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Straight from the box, Hawkeye Matte Stainless .416 Ruger "Alaskan" 20": Top to bottom: .395 Ruger Max: 24" in Ruger Tupperware stock, 7.75# .375 Ruger African: 23" in HS precision stock, 8.25# (7.75# in Ruger walnut "African" stock) .375 Ruger Alaskan: 20" in Ruger Canoe Paddle stock, 7.25# (8.25 pounds in Ruger-Hogue stock) .416 Ruger Alaskan: 20" in Ruger-Hogue stock, 8.0# Two stocks offered by Ruger with the Hawkeye African, 1.75# walnut, and Alaskan, 2.5# Hogue Rubberized: Three muzzle diameters: .375 African 23": ~.670" .375 Alaskan 20": ~.675" .416 Alaskan 20": ~.755" The .395 Ruger muzzle (24") in the middle is ~.700": Barrel diameters near the forend tip of the Hogue stock are similar for all three of the Ruger factory rifles: The .375 Ruger African 23": ~.805 The .375 Ruger Alaskan 20": ~.795" The .416 Ruger Alaskan 20": ~.810" (Not shown here, oops, the .395 Ruger Max diameter at the same location is ~.830", and that is a McGowen No.4 sporter) These Ruger factory barrels are all similar to no.4 taper, except that the .375s are more tapered (20" has a little more taper than the 23") and the .416 is less tapered. The .375 is a little lighter than a no.4 sporter, and the .416 is heavier, close to a no.5 sporter, lightened by shortening. Special Ruger contours! Rifle metal weight, removed from stocks: .375 African 23": 6.00# .375 Alaskan 20": 5.75# .416 Alaskan 20": 5.50# .395 Ruger Max 24": 6.25# Stock weights: Ruger-Hogue Rubberized, aluminum pillars: 2.5# HS Precision, full aluminum bedding block: 2.25# Ruger Walnut Hawkeye African, slim and trim: 1.75# Ruger Tupperware: 1.5# Ruger Canoe Paddle: 1.5# 1-Pound stock? Brown Precision? Rimrock? Mix and match and figure the dry weight. With a 1-Pound stock, the .416 Ruger would weigh 6.5# dry! Calling Will! Surely Will would want to turn the barrel down to make it balance better with the 1-pound stock. A 6.00 to 6.25-pound .416 Rigby equivalent? | ||
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<Mike McGuire> |
That top picture looks good. What a shame they don't have the big M70 recoil lug and if the front screw was vertical and placed in the middle of the bedding platform. | ||
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Nice work RIP!! Excellent reference material for those of us who aren't sure which way to go yet. How much barrel can be squeezed into the factory Hogue stock if a guy makes the .395 conversion. Fatter than the #4 sporter ..?? | |||
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Mike The top picture is the only one that was blurred, sorry, but it was the last one I snapped, as a hurried afterthought, and it will just have to do. Glad you don't mind. The combination of the 45-degree front action screw with the tiny primary recoil lug, well, it is like compensating errors, it shoots well despite itself! Those 45-degree pillars may be harvested from Hogue stocks with a hacksaw. | |||
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Macifej, The Hogue stock is not a precise metal to rubber fit. There is room for a standard No.4 sporter (McGowen, Douglas, etc.), without having to "sand the rubber." If you want to do a standard no.5 sporter you will have to "sand the rubber." But that is a hollow forend and just releiving along the edges with "sanding the rubber" should allow for a true no.5 sporter contour. Even the .416 Ruger is "free floating" in the Hogue forend tip. Standard No.4 sporter contour is a little bigger at that point. The .375 Ruger and .416 Ruger barrels are about the same there, a little smaller at the forend tip location than a standard No.4. ... they just taper differently from there out. | |||
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RIP... Would you be interested in selling me your Factory African stock?? MM MopaneMike | |||
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Does the Ruger Alaskan .416 truly come with a barrel band sling stud? Pictures on the Ruger website do not show a barrel band sling stud. Thanks. NorthGaAire | |||
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NorthGaAire, Yes it does. It is skinny and stainless and installed at the factory. The .375 Rugers did not have one. Would have been a nice touch on the African. At 8-pounds-even, in the Hogue stock with 20" barrel, The .416 Ruger is well balanced and handy. Should sell well in Alaska, eh? I'll bet the Hogue stock is more durable than a CZ fancy "black walnut" stock. MopaneMike: I intend to put pillars and extra crossbolt in that African stock, and glass bed it to the African metal. | |||
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This means you can rebore to a .458", .475" .500" or .510" 500 AccRel anyone? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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RIP, Thanks for the confirmation. I wish my Hawkeye African came with a barrel band. I checked the front sight to see if it would come off easily without requiring a re-blue - it would not. I have a 77 MK II laminate stock that might get a .416 Alaskan barrelled action - unless the African .416 that is supposedly coming soon looks really, really good. i.e. barrel band sling stud, better bedding, etc. NorthGaAire | |||
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Same here, I'd like to have a bb sling swivel on my 375 african. Can't see a way without refinishing the barrel, though. | |||
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You can get the two piece clamp-on barrel band swivels if you can't live w/o them. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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So making the big assumption that all the wood stocks weigh 1.75 lbs., a stumpy 416 w/said stock should weigh 7.25 lbs. That's pretty exciting. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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The first picture is the best. My 416 weights 10 LBS. I don't not know how my stock weights. If I was changing stocks then I would know. | |||
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