I finally got some pictures of my pops 450 G&A but i don't know how to post them. I could email them to someone here to be posted. Thanks.

You can email them to me, I will be happy to post them for you.

saeed@emirates.net.ae

Saeed, thank you very much. Pics sent in three emails as they are large.

Ol Bull,

I have added your phots as requested.

Ol Bull,
Are you Jeff Cooper's son?
Is that rifle called "Baby?"
Very nice.
I thought it might be a highly reworked BRNO ZKK 602, but the scope bases and thumb cut are another customization or it is not a 602???

Please tell more about this 460 G&A rifle.
Thanks.

That sure is a nice piece of wood on your Dad's rifle. I really like the full forend on the stock along with the full butt end. It looks like it take the full size large recoil pad. It just looks like a big bore with the full forend. Have you had a chance to shoot the 460 GA? I would think the stock design on this rifle would handle recoil very well. Thanks to Saeed for putting up the pictures. That's one very nice rifle.
Take good care,
Dave

G O R E G O U S

Isn't the bottom rifle with the scope a different rifle? Is it also a 450 G&A?

......Yes ..Thank you Old Bull and Saeed ...Thats ,WOW ..!!! Is the cal the 450 GA or the 460 GA ...I was reading your chronograph results and it seems you were chroning some RUM stuff or something useing H1000 and RL 22 ??? ... Is that the scope you will hunt with ????? Again that is a beautiful rifle ...

First, thanks again Saeed.

RIP, it was built on a VZ24 that was double square bridged and heat treated. It has a three position safety, single set trigger and a four shot box. Barrel is a Kreiger with another recoil lug under the rear sight. Sights are from NECG. That was its first trip to the range. With 88gr of RL15 and a 500 Hornady we got 2390 fps and one biga$$ hole. I must say thou at 9 1/2lbs its a handfull.

The bottom pic is his 360 Imperial.

Both rifles were built by Dennis Erhardt and Jerome Glemm did the engraving.

gumboot458, its a 450 G&A. I was cronographing 300rum and 338 imperial as well. Thanks again

Beautiful rifle!

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Imperial cartridge line the ones developed by a Canadian fellow. I used to see him at the odd gun show if correct. His name escapes me at the moment but I'm sure around 2:00 am I will wake up with it.
Take good care,
Dave

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Originally posted by Ol Bull:

Beauty and function!! Excellent grain through the wrist!!

Wow, beautiful rifle! Not only a hitter but great looking as well. That wood is NICE!

John

Mbogo
Correctomondo... when was that sometime in the mid 80's?

Mbogo, you are right about him being from canada but i don't know his name. They are all great rounds and not to hard to make brass for. I use Norma 404 Jeffrey for all three of them. For my 350 G&H Improved i use 340 weatherby brass.

Ol Bull ;; how much real difference is there between the 35 G&H Magnum and the 358 Shooting Times Alaskan ??????

gumboot458, i think the STA is about 50 fps faster than my G&H Imp. Not enough for me to give up my G&H. It's an ol 350 Rigby that Dennis rechambered. It has xxx wood and a quarter rib with one standing. Very classic if i do say so myself.

Ol Bull ,, You got some COOL rifles ..

gumboot458, thank you. They were all a long time coming and we are very happy with them. I just took some more quick pics of them. I'll send them to Saeed and see if he'll post them.

.366torque, thanks buddy

JKS, thanks

Ol Bull,

Very very good looking rifle! What a piece of wood!

But I am confused about the name of the cartridge - what is a .450 G&A, as I can see the rifle is engraved? The .460 G&A was made by Tom Siatos in the '70's, made on the full length .404 Jeffery necked to .458 with the shoulder mooved foreward. He also made a 2,5" version.

What is tha .450 G&A?

Thanks!

I too want to know what a .450 G&A is????

Absolutely gorgeous piece of wood! Wow!

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Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
What is tha .450 G&A?

Thanks!

The 450 G&A is the 2.5" version of the 460 G&A.

The 450 G&A is a shortened 460 G&A to .458 Win Mag lenght, to fit in standard receiver but it gives 200 fps more than a .458 win Mag.

Gorgeus rifle Old Bull, that a was super rifle .

never had heard of that...

very much like the 458AR, however, the larger is larger in several critical areas...

and the AR is generally 300FPS faster.

Guys, the mystery Canadian is Aubry White. Great guy.

Great rifle!

Someone asked if that was Cooper's 'Baby'. Baby was a .460G&A and was built on a CZ ZKK 602.
Sorry if tis had been answered already...

I like the sound of the 2.5" .450...like the .458AE or Vincent short.

new_guy has it right. Norma 404J brass shortened to 2.5" and blow out to .458
As i said the first loads got 2390fps with no signs of pressure. Curiosity wants to see how fast it will push them but why? Besides, our shoulders say enough!

OK, my books says it was called .460 G&A Short, but you have the gun to proove them wrong! If that is not the prefect round for a M98, I don't know what is.

when I designed them, 404 brass was 2 bucks each, and rum brass was 54cents .... AR vs GA

Excellent rounds, and i bet you could use rum brass, in a big press, and well lubed cases, to make it.

WOW, you used 88gr of rl15? I haven't had good luck with rl15 in these, but h335 has certainly worked well in the ARs
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/...=159107957#159107957

I mean no offense by calling such a burly big bore dangerous game rifle pretty but by God that is one beautiful buffalo thumper! IIRC Jeff's Baby is much plainer so far as the wood goes. Whether you can shoot yours as well as his is a topic for another day. Wow!

nordrseta, none taken Thanks

Really a nice laid out stock, grain runs about perfect for a big bore..also a nice caliber, just a damn nice rifle..It ought to stomp a buff pretty good..Time to build yourself a standing bench rest however!

Thanks Ray, and you are right on the standing bench rest!!

That's just beautiful!!!!!!!!!

Stunning rifle!!! Congratulations.

Please excuse my drool.

A beautiful piece. Just wonderful. I'd sure be proud of that shooter.