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When attacked they are known to be dangerous and will charge-Hunters using stopping rifles must be capable of 4-6 rapid-fire shots in as little as 10-12 seconds


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Sounds like the perfect application for one of those 458 Win Mag Garand conversions.
 
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Or maybe the extended pinky 425 WR set up like this?



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RPG's but ammo is difficult to have delivered. UPS hits hard with RPG ammo surcharges.

Stay away from Taliban ammo. It tends to ignite before trigger pulls. Russian ammo lacks first strike ability. Acme, where Wiley Coyote stocked up on Roadrunner mortars, sells RPG ammo with ranges of 132.678 miles.

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On my last wooly mammoth hunt, which was on a game preserve located at Griffith Park LA, Apache helicopters were the weapon of choice. Of course, these were DNA reanimated woolies, which are more docile than the genetically pure version which are common at Venice Beach. They bunk with the homeless that line the street.

Most wooly excursions are booked by Paleontology Pursuits owned by Barry Minkow, who'll also book carpet cleaning services for your home while booking paleontology hunts.
 
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Of course, these were DNA reanimated woolies, which are more docile than the genetically pure version which are common at Venice Beach. They bunk with the homeless that line the street.


Are you sure that they aren't actually the homeless themselves? I've seen some there that would definitely smell and/or pass for a Wooly on my weirdo walks along the main sidewalk of Venice Beach. . . . . Big Grin Talk about another world. . . . rotflmo clap
 
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Quad 50s mounted on my dodge ram...should do the trick, no biggie! A Chief special 38 in a leg holster for back up!! (to shoot myself with if all goes south)


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The answer is obvious 6.5 creedmoor


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The answer is obvious 6.5 creedmoor


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The answer is obvious 6.5 creedmoor


But only if it's at least a 700 yard shot!
 
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A I'm thinking a
75mm recoiless rifle as a close stopping gun.


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Its not really that far fetched an idea given the closeness in genetics of Indian Elephant to wooly mammoths. Probably pretty much on a par with say Tigers in tropical jungles of Asia, to their cousins in Siberia. Put a Bengal tiger in Siberia its not going to do well and vice versa.

And bring back the large herbivores will help recreate the perma frost and former tundra grasslands - again not stupid ideas. Less that 200 years ago large herds of Bison and Musk Ox roamed North America, And Eurasian Bison and Aurochs the old world. In Germany the Heck Cattle are part of the way there recreating the Auroch, now need to get size and this has been done by selective breeding.

As for calibre - 416 Rigby, or 470 Nitro with the right bullet in the right place will fo the job.
 
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Yes, the Auroch was one heck of a big bovine. They had to have weighed well over 3,000 pounds.
 
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Bringing back extinct species raises the same concerns as introducing invasive species. Because that is what they would be, unless you also introduce the predators that existed at the time, and I don't think anyone really wants to go there.
 
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Forget this caliber nonsense, get in touch with your inner Neanderthal and use a fire hardened wooden spear! hilbily


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The answer is obvious 6.5 creedmoor


But only if it's at least a 700 yard shot!


And it's a Blaser!


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Forget this caliber nonsense, get in touch with your inner Neanderthal and use a fire hardened wooden spear!

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No mammoths on the loose here in Colorado. Am going out tomorrow to shoot my 500 Jeffery and Springfield V16 in 45 Super. Been awhile Not to late to find a hunt.


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Return of the mammoth?

I'd like to begin preparing for this hunt in the future and need to know what everyone believes are the minimum caliber requirements to take this trophy. I'm guessing 600 Overkill at the minimum, but 700 Nitro Express might also be suitable. Would have to be solids of course as I suspect penetration requirements will be on the order of 6-7 feet. Your thoughts Wink

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I've shot enough wooly mammoths in my sleep that I could probably shoot one in my sleep by now. I've always used .22 shorts. You let them get really close then SHOOT THEIR EYES OUT!
 
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I'm thinking something like a 20mm Anti Tank rifle.
 
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