobgunbuilderThere are always 10Ga brass cases avalable. Maybe Horneber would make high pressure rated ones .Modify the design to take a .50BMG primer and go for it.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
26 January 2008, 00:19
CCMDocHmmm, What's this mysterious box?
Ah Haa, Santa finally found me
Toys to play with
Should be nice when put together:
Hopefully only a few months away to rifle in hands.
Thanks Ed and Bitterroot !!!
NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003
Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow
26 January 2008, 01:56
600 Overkillquote:
Originally posted by CCMDoc:
Hmmm, What's this mysterios box?
Ah Haa, Santa finally found me
Toys to play with
Should be nice when put together:
Hopefully only a few months away to rifle in hands.
Thanks Ed and Bitterroot !!!
I remember that anxious feeling

You'll love it when you get it
26 January 2008, 04:24
Idaho SharpshooterRob,
you are killing me man. A 10-gauge DR...(insert drooling idiot here), would you go with paradox-style screw-in chokes, or take the plunge and get Krieger/McGowen to build a couple rifled barrels? I know a guy with one of those Richland Arms 10 gauge doubles (I sold it to him in '89), woneder who'd heat treat it and do the work...?
Rich
DRSS
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26 January 2008, 11:32
RobgunbuilderI'd go with rifled barrels. I'd just cut the shotgun tubes off in front of the block. Bore out each one and turn the barrels to fit. You can thread them or just solder them in place. Regulate and Re-use the original top and bottom ribs. Jeffe did something sinilar a few years ago and it worked out pretty well. I think he made a 550 flanged for it. A double 10Ga FH would be pretty cool in a double.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
26 January 2008, 20:39
Dave BushWill the .600 OK penetrate better than the 45-70?

Dave
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27 January 2008, 04:15
SAFARIKIDGeaux for it! I had AHR make me two of them and they Work!...Also,go for the shorter barrel,handles much better and the beast on the other end wont know the differnce,I promise! I had 19 and 20" barrels and love them.Sold one and may sell "Thor" next when my 700AHR comes in next week ("Maximus")...The AHR folks are GREAT people! Tom (Safarikid)
"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
22 February 2008, 23:09
CCMDocI hate when Christmas is delayed !!!

Just learned that the barrel supplier had a technical problem (rifling button broke) which has lead to a three week setback.

I just tell myself that "it's just a few extra weeks". Unfortunately for me that is like saying "the next rest area is only 3 miles away" - those three miles are the worst

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Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow
23 February 2008, 01:17
SAFARIKIDSame dang thing happened to me! They (Pac-Nor) needs to get some better tools!!Waiting Sucks!
"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
23 February 2008, 01:29
AtkinsonYou guys are perverts, only a sadist would shoot those things!

Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
23 February 2008, 02:08
CCMDocquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
You guys are perverts, only a sadist would shoot those things!
Noooo, a sadist is the guy who decides the float on one of the carbs in his '71 RoadRunner 440 SixPack needs adjusting even though the engine is running perfectly ...
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Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow
23 February 2008, 03:12
Fjoldquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
You guys are perverts, only a sadist would shoot those things!
A sadist gives it to his buddy to shoot. A masochist shoots it himself.
Frank
"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953
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23 February 2008, 03:14
600 Overkillquote:
Originally posted by Fjold:
quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
You guys are perverts, only a sadist would shoot those things!
A sadist gives it to his buddy to shoot. A masochist shoots it himself.

23 February 2008, 03:44
Idaho SharpshooterFjold,
thanks for clarifying that for me. If you shoot it, then hand it to your buddy and he shoots it: is that some sort of S&M thing?
Signing off to the sound of Annie Lennox singing "...sweet dreams are made of this...some of them want to abuse you, some of them want to be abused by you...".
Even with the butch haircut, that is one erotic looking woman!
Rich
DRSS
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23 February 2008, 03:47
600 Overkillquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Fjold,
thanks for clarifying that for me. If you shoot it, then hand it to your buddy and he shoots it: is that some sort of S&M thing?
Signing off to the sound of Annie Lennox singing "...sweet dreams are made of this...some of them want to abuse you, some of them want to be abused by you...".
Even with the butch haircut, that is one erotic looking woman!
Rich
DRSS
Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost...
I always loved Annies looks & music

23 February 2008, 05:21
Indlovusorry, wrong thread
23 February 2008, 06:33
SAFARIKIDquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
You guys are perverts, only a sadist would shoot those things!
Ok Ray...So what's yur pernt?!

"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
23 February 2008, 20:16
RobgunbuilderPac- Nor is a really good company and rifling buttons do break probably on a semi-regular basis. When they cut my 12GaFH barrel it took over 4 months and 12 tries. They sent me some of the broken buttons too. They really lost money on that deal but Chris never gave me lame excuses, just kept his quote and stuck with it. How many other companies do that?
I tend to be a loyalist. Those who treat me well get my buisness over and over. Those who treat me poorly get to see my ass disappearing into the distance. One of the reasons I do my own gunsmithing. -Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
24 February 2008, 03:52
SAFARIKIDI am glad you said that Rob,it is good to know! I am the same way....
"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
24 February 2008, 04:13
CCMDocquote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
When they cut my 12GaFH barrel it took over 4 months and 12 tries. They sent me some of the broken buttons too. They really lost money on that deal but Chris never gave me lame excuses, just kept his quote and stuck with it. How many other companies do that?
-Rob
The answer to your question is "Very few, anymore." When I was a roofer in the family business, that was our rule and practice. Like many family businesses, we relied on word of mouth and repeat customers. That meaant doing it right the first time and taking the lumps if the prices of materials went up after giving an estimate for the job.
I still want my 600 OK yesterday, though

NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003
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24 February 2008, 04:33
BitterrootBreaking the rifling buttons is more common than you think, especially in the very large calibers. Tremendous force is needed to pull them through the bore. Lots of surface area to overcome. Pac-nor broke three or four on our first order of six 700 AHR barrels. I'm sure they lost their shirt, but never said a word. They make an excellent barrel and stand behind their product.
24 February 2008, 04:39
CCMDocquote:
Originally posted by Bitterroot:
Breaking the rifling buttons is more common than you think, especially in the very large calibers. Tremendous force is needed to pull them through the bore. Lots of surface area to overcome. Pac-nor broke three or four on our first order of six 700 AHR barrels. I'm sure they lost their shirt, but never said a word. They make an excellent barrel and stand behind their product.
That's why I agree with Rob and with you - that sort of customer support demonstrates honor that you just can't find very easily these days and deserves customer loyalty.
I can wait

NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003
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14 March 2008, 04:00
CCMDocJust spoke with Ed about my rifle and his boar hunt. Ed was hoping PacNor pulls the button today so that they will have barrels sometime next week. I'm hoping that happens.
Sounds like he had a great time on his hunt - good food, great lodge and close to the airport. I am planning on taking my dad on this hunt for his 70th and Ed is working on something related to a big-bore (over .500) boar hunt.
Heading to Las Vegas for a conference next week and planning to grab dinner with Robgunmaker and talk BB guns.
So, all in all I am hoping I see my 600 before I get my bill from Uncle Sam on the 15th of April.
Man, I just re-read that - an aweful lot of "hoping" going on ...
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14 March 2008, 09:50
RobgunbuilderPaul- give me a call. I'm aavailable next week.-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!